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Rank these Stouts

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by Finatic, Sep 29, 2012.

  1. FosterJM

    FosterJM Nov 16, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    BCBS
    Darkness
    Dark lord

    Listening to a lot of what people said. Add to list also

    Parabola
    Ivan
    Night Tripper
    Stone IRS
    Zhukovs
     
  2. xanok

    xanok Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
    Beer Trader

    I've only had BCBS and Dark Lord and BCBS is the better of the two and easier to obtain. Seems like a no-brainer.
    I hear 2012 DL is bad, so I'd stay away, although I think '10 and '11 are both excellent stouts.
     
  3. xanok

    xanok Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
    Beer Trader

    At what point was the OP asking about KBS and Parabola?
     
  4. TapeDeck

    TapeDeck Mar 31, 2011 Illinois

    I'd rate them:
    Darkness/BCBS about a tie (personal taste thing... I like Darkness plenty,) and then Dark Lord a distant 3rd, if we're talking about 2012 beer.

    While I don't think it's worth hunting for unless you're doing a vertical, if you were to find Dark Lord and Darkness from before 2011 (assuming it's well cellared,) that skews things. And the BADLs are also another consideration (though I haven't liked any of the 2012s I've had.) The two best Dark Lords I've had were 2011 Brandy and 2011 Brandy Vanilla Bean Dark Lord. And those were both leaps and bounds better than any BCBS I've had other than Rare. For my taste, they're right there with Rare. 2011 Darkness is good. So is 2012. 2011 Dark Lord is okay. 2012 has thus far been just undrinkable and weird. 07, 08, 09, and even 10 are entirely different from the next two years... they all taste different from each other as well.

    The best Darkness I've had was 08. The rest have are all pretty much a blur... but a happy blur.

    Remember, BCBS is not hard to get... it's desirable, but you don't want to over-pay. A lot like Pliny in that regard. The other two are a brewery release day beer and a mostly brewery release day beer. So they cost more in trade.

    I echo some other sentiments here that there are many beers available off the shelf, which I'd take over 2011/2012 Dark Lord... but that's not what you were asking.
     
  5. bismarksays

    bismarksays Dec 7, 2008 Iowa

    BCBS, DL, Darkness
     
  6. themind

    themind Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey

    Not to mention Dark Lord is way overrated!
     
  7. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    BCBS
    Abyss
    Ten Tidy

    Darkness







    DL.... Im hoping that it gets better with age, a long, long age to it.
     
  8. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    I popped my only BA Black Note on Friday, and it was very good, a little lighter in body and more carbonation than was expecting, but wish I had more. Then I had a BCBS right behind it, absolutely no contest, deeper flavor, much bigger body, it just blew it away.
     
  9. rzinna

    rzinna Feb 11, 2012 Florida

    BCBS
    Darkness
    Dark Lord

    You might want to try and get your hands on a CCB Hunaphu (might be tough though). Release date is March 9.
     
  10. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew May 29, 2011 Florida
    Beer Trader

    BCBS is good, Darklord is way too sweet, a syrupy molasses dominant mess. Its almost as if they bottle primed with molasses.. one of the worst Imperial Stouts I have had in a while I think. And haven't had Darkness.
     
  11. huskermike12

    huskermike12 Nov 14, 2011 Vermont

    100% A+
     
  12. Number45forever

    Number45forever Jan 6, 2012 Vermont
    Beer Trader

    Dark Lord sucks.

    Go after BCBS. Then, after you trade for BCBS, be prepared to trade for more BCBS. Then, trade again for the BCBS variants. Then, you can go after vintage BCBS. Then, you can cycle back around to fresh BCBS again.

    So on, so forth.
     
  13. chase2634

    chase2634 Nov 10, 2009 Pennsylvania

    This is the answer.
     
  14. CarolinaKevin

    CarolinaKevin Feb 28, 2010 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    1. BCBS (Fresh has always been best to me)
    2. Darkness (09 was the best ive had)
    3. Dark Lord (08 was the best ive had)
     
  15. Docrock

    Docrock Jan 21, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    What he said!!!

    Interesting that most are saying either BCBS or Darkness first, very few DL on top
     
  16. jakethesnake9z9z

    jakethesnake9z9z Mar 5, 2009 Wisconsin
    Beer Trader

    BCBS & Darkness > Diabetes
     
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