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Ruined by Abner and Topper - what's similar?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by MrKsBeer, Apr 8, 2013.

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  1. celfan

    celfan Disciple (327) Jul 4, 2004 Vermont
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    Abrasive (although it's more grapefruity).. Double Sunshine...Kern Citra is up there in quality...but not really similar.

    then it's a big damn drop after that
  2. MrKsBeer

    MrKsBeer Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2009 Massachusetts

    You're missing the point. This thread is about exploring what's out there and expanding my 'beers I'd love to drink again' list, not about cutting out old favorites. Put simply, I found a beer that has a flavor I love, while others hint at it, this one nails it. I'd love to try more beers with that flavor at the forefront, which is why I have to ask you beer nerds to steer me in the right direction. It's all about the love baby!
  3. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Devotee (490) Jan 2, 2010 California
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    If there is a constant supply of Sucks around all is good.
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  4. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Devotee (484) Aug 21, 2012 New York
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    I am sorry you feel that way. I find Gandhi-bot similar to Heady. Guess my palate is "wrecked".
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  5. Flashy

    Flashy Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont

    Green Flash WC IPA.
  6. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    The Captain Lawrence Imperial IPA reminded me quite a bit of a more "refined" Heady Topper (for a lack of better word). Pretty damn good, though I haven't had Heady since December so who knows.
  7. Boilerfood

    Boilerfood Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2012 Indiana

    I had Heady, Ghandi-Bot, and Flower Power all fresh, all together. I thought Flower Power was the cream of the crop.
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  8. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    San Diego County.
  9. dar482

    dar482 Poo-Bah (3,476) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    Not even close. Did not have the floral and tropical notes at all.
  10. VTHopddicted

    VTHopddicted Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2013 Vermont

    Not sure if you can get it but Marshall Warf's Cant Dog is similar to Heady only with stronger malt profile.
  11. Flashy

    Flashy Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont

    Never looked at beer in such a manner- it's either bad, good or great. I actually remember the time we first saw the wine snobs showing up at events- sniffing their beers.
  12. dar482

    dar482 Poo-Bah (3,476) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    I guess you're completely ignorant to much aroma affects flavor.

    You might as well be drinking tonic water if it weren't aroma.
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  13. SawDog505

    SawDog505 Poo-Bah (2,581) Apr 9, 2010 New Hampshire
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    Those beers are on a level with Tiger and Lebron, but as long as you don't have them first you will still be happy. Fresh Double Jack is wonderful.
  14. RRtransvestification

    RRtransvestification Aspirant (271) Dec 21, 2012 New York
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    I recently made a trip to HF and out of all the brews I tried, I actually liked fresh Citra the best.​
  15. RRtransvestification

    RRtransvestification Aspirant (271) Dec 21, 2012 New York
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    Big reason why I love HF Citra
  16. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,417) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
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    Order Abrasive online.

    Also, HF Society & Solitude 6 was better than both of those IMHO.
  17. harperman69

    harperman69 Aspirant (234) Feb 11, 2009 Tennessee
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    Revolution Anti-Hero IPA. Good citrusy IPA without hype.

    Certainly deserves it though.
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  18. H0rnedFr0gs

    H0rnedFr0gs Disciple (300) Mar 12, 2012 Texas
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    What's similar is this topic on repeat.

    Pessimistic '12er knowing the search fuction is rarely if ever used.
  19. daysinthewake

    daysinthewake Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2010 California

    I wish I would get ruined.
  20. Flashy

    Flashy Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont

    If the aroma is great then that is part of a great beer, I agree, so wouldn't say that I am completely ignorant. So perhaps I am a beer lover or advocate and not a "Connoisseur" of beer- oh well.
  21. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    I had both Heady Topper and Surly Abrasive this past weekend and they're DAMN close.
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  22. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,466) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I feel your pain. Some decent DIPA's but nothing will scratch that itch with a beer you can walk into a a store in Mass and buy I don't believe. I'd settle for a once a month beer run to Waterbury until you hop threshold explodes, bring a friend and make a day of it. Waterbury isn't easy to get to, but from anywhere in Mass every now and then I'd do it, hell I do it from here with a stop at my dads in Pa. Even from Pa it's kinda reasonable, well maybe not but only a BA guys know. I'd supplement with Sucks if it's around, but it's not right now as well until they come out with the new packaging. Anything else you'd have to trade for and it's easier to make the drive.

    To answer your question only Abrasive is close to HT. Never had Abner but I had the Susan and my answer to that would be ZD.
  23. DmouthCaliBrewz

    DmouthCaliBrewz Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2013 New Hampshire

    IMHO mongo isn't as good
  24. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,466) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I like Mongo too, but Hopsickle is as good and available most anywhere, and neither are as good as HT or Abrasive. Recommendations of Cali brews won't do the guy any good, trading to Cal is an expensive hot mess, hence it makes more sense to drive to Waterbury every now and then. You can get Abrasive from france44 but at 15 bucks a 4 pack plus shipping he'd have to be independently wealthy to sustain that habit.
  25. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan
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    Assuming you live in Boston, as a large chunk of people from Massachusetts do, we're talking about a two and half to three hour drive up to Waterbury. Barre's even closer, though you'd have to call ahead. With a three case limit at the brewery (assuming you got there early enough on a Mon or Wed [that's when they sell the fresh stuff, right?]), you could easily be sitting on 72 HT to last you at least a few weeks. That wouldn't be so bad.

    Hill Farmstead is another half hour up the road, though Abner's not up right now.

    Idk, do you think it'd be worth it? For your two favorite IPAs in the world, both of which are great for trading, my vote is yes.
  26. jamvt

    jamvt Disciple (387) Aug 5, 2005 Massachusetts
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    i have to agree. i find mongo harsh and boozy.
  27. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,466) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I drive to see my son who's in FT Drum 2X a year. My dad lives 30 miles north of Philly, and I make the drive from there to Waterbury and we spend the night have a nice dinner, drink some good beer and bring some home. Then we go to NY. If I lived within 4 hours an every other month trip would be a no brainer.
  28. jmmy3

    jmmy3 Aspirant (292) Nov 30, 2010 Massachusetts

    He can't order alcohol online, state law. Or something.
  29. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    I say move to a another style.
  30. murdock_

    murdock_ Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2013 Massachusetts

    I Love Mayflower's IPA. Nice and grapefruity. They're in MA so not hard to find.

    I drink Mayflower at the British Beer Company.
  31. WeymouthMike

    WeymouthMike Devotee (455) Jun 22, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Doesn't sit in Massachusetts, usually sells out within a week period
  32. BeerRollups

    BeerRollups Initiate (155) Feb 21, 2013 Massachusetts

    I live in the Springfirld area and have been wanting to take a trip out there, but have been a little dubious since they can't do tastings right now. Which of their IPA's have you had? And which do you recommend?
  33. dougfur

    dougfur Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2011 New York

    Sorry, you're ruined. I've only had one other DIPA that I'd put on par with Abner and it's going to be even harder for you to get (Kern River Citra). Either start trading or try to forget how good it is... Or, maybe just try to enjoy the fact that not having it often will make it even more amazing when you do.
    Trying to find a match sounds like a fun challenge though...
  34. lhteacher

    lhteacher Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2013 Massachusetts

    I've had a few and they've all been great. I am a huge Heady Topper and Hill Farm fan and Tree House's IPAs are certainly in the same spirit. What would it be, a 45 minute dive? Go buy a 750 ml, take a slug in the car, and decide if you want more. Hopefully the taster thing will be straightened out before long. I've always thought they were overrated anyways...HF's are too cold to truly taste the beers IMHO. I was kidding about the Thursday thing, just trying to thin the herd. Hopefully they get big enough to stay open longer soon.
  35. DmouthCaliBrewz

    DmouthCaliBrewz Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2013 New Hampshire

    I had mongo in the past, and remembered enjoying it, but no life-changing revelations. I remember hop-15 being similar, but a bit less boozy and more balanced (but also hoppier if my memory serves me). Just had Mongo again the other day, following an Avery Maharaja, and frankly it totally got overshadowed.
  36. DmouthCaliBrewz

    DmouthCaliBrewz Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2013 New Hampshire

    This thread makes me realize how much of a lunatic I am for STILL not having tried either after 2 years of going to college less than 2 hours away.........

    .....west coast beer withdrawal syndrome
  37. Doc_Hops

    Doc_Hops Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2013 Pennsylvania

    have you tried firestone walker double jack? absolutely incredible! little bit light in the mouthfeel than HT or Abner but still has brilliant hop character
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  38. omniscientcause

    omniscientcause Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2010 District of Columbia

    check out tree house as a few have said/thread
  39. lhteacher

    lhteacher Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2013 Massachusetts

    Do you go to Dartmouth? The alchemist would be more like 45 min-one hour, I'd think. It's fairly safe to say that I'd probably have perished if it existed during my sentence up there.
  40. DmouthCaliBrewz

    DmouthCaliBrewz Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2013 New Hampshire

    Yeah I do. Thats great to hear, because I'm trying to put together a road trip with some select friends who are able to fathom a life beyond keystone.

    :slight_frown: I mean yeah keystone sucks, but those are some strong words.........
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