Say cheers to the 15 best beer cities around the world

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Shanex, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Shanex

    Shanex Meyvn (1,339) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    A pretty generic article from CNN, which is sort of « stating the obvious » but it’s good to read how craft beer is exploding throughout the world on their online outlet:

    https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/best-beer-cities/index.html

     
  2. stevepat

    stevepat Defender (693) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    pretty cool list, the only surprise to me was that they didn't shout out any west coast US city (although they did throw Victoria in there). I would probably have swapped Portland, OR for Portland, ME just to get the full spread of US options.
    Mostly cool to read about unexpected eurasian stops like Shanghai and the eastern Euro spots. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the golden age of global beer is inbound

    Edit to add: I was also surprised to see no south american cities on the list. I'm not super up to date on it but I've heard the Brazilian beer scene is exploding and have heard rumblings about Chile and Argentina
     
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  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,627) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    15 of the Best? That's debatable, but okay...

    But THE 15 Best? bwah! :rolling_eyes:
     
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  4. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (6,372) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Yeah, does seems a bit odd not to see San Diego, Portland or Seattle on the list. However, I got the impression the article was trying to focus on international destinations, which probably would come as a surprise to many readers (unlike PDX, San Diego, etc.).

    Personally, I was pleasantly surprised to see Shanghai listed in the article. I had no idea craft beer was so prevalent there, and now plan to visit some of the spots in the article when the wife and I visit in October.
     
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  5. hopsputin

    hopsputin Poo-Bah (1,839) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
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    I might add Prague & London to that list.
     
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  6. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Initiate (176) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
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  7. sharpski

    sharpski Meyvn (1,132) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    Curious which breweries per capita list they’re referencing that doesn’t have Portland or Bend, OR near the top also.
     
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  8. woodchipper

    woodchipper Meyvn (1,067) Oct 25, 2005 Connecticut
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    Yesterday I speed-read this just paging down looking at where they chose. Got the same impressions that have been stated above. For my part I will vouch for Asheville.
     
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  9. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,311) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I hate to fall into the stereotype of a nerd hating a list, but man, I can't resist. What a dumb list. They only pick Berlin for Germany as one of the "best beer cities" and mention three "craft" breweries there, one for IPA lovers owned by Americans. It's clear that the author is trying to concentrate on national capitals and "craft"... but by ignoring London they can't even get that right. They start out by stating "The craft beer scene has taken over almost every inch of the globe [...] put one of these brew-centric cities on your bucket list and grab your passport," so one immediately gets the impression that this list will be dumb, and they stick to their craft guns rather than focusing on native culture and history (which should be the actual focus for a travel list) except for Cantillon... which is the craft dude's exception to the rule anyway so it all works out. Change the title and it'll be fine.
     
  10. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,678) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Maybe BA could post a best beer cities list? I reckon that it would look a whole lot different.
     
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  11. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Meyvn (1,424) Jul 27, 2013 California
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    Uhhh, no Munich?

    Not only is the beer fantastic, but they invented & perfected the Biergarten
     
  12. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Meyvn (1,424) Jul 27, 2013 California
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    I go to Shanghai twice a year....I’m shocked to see it on the list (not in a good way)
     
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  13. Zorro

    Zorro Poo-Bah (4,439) Dec 25, 2003 California

    Nothing from California? Seems East Coast biased.
     
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  14. rgordon

    rgordon Savant (960) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    Berlin is insulting.
     
  15. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (429) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Just dumb. What’s wrong w the internet today.
     
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  16. rgordon

    rgordon Savant (960) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    Lists basically reduce our collective intelligence. They;re fun but they're wicked.....
     
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  17. Milktoast75

    Milktoast75 Devotee (453) Oct 27, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Lists are like beer reviews, only accurate when you agree with them. :wink:
     
  18. JHDStein

    JHDStein Initiate (58) Aug 16, 2013 Germany

    I can't comment on alot of the specific cities, since I haven't been to many of them...

    But I would say that picking Berlin as the "beer city" from Germany is (to put it nicely...) odd. It has neither the best craft breweries, nor the most historical/atmospheric places to drink German beer. However, if you approach it from the angle of perhaps having the best number of bars that serve different, independent, craft-type beers on tap, then maybe it is arguable, as they do have a fair number of bars with decent, far-ranging tap lists of "new" German breweries.

    And, as mentioned previously, regardless of your criteria, London has to be on this list. It has a number of really good breweries, and the bar scene (in the sense mentioned above) is so far better than Berlin that it is not worth the comparison.
     
  19. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (6,084) Sep 24, 2007 Northern Mariana Islands
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    Victoria? Lovely city with a couple nice breweries, but one of the top 15 beer cities in the world? No way. Hell it's not even one of the top 5 brewery cities on the Salish Sea.
     
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  20. VoxRationis

    VoxRationis Poo-Bah (1,688) Dec 11, 2016 New York
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    No Seattle or San Diego? Portland, Maine, not Oregon. Asheville, NC? No Munich or London? Berlin and Tokyo? I could go on, but I won't waste my time, I'll simply channel my inner New Yorker: Come on, give me a break! The list looks like it was composed by someone who has absolutely no idea what he or she is talking about and just wants to list a range of international destinations.
     
  21. CityofWind_brew

    CityofWind_brew Disciple (396) Jan 15, 2014 Illinois
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    I can only speak for the US cities on the list... but damn they didn’t even come close to getting those right
     
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  22. VABA

    VABA Poo-Bah (3,316) Aug 8, 2015 Virginia

    I have been to four of those cities, Brussels, Belgium, Portland, Maine, Grand Rapids, Michigan and Rome, Italy. I can not argue with Brussels. Portland is a great city, had some great beers there, but not sure I would list it as one of the top beer destinations (I passed it by on two other occasions when I was going on beer trips!) Grand Rapids is cool because of Founders, but other than that... Rome, really! (do they really drink anything other than wine!)

    Munich...
     
  23. stevepat

    stevepat Defender (693) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    If Founders is all you've done in GR you should go back and try again. There's lots of great beer there and, for about half the year, it's a beautiful setting as well
     
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  24. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,459) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Maybe I lead a secluded life, but I have never heard/read ANY hype about many of these cities, not even here on BA in the travel forums. The research by the writer leaves a lot to be desired. I hope they sold a lot of ads with the story, but I don't want them to get over-confident from that income to try this scam again.
     
  25. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Poo-Bah (2,090) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    Ya know, as far a lists of best beer go, none of these got anything on my hometown. After all, my hometown has me!

    Seriously, all these best of lists fail on individual subjectivity. At best, the lists just highlight opportunities.
     
  26. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Poo-Bah (1,745) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    Anymore I am sure most cities have a decent beer scene. :beers:
     
  27. rtrasr

    rtrasr Disciple (308) Feb 16, 2009 Arkansas

    No city from the UK or Ireland? No Munich? These lists are worthless to me.
     
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  28. jeebeel

    jeebeel Initiate (174) Jun 17, 2003 Texas

    Berlin instead of Bamberg or Munich? Absurd.
     
  29. stevepat

    stevepat Defender (693) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    but if you already know that Ireland, the UK, and Munich have great beer scenes isn't there value in having other possible places of interest pointed out to you? This sort of goes for everyone mad there's not some favorite city listed, obviously the title is misleading and clickbaity, but it read more like a list of emerging beer scenes.
     
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  30. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,098) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have had the pleasure of visiting both Portland, OR (for over a week) and more recently Portland, ME (for a few days) over the past 1+ year. Both are great destinations for a beercation.

    I posted a bit about my recent visit last week in New Beer Sunday. I entitled that post “A beer mecca – Portland, ME”.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-sunday-week-753.619834/#post-6577976

    One aspect that both Portlands have in common IMO is that you can just go for a walk and stop into a ‘random’ brewery’s taproom and feel assured that you will be served quality beer. This seems like a reasonable definition for a ‘best beer city” to me.

    Cheers!
     
  31. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Poo-Bah (6,987) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    First time I went there, the shops sell the usual, Berliner Kinder is everywhere and god forbid you want to find an actual real Berliner Weisse in Berlin.
     
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  32. rgordon

    rgordon Savant (960) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    It's Munich by default with Bamberg in the mix for sure.
     
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  33. lastmango

    lastmango Champion (800) Dec 11, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah . . . like what the Helles!
     
  34. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (6,084) Sep 24, 2007 Northern Mariana Islands
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    Asheville gets plenty of chatter around here.
     
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  35. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,459) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Yeah, and Asheville is the next American city on my list to visit for a pub crawl. And Philly will be on the same trip to drink some beer with @JackHorzempa, either before or after Asheville. Hopefully next year.
     
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  36. rgordon

    rgordon Savant (960) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    Except for Sierra Nevada down in Mills River Asheville is compact, easy to walk, with great food everywhere. If you want to add to the experience stay at The Haywood Park Hotel. It's like stepping into the 1920s. It's close to everything .
     
  37. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,459) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Thanks. I bookmarked the place.
     
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  38. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,098) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Why not both?

    I will homebrew a beer in your honor. You have one year to think about what is your preferred style (lagers need longer term planning vs. ales).

    Cheers!

    P.S. Make sure during your visit to Asheville you make plans to take the Sierra Nevada brewing tour (you should reserve your spots online). It is a 90 minute tour and worth every minute.
     
  39. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,451) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Looks like a goof location. It is near the Grove arcade, which has nice shops and architecture. That was built by the guy whole built the Grove Park Hotel, which is farther from the beer scene, but is very worth the time to get out there to see a Grand hotel in the Craftsman style.

    Edit Jack is correct, the SN brewery is a destination. You will appreciate the tour.
     
  40. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Champion (878) Jan 29, 2012 United Kingdom (England)
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    Melbourne? I'm sure things have changed in the ten years since I've been in Australia but jeepers, I bet the prices ain't.
     
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