Sam Adams 2020 Winter Classics; Includes Reworked Winter Lager

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  1. AccipiterofBeer

    AccipiterofBeer Disciple (314) Nov 28, 2016 New York

    I guess they're in a futzing mood at Boston Beer Co. First the Remastered Boston Lager, now this.

    https://www.samueladams.com/our-beers/limited-release/variety-pack/winter-classics-variety-pack

    Beers in the pack:
    Boston Lager, Sam 76, Winter Lager "Crisper and Brighter", Holiday White Ale (New), "American" IPA, Holiday Porter.

    deets on the Winter Lager. Doesn't sound too radical a difference. Will also be available in sixers and twelve packs.

    5.6% ABV, SRM 25, 22 IBUs

    Malt Varieties
    Samuel Adams two-row pale malt blend, Caramel 60, malted wheat, Carafa, and Munich 10

    Hops Varieties
    Hallertau Mittelfrueh & Spalt Spalter Noble hops

    Special Ingredients
    Cinnamon, ginger, & orange peel


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  2. ovaltine

    ovaltine Poo-Bah (3,324) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    A decade or so ago, I used to get a 6er of that during the holidays. May need to revisit it again this year.
     
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  3. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (661) Mar 28, 2009 California

    No fezziwig no care.
     
  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (11,278) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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  5. BeerDrinkinGuy

    BeerDrinkinGuy Initiate (69) Nov 2, 2018 Minnesota

    Thanks for posting I just came here to hear when this was coming out.
     
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  6. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (661) Mar 28, 2009 California

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  7. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (11,278) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Merry Maker was a surprise, since I'm not a fan of ginger anything. I had it on a cold snowy day, and it reminded me of my mother making gingerbread Christmas cookies when I was a kid.
     
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  8. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (2,584) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    It’s a winter pack why stuff in the Sam 76? Even the Lager is so common to make this a no buy, half the beers aren’t worth the money.
     
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  9. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,803) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Never had bottle shape scare me from a beer -- and I always liked the Bad Elf ales. Not show stoppers, but pretty nice English Ales.
     
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  10. dlcarst

    dlcarst Initiate (112) Aug 21, 2015 Missouri
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    Changing Boston Lager, no Fezziwig, no chocolate bock, no thanks.
     
  11. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,803) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    The BL in the pack is the "new" recipe? I thought they were only trying that out in certain areas.

    Even still, I'm with you -- adding BL (in any form) doesn't sell the pack for me.
     
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  12. dlcarst

    dlcarst Initiate (112) Aug 21, 2015 Missouri
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    I actually enjoy it in the variety packs, because it's a great beer but I don't ever want to buy a full sixer.
     
  13. AccipiterofBeer

    AccipiterofBeer Disciple (314) Nov 28, 2016 New York

    unclear. And I agree, this variety is underwhelming. No Fezzywig is a non-starter, really.
     
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  14. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,524) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    There's a new Boston Lager recipe too? Did I miss something?
     
  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,107) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  16. Tilley4

    Tilley4 Poo-Bah (2,274) Nov 13, 2007 Tennessee
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    Hard hard pass...Old Fezziwig is the backbone of this Sampler and to leave it out is a weak move...I like the Holiday Porter and the revamped BL but the Sam 76 and White Ale can go jump in the lake...the "American" IPA has no business in a Winter Sampler... I'm betting this is the worst selling sampler in recent memory... if you're not going to include the Fezziwig in the sampler, either put it out in sixers like we've been asking for years or ditch the sampler and blame it on Covid...

    SMH....
     
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  17. Bhoraski

    Bhoraski Initiate (15) Oct 29, 2020 Arizona

    I am so disappointed in Sam Adams recently. Old fezz is the best beer they make hands down. It was the only reason I bought the sampler pack previously, especially once they started adding 76. They have been downhill ever since they stopped making their Irish red a few years ago. So disappointing....... Sam Adams is rolling over in his grave
     
  18. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,647) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    More like his casket is drowning in seltzer...
     
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  19. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,107) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Looks like things are gonna get "Wicked" for Sam Adams next year.
    [​IMG]

    According to Beer Marketer's Insights Oct. 26 Digest:
     
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  20. jgido759

    jgido759 Disciple (307) Oct 7, 2014 New Jersey

    From what I have been hearing, Old Fezziwig will only be available at the Tap Houses in Boston & Cincinnati, although someone mentioned that it was available in a 4-pack of cans last year at the Tap House in Boston.
     
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  21. beaulabauve

    beaulabauve Disciple (394) Aug 5, 2011 Louisiana

    I’m happy their business is doing well with the seltzer and tea, but they really should be taking care of the consumers that made them by listening to us more, and giving us what we desire in beer.
     
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  22. thespaceman

    thespaceman Zealot (525) Oct 5, 2008 Connecticut

    No Old Fezzy? What is going on over at BBC? They better release it in some capacity nationally, wether in cans or bottles.. this is truly heartbreaking.

    I do love Holiday Porter but not enough to buy a 12 pack of this Winter Pack. 2020 sucks
     
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  23. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,647) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I see what you did there...
     
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  24. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,647) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    That was probably me.[​IMG]
     
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  25. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,524) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Bought a sixer today of winter lager. Disappointed. Isn't brighter or crisper as claimed. Just has less depth now. Watery even. I think this beer has gone through multiple recipe changes over the years and each is for the worse. This combined with removing Old Fezziwig from the winter mix pack and trying to mess with the BL recipe....not liking what Sam is doing recently on the beer front.
     
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  26. Kegmaster

    Kegmaster Initiate (10) Nov 20, 2020

    I agree! Been buying holiday pack every year since it came out for the sole purpose of having Fezziwig as my last beer on EVERY Christmas Eve! Bought multiple packs just to have more over the Holidays. This is devastating and will keep me from buying any Sam this season.
     
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  27. Kegmaster

    Kegmaster Initiate (10) Nov 20, 2020

    They have ruined a tradition spanning over a generation of celebrating the Holidays with Sam Adams packs that included Fezzi, Porter as main stays! I suffered through Cranberry lambic enough years to just have Fezziwig EVERY Christmas Eve since it came out. SHAME on you BBC.
     
  28. defunksta

    defunksta Champion (897) Jan 18, 2019 North Dakota
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    It's 2020, so I'm not surprised bad things are happening. The remastering of Boston Lager. The omission of Fezziwig. Let's get through this year and hope Fezziwig, the OG Boston Lager, and a healthy population return to restore great beer!
     
  29. Metalsnota

    Metalsnota Zealot (503) Feb 6, 2015 Minnesota

    The new recipe is bad. Sam Adam's has been directionless for half a decade now.
     
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  30. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,184) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Remember the old days when winter lager was supposed to be a riff on a bock? Sad times indeed.
     
  31. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,524) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    They still firmly claim it is one. Which makes it even sadder.
     
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  32. sefus12

    sefus12 Aspirant (224) Sep 7, 2006 Virginia

    Got the winter pack earlier this week. Not as good as years past by any means, but the Porter is solid, Winter Lager is solid (as long as you aren't comparing it to a traditional bock), the American IPA is solid (def WC but not bad), and BL is always solid.

    No, not anything I'd call stores to seek out, but it's not piss either. Sam 76 shouldn't be in there, but replace that beer with Fezzi or the Black Lager or something and it's a good, seasonal mixed pack from a brewery that isn't looking to draw in the craftiest beer nerds out there.
     
  33. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Savant (949) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    trash.

    just sent their FAQ email form this thread link.

    At least i’m up like 3000% on SAM stock. devil may care.
    :: shrugs ::

    Edit: i forgot I had already bitched once a week ago.
    fuck you Scott C. ya goddamn lizardperson

    doubleedit:
    I forgot how bad BA image linking was holy shit
    https://imgur.com/a/8DYae9j
     
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  34. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,647) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Are you surprised?

    These are the same people that called Cranberry Lambic a “lambic”.
     
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  35. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,524) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    You and me both. It's a complicated relationship isnt it?
     
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  36. premierpro

    premierpro Aspirant (260) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I'm on my second12 pack. I like everything in the box. A nice mix for people that like variety!
     
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  37. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Savant (949) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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  38. eldoctorador

    eldoctorador Champion (808) Dec 12, 2014 Chile

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  39. ESHBG

    ESHBG Disciple (342) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    What a terrible move. SA has been on social media for weeks saying no Old Fezzi this year, maybe next year, and then they pull this.
     
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  40. BruChef

    BruChef Initiate (173) Nov 8, 2009 New York

    At the time when it was first brewed, it was probably the closest American made version of a lambic there was :wink: . I remember drinking it when I was 13 and enjoying it because it didn’t taste too much like beer.
     
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