Pre-Plate Chiller Filter?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by telejunkie, Jul 29, 2015.

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Pre-plate chiller filtration?

  1. Hop Spider, bagged hops or other In-kettle screen

    7 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Kettle screen on outlet (hop blocker or hop stopper included)

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
  3. Grant or Hop Rocket

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  4. Other (please specify)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Mostly I have used some form of screen on the outlet such as a hop blocker or other screen device, but am looking for a more effective way to filter since I'm still get some clogging if doing multiple batches at one time. I do have a homemade hop spider, but don't actually like using it...but maybe it's just in my head. So decided it time to poll BAs on their preference and to see if there is anybody out there with some invention, build, that i maybe overlooking.
     
  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,819) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah

    I use a homemade hop spider, nylon paint strainer bags, and have been pleased. I think the hop oils/acid make the transfer to the wort with little to no problems. But never add more than two ounces per bag (just keep adding bags) and routinely give the hops a good stir during the boil/whirlpool. The hop debris that does manage to get through now has to run the bazooka gauntlet. Mr. Bazooka is pretty nasty looking at the end of transfer, so it definitely helps. That said, a little bit of hop debris still seems to find its way to the plate chiller. Oh yeah, hop extract for bittering helps minimize the problem.
     
  3. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    This is what I have been using the past 6 months:
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    Post Boil:
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    I have super clear beers and barley need to rinse my yeast cakes anymore. That is all pellets on a Saison, the IPA is even worse. I used to use all the other things, spiders, bags, tacos... never liked any of them. Not gonna do anything else now, this puppy is awesome! And easy to clean too.
     
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  4. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I'm guessing you use a pump? I tried without a pump a few years ago and couldn't drain more than 1/2 the kettle.
     
  5. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    @jbakajust1 how much wort gets left behind in the kettle? It doesn't get clogged?

    That's a girthy braid bro!
     
  6. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    I do use a pump and do a WP (that doesn't actually create a trub cone in the middle because of my chiller). Before I had a pump any draining of the kettle had to have a lot of height difference to get a good enough siphon.
     
  7. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    I leave about 1 gallon behind at the bottom. My pickup tube is a 1/2" SS elbow that points sideways. I got over trying to suck the kettle dry and adjusted my parameters to still get 11-11.5 gallons of wort in the fermentors. The braid is like 14" long, 1.5" across. No clogging at all.
     
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  8. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    jb...am I seeing correctly that you need to screw that braid in & out each brew?
     
  9. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Kinda. My elbow is MPT on the outer end, and I have a hex coupling in both ends of the braid, fastened with the worm clamp. The other end has a hex plug. After brewday I dump the hops and trub, give it all a rinse, then remove the braid. I only hand spin, no tools. The braid is easier to clean outside of the kettle, and ensures you get all the stuff underneath it. I remove the plug and run water through it while flexing it and it gets all the stuff rinsed inside and out. On brew day I bang it on the concrete floor a little to get any dried hop bits off and then attach it with a couple spins.
     
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  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I bag bittering addition and use a hop spider with a huge bag for late additions. Hop Rocket works really well, but limits use to additions before sanitizing recirc begins (~20 min). Cleaning hop bags is not my favorite past time, but they do prevent clogged chillers and cavitating pumps.
     
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  11. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    I saw OldSock's recent review on the hop rocket. Have been contemplating getting one just for filtering purposes...I didn't care much about the hop aspect...but just doesn't seem worth the $ for a filter. So also been contemplating building a grant.
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    As in Bert Grant? : )
     
  13. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    This works well for 20 gallons, towards the end I have to scrape it with my wand.

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  14. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Well I do roll around Vermont in my Rolls Royce with vanity plates "Real IPA" with an adjacent "b$tches" sticker next to it.
    Okay, so most know it as a hopback....not a grant. Duly noted...
     
  15. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    What is your dead space volume in that beast? For some reason dead space is even more abhorred by me than low extract efficiency...I need to maximize for some reason...
     
  16. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    This won't help but, I've never had a problem with doing a good whirlpool and using irish moss. Always leaves a nice compact cone of protein and hop matter. That and using hop extract for bittering cuts down on hop matter in the BK.
     
  17. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    I'm embarrassed to say, but in the end I do maximize my brew day by the volume I get to keep.
     
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  18. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Me too, but at 89% Mash Eff, I can stand to leave a little behind in the kettle.
     
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  19. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I'd pour that shit through a strainer into a 3 gallon bucket and save it for some starters!
     
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