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Discussion in 'Southwest' started by icetrauma, Oct 9, 2012.
DF120 is not a great example. Apples and oranges, i.e. making that beer incorporates so much more than what a Pumpkin Stout does. Time, energy, overhead, ingredients, (much higher gravity and crap ton of hops!) - all of that adds up to higher cost to make and higher price to recover some profit. Pumpkinator was not an expensive beer to make, relatively speaking. So...to bring it back around, they're able to still make a profit at the current price point.
And if SA is happy at the current price point, and still turning a profit, why do people want it to be higher? Or, at least act like it needs to be pricier.
But if you ask the Brewer, it's "a pain in the ass to make".
Didn't watch the video but I read about having to clean around a 1000lbs of Japanese Pumpkins.
Well St. Arnold has so much time going on they probably can't have their tanks being filled up with one beer. Pumpkinator takes a bit longer to brew, they also got their winter warmer and their christmas ale, not to mention all the barrel aged stuff they are brewing now too. They brew their year round beers, they brew their octoberfest around same time, the summer pills also takes long for them to brew. It just may be a space availability thing. I'm sure they will continue to brew more every year. It's just that people hoard the stuff and the large amount of hype that people go out and buy it out in a day, compared to other seasonal releases that sit for a while...
According to our inventory, Gabriel's San Marcos now has Pumpkinator in stock. Looks like they only got two cases.
One bottle limit. At least yesterday. And I had to be escorted to the register :-/
Two cases for San Marcos? Weak sauce.
That store needs to clearance less wine/liquor and more beer. Clearance all the 90+ day old IPA!
Where are you getting such kooky ideas from? I'm pretty sure you're the only person that thinks beer should be more expensive. I haven't seen anywhere get "raided like a zombie apocalypse" and St Arnold has been posting on a regular basis via their Twitter account on where to find some. And it's not a seasonal beer, it's a limited release.
Has anyone seen big daddy j's in Houston?
I can see where he would say seasonal release with the addition of pumpkin and spices to a stout and, it comes out in October/Fall season. Agreed on all other points.
Whatever. It is what it is. Great beer. I'd easily pay more for this if that extends it's availability for a few weeks vs. 30 min and have the store limit and escort me. Just sayin.
Cantillon has a high bottle price and it doesn't sit on shelves, but that's some serious apples and oranges.
I kinda understand where you're coming from. I'd encourage you to start building some relationships with your beer guy/gals.. It can lead to some opportunities to get info before others, have some held without asking, etc. You take care of them (buy beer), they take care of you.
Beat you too it, here is my unofficial findings
DR9 especially when it was fresh wins the RIS mouthfeel easily, but currently aged DR9 and the 12 mouthfeel are like even, the 11 got the taste but is hard to consider it any kind of stout. I agree with ladyofmuchbeer the batch size of DR9 has to be nearly impossible to recreate on such a large scale.
For example, I bring food in for my beer guy and get my beer without having to beat the mob.
I agree on the thickness. Never had DR9 fresh, but I had some at the last Freetail bottle release and I thought it had the same mouthfeel as I remember the first batch of Pumpkinator.
Since Pumpkinator is flying off the shelves, I was worried about getting Bishops Barrel #1. I've decided that I'm not even going to try. Too much madness and not gonna be sold in bottle shops :-(
It's funny everyone didn't like DR12... I on the other hand love it - It's what really got me into this beer thing.
I thought bud light was what got most of us into the beer thing back in high school
First time I ever drank Bud Light, in high school, I drank about 6 by myself and I didn't get drunk I just peed a lot. I kept having to get up and pee and I didn't like that at all. Shiner is what got me into craft beer.
For me it was Coors Banquet, tasted better than all the other shit I had in college and became a bit of a fanboy. Original recipe left me figuring why they deviated from it to begin with. Once I knew beer could taste good I started branching out and here we are today.
I cant remember what got me into drinking. I remember drinking a lot of MD 2020. I remember chugging one in about 10 minutes downtown once at first Friday in SA. Worst experience ever. Fun though.
This area is greatly deprived of it.
coming soon from what I hear, but meh. I'll buy a 6 pack for nostalgia (went to school in PA) but that will be it.
There are negotiations underway, but nothing set in stone yet.
Yuengling, meh. It's the Shiner Bock of the east coast.
My waddling, pregnant wife was escorted to the register as well. But they were really nice about holding it for her when she called earlier in the day.
Yea with that you're comparing something that was probably brewed and bottled over a few weeks vs. something that takes a minimum of 3-4 years to be ready for sale.
HEB 1604 and Bandera still had 2 cases sitting on the floor as of last night with no limit. I was also able to try Pumpkinator yesterday at the Saucer and I retract my previous statement, I didn't like it. I guess I'll be sending out my bottles as extras. It was a cinnamon bomb and had a burnt aftertaste.
DR12 needs to age. Give it a year or 2.
Had a DR9 lately?....Pumpkinator is definitely worth having a case and getting to drink one every now and then. I only got 3, but if it had been in the budget, I could have handled a few more for the cellar, or to send off to good trade buddies....
SA just posted on Facebook that they are bottling Bishop next week. But from everything I've read/ heard finding it will be harder than getting Pumpkinator or DR.
Is this coming out in 6 packs like DR?
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I'm guessing singles since it is less volume then Pumpkinator. I wouldn't mind seeing singles in 12oz instead of 22oz bombers.
They didn't specify on Facebook just that is will be bottled early next week. So then should we expect it to be released the same week or are we looking at another week or two after that?
They've never released single 12 ounces, but yeah, for something like this, it would be nice. Comparable to Avery's Barrel Series or the Stone Collabs.