Refunds for 2015 Regular BCBS and 2015 Prop

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  1. Bartos

    Bartos Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2013 Florida

    I think there is a difference between dark fruit flavors that people use to describe stouts and a tart/sour cherry. I think of sweet and richness when I hear "dark fruits" rather than a sour or tart bite. Also, other people have described the infection as have a wine-like aroma or taste. And I "see" that based off my tastings. It is like a sour/bad wine flavor.
  2. BarrelAgedBarry

    BarrelAgedBarry Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Minnesota

    Same here. Especially since all of mine are 04NOV. Could it be as simple as improperly sanitized bottles or caps?
  3. phillyhops

    phillyhops Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 New Jersey

    Ive had a lot of the regular this year on tap and I don't personally get much dark fruit from it. BCBS (especially this year) to me has a deep roast, heavy caramel, and oak flavor with a rich sweetness at the end. When I think of dark fruit, I usually think of Russian imperial or something with European/Scandinavian influence (Garun Nr.19 is a good example). Although Id have to revisit past vintages, because I felt that this year was the most caramellic its been
  4. TomClem

    TomClem Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2012 Nebraska

    I recently had it on tap and the flavor was noticeably different than the bottles i've consumed regularly since black friday. There was a lot more caramel/brown surgar/molasses type sweetness than I get out of the bottles.
  5. phillyhops

    phillyhops Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 New Jersey

    That's interesting, ive yet to actually open one of my bottles so It might be cool to taste them side-by-side when I do
  6. meanmutt

    meanmutt Grand Pooh-Bah (3,327) Feb 6, 2012 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    I've stored my bottles in a closet in my basement which stays close to 65 degrees. No sign of infection in the one I'm drinking right now...

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  7. Steban

    Steban Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 North Carolina

    I just checked all the dates on my bottles and found 5 bottled on 10/21. I'm going to drink one tonight and report back.
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  8. jrnyc

    jrnyc Pooh-Bah (2,916) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Florida and 10/21 date, good luck! Report back!
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  9. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Pooh-Bah (1,995) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I've drank a handful of bottles from mine and haven't had any issues.
  10. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia

    I opened one last night and I don't know, it's starting to taste different than I would expect it to taste 6 months in. I have about 2cs left of '15 BCBS, I might just start opening them one a night for a few days and see what I find.

    I bought a lot of this beer because I like it, not because I like it "aged." No loss to me if consensus is "drink now" like they say with wines.
  11. Steban

    Steban Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 North Carolina

    10/21 1727
    Nasty Infected Mess.
    Smells like sour cherries. Taste is like tart cherries. No barrel taste. This hurts my stomach after a few sips. Its getting worse as it warms. F*ck you AB inBev
    I purchased a case at the TW in Jensen Beach. 5 are 10/21 date, 1 has no label at all, 6 are other dates.
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  12. jrnyc

    jrnyc Pooh-Bah (2,916) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Thats sucks. 10/21 and Florida seems to be the kiss of death.
  13. ninjembro

    ninjembro Initiate (0) Jun 17, 2014 Maryland

    Slight cherry tartness and a strange aroma.

    FWIW my cellaring conditions are literally my basement, on a bookshelf shielded from light
  14. Bartos

    Bartos Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2013 Florida

    I highly encourage you to call them and report the issue AND also send an email.
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  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    It would be interesting if the 6 with other dates have developed off flavors. If not that would suggest a bottling line problem.
  16. cosmicdebris

    cosmicdebris Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2008 Connecticut

    Having one now and no problems at all ...
  17. Steban

    Steban Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 North Carolina

    I called and reported it. I was told they don't know of any problems with regular right now but are looking into it. I also told them I had an infected prop and one that wasn't infected. I sure hope my 2 bottles of rare aren't infected.
    I will send an email.
  18. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia

    Would be hilarious if some holdover from before the InBev buyout didn't like the new bottles, and managed to infect select batches before filling. I'm picturing an evil laugh and a spray bottle with extremely potent madame rose yeast.
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  19. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,978) Aug 17, 2013 California
    Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    30 Oct 15 (14.3%) is just fine. Glad I have more of these.
  20. KUbeerfan

    KUbeerfan Crusader (478) Feb 9, 2014 Michigan

    04NOV15 1243

    Not the best year for BCBS but absolutely not infected
  21. Drucifer

    Drucifer Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Illinois

    A close friend of mine has also reported infections in the 10/22 batch. All of mine are 10/22 so I'm going to open one tonight. I've probably opened 4-5 already (assume all were 10/22) and all were delicious, but it has been a couple months since I last opened a bottle.
  22. ISpendTooMuchOnBeer

    ISpendTooMuchOnBeer Zealot (529) Oct 29, 2015 Illinois

    Can anybody account for all the facts? WTF is going on?

    Why were all barleywine and coffee bottles infected but some kegs were fine?
    Why are some regular bottles fine and others fair and others terrible?
    Why is regal unaffected thus far?
    Why did it take the infection longer to become noticeable in prop?
    Why are some props affected but not majority?
    Why did GI detect infection only in coffee/barleywine?
    I'm Rob Burgundy?
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  23. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina

    Very weary of all of this. :slight_frown:

  24. Ckoz

    Ckoz Savant (1,118) Feb 15, 2014 Michigan

    Just cracked a prop. Bought in Chicago on Black Friday. Had it in the fridge at 45 degrees since.


    Even had my wife try it without telling her what it was. She had prop before. She too said whatever it was that she was drinking was bad.
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  25. warmlager

    warmlager Zealot (741) Aug 16, 2009 Minnesota

    Was skeptical of all the possible infection talk until just now. Opened up a 04NOV15 1436. Immediately recognized it was infected from the smell. One sip was all I could handle. Super disappointing. May as well start opening the rest of my bottles...
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  26. ISpendTooMuchOnBeer

    ISpendTooMuchOnBeer Zealot (529) Oct 29, 2015 Illinois

    Not bad yet but definitely turning the corner.

    GI: just man the fuck up and admit it. It'll help. The monkey on the ol' shoulder is getting heavy.

  27. aasher

    aasher Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana

    I forwarded this thread to multiple people at Goose fwiw
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  28. aasher

    aasher Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana

    Wow, well done sir
  29. vette-ss

    vette-ss Zealot (661) Nov 5, 2014 Michigan

    Ron's brother??
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  30. ISpendTooMuchOnBeer

    ISpendTooMuchOnBeer Zealot (529) Oct 29, 2015 Illinois

    Hahahaha. Yah. God damn tiny letters and giant fingers.
  31. vette-ss

    vette-ss Zealot (661) Nov 5, 2014 Michigan

    I just figured it was too much lacto BCBS.
  32. aasher

    aasher Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana

    Have any certified BJCP judges or Cicerones personally had issues? I'm not doubting anyone at all, just wondered if those with a certain level of training have any input. I have a bottle in the fridge.
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  33. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,269) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Opened a BCBS '15 bottle about half hour ago or so. It's an Oct26 bottle which was stored at 54 degrees since Black Friday.

    Tastes just fine. No sour or metallic flavors what so ever. It's exactly as I remembered it from initial release: almost too sweet for me but still quite enjoyable.
  34. bluesfortheredsun

    bluesfortheredsun Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 California

    Just had a 30 Oct 15 1039 bottle here in the Bay Area - smelled sour and tasted like absolute horseshit.
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  35. hardysf

    hardysf Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2015 Michigan

    30sep15 drinking 13.7% drinking good. Have 7 left. Fingers crossed mine stay spot on.
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  36. jdominy

    jdominy Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2010 Georgia

    One of my (Florida) Black Friday bottles was definitely infected, super sour and metallic.
  37. lefty17

    lefty17 Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2015 Illinois

    You definitely need to be well trained to detect infection.
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  38. mxracercam

    mxracercam Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I'm sure they would recognize the infection before the beer even hit the glass.
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  39. kclifford

    kclifford Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2014 Illinois

    12 NOV 15 1010

    Delicious, as always. Purchased at Jewel in Lakeview (Chicago).
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  40. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Savant (1,029) Dec 6, 2010 California
    Society Trader

    I got 18 bottles with that stamp and abv and indeed they are tasting great with no sign of off flavors as of last night. I think we're good for the long run. :slight_smile:
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