Sacred Profane Brewing Launching Summer 2022

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  1. Jbrews

    Jbrews (478) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire

    Thought it was right around then. Also about the time the masses joined the craft beer wave. Post flood and canned Topper infancy
     
  2. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi (2,103) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I find their use of "air" in their marketing statements to be disingenuous. Assuming the common usage of "air" as the atmospheric gas mix, then beer served with a normal CO2 (or Nitrogen blend) draft system is not exposed to "air" either.
     
  3. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi (2,103) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I posted a diagram of a bag-in-tank setup in this post. The beer would have to already be carbonated prior to going into the bag.
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    Versus in a normal Brite Tank, beer would be in contact with the inside of the stainless steel tank, and would be under pressure from C02 (not "air") to push the beer out either for kegging/packaging, or directly to an on-site tap setup.
     
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  4. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 (1,093) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    The quote below, from an earlier post, elaborates on the process a bit more



     
  5. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi (2,103) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, I understand how their system works. I just think their marketing is a classic strawman argument. It implies their system is better because the beer isn't exposed to air. But in a normal draft system, that isn't the case either. (Unless they are arguing against a traditional cask/beer engine system and not a modern CO2 draft system?)

    The LUKR bags (or connections) must allow some small amount of air ingress, or they wouldn't say the beer has to be drank within 10 days.
     
  6. Sheppard

    Sheppard (1,053) Mar 16, 2013 Massachusetts
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    RE: Hobo - I looked for the article but it seems to be deleted by Boston dot com?
     
  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ (916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Thanks, I remember your post. But this is really helpful.

    So is then the first “bag in a tank” set up in the US?
     
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  8. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ (916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyl...U556mPI2dzK/story.html?event=event12#comments

    Above is a link to a Globe article from this thread (see below):

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/lord-hobo-brewing-company-feedback-updates.207852/

    I hit a pay wall so couldn’t read it, but I think it might have the quotations in there. I started going through the first couple pages of that thread too but then got bored. Big 27 page thread.
     
  9. Jbrews

    Jbrews (478) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire

    I’ll hunt around my screenshots and see if I saved it. I believe it was(or was going to be) the verbiage on the label. I’ll get back to you.
     
  10. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi (2,103) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    It's the first system manufactured by Lukr installed in North America, by their acknowledgement. But a quick google search indicates there are other international manufacturers offering similar "bag in tank" systems, and there is an American manufacturer based out of Missouri called Paul Mueller that offers a system.

    They list a couple case studies: a brewery called Mad Mole Brewing in North Carolina that opened in 2018, and a brewery called Together We're Bitter in Ontario Canada that opened in 2014.

    So it looks like Sacred Profane is definitely not the first if you look beyond Lukr.
     
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  11. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 (1,093) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    Not stateside, but perhaps the most distinguished: Brief video that details the process

     
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  12. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington (1,189) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I don’t think this was answered: the 12 packs will be distributed to stores. IG post says retail store names to follow.
     
  13. LakesideBrewing

    LakesideBrewing (348) Dec 1, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I saw their beer at a restaurant over the weekend. It was up in the Norway/Paris, ME area. I was super excited to see it in the wild because I thought you could only get draft pours at the Tankpub. Without hesitation I ordered one! The bartender walked over to all the tap handles and started to draw off a pint into a shaker glass from a standard faucet. Foam for days; the poor bartender tried and tried and finally came back to me and said, “sorry that beer is not available right now.” Now, I normally don’t give a shit about proper glassware and draft etiquette, but I’m thinking that SP does. So, I guess I was just surprised to see their beer on tap without a Lukr Faucet and into a shaker pint glass. Are those the reasons the bartender was getting nothing but foam? Was this an anomaly? I had so many questions for the bartender but I didn’t want to come off like a know it all Beer Geek so I just ordered something else.

    I’m not trying to criticize anyone here, not SP or the restaurant. It’s merely an observation.
     
  14. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood (494) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)
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    From what I understand, there isn’t going to be a ton — if any — presence on tap (Novare likely the exception). I think it went out to whet the appetite a little bit but more so because cans were late to come in. In the future, it won’t be out in the wild even to the small degree it is now.

    As an avowed draft guy, I’m interested to see how it translates to cans because I found the beer incredibly quaffable on tap at the source.
     
  15. MattOC

    MattOC (435) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    That’s why I found it so strange that they sent it out to so many places. I get the excitement and spreading it around to whet the appetite, but a lot of those places are not going to have a LUKR faucet and isn’t that the point of their system-that’s where their beer is best. So if you have a shitty pour out and about and beer is usually it’s best on draft, that’s not going to make me want to necessarily seek out cans except for convenience.

    Again, I loved my time there, but unlikely I’d order those beers anywhere else unless it was from a LUKR/proper pour. I’m curious how they’ll translate to cans as well.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa (964) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Entirely up to you but you might want to reach out to the Notch folks and relate your experience. I would think they would want to be aware of this situation.

    Cheers!
     
  17. MattOC

    MattOC (435) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    They are talking about Sacred Profane in this experience, not Notch.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa (964) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Doh! Right you are!!

    Cheers!
     
  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ (916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Actually it’s funny Notch was mentioned. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen any of their Czech lagers out in the wild other than Notch Pils.

    I’ve recently seen Salem Lager and Festbier, but I don’t believe either is served via Lukr on site.
     
  20. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood (494) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)
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    I went with a 12-pack of Dark (choice mostly made because my wife likes dark beer), and after the damage we did to that last night, I’m bummed I didn’t just do both. The Pale might be my preference … until next time I go.

    Then popped into Tributary for a four pack of the altbier and a bottle of MtL. Tod convinced me for 4 oz of the Baltic Porter, but I was too rushed to give you a thumbs up or thumbs down.

    Back to SP, but I just can’t help being impressed by what’s happening there. Beautiful, custom-made brew house. Two well made beers. Just a lovely place to spend a couple hours. Again, I flew solo, but I’m excited to bring friends and eat food and stay a while
     
  21. wehaveamap

    wehaveamap (431) Jan 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, went last weekend for the first time (right after a Tributary stop haha) and I was also really impressed. Really nice space, didn’t hurt that it was 70 and they have the tables that are basically half outside.

    The dark was incredible, one of if not the best I’ve had and I ended up buying a 12 pack and having it elsewhere in Portland. I enjoyed the light, but I would be more hesitant to give it the instant best ranking. No shame in that of course.

    Do hope lunch happens at some point.
     
  22. Stormfield

    Stormfield (407) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Are they serving oysters? I remember some of the original social media imagery said "fresh oysters," "cold lager," and "warm hearts." I've looked at the online menu a couple times and haven't seen oysters. (Never doubted that cold lager and warn hearts would be available).
     
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  23. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington (1,189) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    Damn I didn’t think they had any MTL left so I skipped a stop at Tributary last weekend!
     
  24. DucRacer900

    DucRacer900 (283) Aug 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    They were not when I was there a few weeks ago. Was definitely looking forward to oysters and lagers, so hopefully next time.
     
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  25. Sheppard

    Sheppard (1,053) Mar 16, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Went to Sacred Profane yesterday. I feel like I had set expectation pretty high for their two beers and I can safely say they met and exceeded them. I think I was vibing a bit more with the Pale versus the Dark but both beers are so beautiful. I brought a 12 of both back. Their distributor happened to be there and some hubbub was made about going with a Budweiser distro, but I think the distro understands what they have in Sacred Profane. I am excited to see what Brienne, Mike, and their partners do with this place.
     
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  26. jamvt

    jamvt (355) Aug 5, 2005 Massachusetts
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    I think their investors are former AB folks. Also, National Distributing is still a great local company.
     
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  27. Stormfield

    Stormfield (407) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Are 12 packs out in the wild right now? I will be in Kittery this weekend and, if I am able, I’d like to find some SP.
     
  28. MattOC

    MattOC (435) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Last post about cans being in the wild was 11/12. I would message them on Instagram if you have it/use it. My experience is they are super responsive there and could maybe point you in the right direction for some cans other than at the tankpub.
     
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  29. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood (494) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)
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    @Stormfield second this. I believe I saw a place in Kittery on the list of places it was headed, but I would reach out via DM on instagram. They will respond and even if you have to drive a town or two north, it's worth it
     
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  30. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 (1,093) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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  31. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ (916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I’ve always thought Banded did lagers well. It would be awesome if this hit distro.

    I’ll be in Portland in January so here’s hoping this one is still kicking around.
     
  32. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood (494) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)
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    I think I’m going to give my Christmas Eve guests (or, at the very least, the guests who drink beer) the option of only Light or Dark beer, which means I must — twist of arm — head there tomorrow for a purchase.

    And if they don’t want that, there will be a Christmas Cocktail.
     
  33. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa (964) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If you have both the Pale and Dark a third option is a řezané pivo. I enjoyed the one I drank at the U Buldoka Pub in Prague:

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    Na Zdravi
     
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  34. Stormfield

    Stormfield (407) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    What time should we drop by? And what should we bring?
     
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  35. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood (494) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)
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    Milk pour with a shot of Allen’s coffee brandy (an Allan’s and Milk) for the win.
     
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  36. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ (916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Figgy pudding

    Like actual milk?
     
  37. Rug

    Rug (873) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Stopped by yet again on Sunday, what an awesome place. Just a quick stop in with my buddy before heading up to Allagash for a tour. Got a pour of Dark and split the poutine
     
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  38. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ (916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I plan on swinging through in January when I'm up in Portland. Pretty excited given the great reviews from all you lager heads.
     
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  39. floozbag54

    floozbag54 (194) Mar 25, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I’m headed to York tomorrow on an errand. Are the cans seeing distribution anywhere in the general York area?
     
  40. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington (1,189) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I got some in Wells (Tullys) in November.
     
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