Comment Pronunciation Guide

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by pjs234, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. pjs234

    pjs234 Jun 29, 2008 Connecticut

    I think it would be helpful if this site had a section with a pronunciation guide... Recently, I was traveling and was going to a bar that had Cantillon. I didn’t want to sound like an idiot by mispronouncing when I ordered, so I spent 30 minutes searching the BA forums for how to pronounce this, with mixed results. Then googled it and was able to find an audio file that had the proper pronunciation. I could have saved a bunch of time if there was a place on this site to find this.

    I figure that there are plenty of words that get slaughtered in the beer world (i.e., Cantillion, gueuze, Lagunitas) that could be included. This section could have the old school pronunciation re-spelling and an audio file of someone saying it correctly.

    Of course words with disputed pronunciations (i.e., Pliny) would be a separate discussion, although I suppose you could just have both options.
     
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  2. beerking

    beerking Mar 17, 2012 Illinois

    Would you mind posting the google audio file ?
     
  3. tectactoe

    tectactoe Mar 20, 2012 Michigan

    Weihenstephaner comes to mind. I usually just say it as fast and mumbly as I can. Hopefully the bartender understands what I'm trying to say. Otherwise I have to look like a tool and point to the menu.
     
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  4. kevanb

    kevanb Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    CAN - TEE - YAWN
    LAH - GOO - KNEE - TAS
    VINE - STEPH - AH - NER
    GOO - ZUH
     
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  5. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Oct 1, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    How is there dispute of the pronunciation of Pliny? That was a fairly common name. And it's well known how his(as in Elder and Younger) name was pronounced.
     
  6. Zach136

    Zach136 Jun 17, 2012 Georgia

    Great thread.

    Other requests:
    • De Dolle
    • Drie Fonteinen
    • Slaapmutske
    • Ommegang (How is the "gang" supposed to be pronounced)
     
  7. jbertsch

    jbertsch Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    Close...most people don't realize that the "steph" should be "SHteph". And personally, I actually say it like this..
    "VAI-IN-SHTEF-AH-NER"
     
  8. pjs234

    pjs234 Jun 29, 2008 Connecticut

    Thought I found one... I think what I actually found was a Youtube review of the beer, where the way the reviewed said it most closely resembled the pronunciation re-spelling... either way, a simple audio file with just the word in question shouldn't be that hard to do.

    Here is the video... not endorsing the people performing the review... just used it to hear Cantillon... see 0:54 second mark

     
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  9. pjs234

    pjs234 Jun 29, 2008 Connecticut

    Do a quick seach in the formums... there are quite a few threads on this one. Basically, it's whether it's a short "I", or a long "I"
     
  10. Siggy125

    Siggy125 Nov 10, 2006 California
    Beer Trader

    I think it's pronounced Gaius Plinius Secundus
     
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  11. kevanb

    kevanb Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader


    DEH - DOH - LUH

    OHM - MEH - GONG

    SLAH - PS - MOOT - SKUH

    3F has a lot of debate

    DREE - FON - TA - NAH

    DREE - FON - TAY - NEN
     
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  12. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Oct 1, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    Oh I see.. I didn't know people debated this actually. Well the philosopher Plinys name came from the Latin Plinius , which was pronounced Ply - nee -us. Even though I've heard the name with a short I. In reference to the Pliny The Elder. It's with a Long.
     
  13. IMSPEAKNOENGLISH

    IMSPEAKNOENGLISH Apr 24, 2012 Illinois

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  14. ZPag

    ZPag Dec 3, 2012 New York

    OHM MEH GANG is the pronunciation.I can guarantee you that is how they at the brewery pronounce it when they give their tours and tastings. It isn't gong.
     
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  15. AxesandAnchors

    AxesandAnchors Nov 21, 2012 Oregon

    I think this would make more sense if it was included on the breweries page rather than in a separate section of the site. I like the idea of showing the names phonetically, but the audio file may be a bit overkill. Good topic.
     
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  16. kevanb

    kevanb Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I'll take a stab at this one

    SHEE - AH - YOU
    EH - TEE - KETTA
    OH - RO

     
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  17. PatriotsRule

    PatriotsRule Sep 25, 2012 Massachusetts

    Can't wait to order a slaps moose kuh!
     
  18. thecheapies

    thecheapies Jan 11, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Aha! Try this for Cantillon!
     
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  19. hopswap1

    hopswap1 Apr 27, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    How about sucaba? Tried to order it at a bar and it took a while for the waitress to know what I was trying to order!
     
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  20. thecheapies

    thecheapies Jan 11, 2009 Pennsylvania

  21. zach60614

    zach60614 May 1, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Merriam-Webster disagrees: Pliny
     
  22. tai4ji2x

    tai4ji2x Aug 10, 2007 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    vinnie cilurzo should be pronounced VINE-EE-KILL-OOR-ZOH ;)
     
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  23. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Oct 1, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    True thats how its usually pronounced in English dictionaries. However Latin and English are different. I had to take Latin classes and it's always pronounced plY NEE.. However many times plinius is pronounced Plin EEE us...But i've never heard a latin teach or in documentaries pronounce it PLIN ee... guess just one of those things, that could go either..

    I'll continue to use PlY-nee though
     
  24. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Oct 1, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    SOO-KAH-buh ?? never thought about that.. I assumed thats what it was
     
  25. johnyb

    johnyb Aug 11, 2012 Florida
    Beer Trader

    Westvleteren....How you say ???
     
  26. BILF

    BILF Jan 9, 2010 Israel

    Fuggles?
     
  27. zach60614

    zach60614 May 1, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    My academic experience has been the exact opposite.
    I have never heard any professor say ply-nee.
     
  28. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Oct 1, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    maybe UCD let me down...there was a lot of beer drinking going on...and none of it craft
     
  29. tai4ji2x

    tai4ji2x Aug 10, 2007 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    most people today pronounce latin incorrectly. c.f. alumni, alumnae; caesar; veni, vidi, vici
     
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  30. Zach136

    Zach136 Jun 17, 2012 Georgia

    I believe it is:

    Nope I'm wrong, see below
     
  31. tectactoe

    tectactoe Mar 20, 2012 Michigan

    I've always said

    VEST - FLAY - TREN
     
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  32. tai4ji2x

    tai4ji2x Aug 10, 2007 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    west-VLAY-turren (last two syllables are almost turned into a single "-tren", and the "w" is not quite a "v" like in german, but not really an english "w" either.)
     
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  33. CaptainPiret

    CaptainPiret Oct 5, 2009 Luxembourg

    It's the latter pronunciation for 3F.
     
  34. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    RR calls it ply-nee. Thats what matters. They sell a baby onesie that says "Tiny Pliny" on it. Case closed.
     
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  35. henryspam

    henryspam Jan 14, 2009 California

    CAN-TEE-YAWN? FALSE.

    It's CAN-TEE-LEE-YAWN or CAN-TA-LOON, like looney tunes.
     
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  36. LeRose

    LeRose Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
    Subscriber

    So....we all pronounce things correctly and the server still goes WTF?
     
  37. henryspam

    henryspam Jan 14, 2009 California

    I remember back when I was in Buffalo, one time I was in the beer section at Wegmans and one random girl just said "did these guys just make an oh my god beer?"
     
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  38. GennyCreamAle

    GennyCreamAle Feb 25, 2009 New York

    Should be GOSE-UH, where GOSE rhymes with ROSE
     
  39. OregonHopmonster

    OregonHopmonster Jan 15, 2011 Oregon
    Beer Trader

    I though Gose was pronounced GOSE-UH. According to Michael Jackson the closest English approximation to Gueuze is to say the word "cursor" but starting with a "g", though I have never anyone pronounce it this way.
     
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  40. bradcochran1234

    bradcochran1234 Jan 22, 2011 Georgia

    How about Nogne?
    I've been told it is NUG - NE - YA
     
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