Shelf life of Founder's Devil Dancer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Maxwell_James, Dec 29, 2012.

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  1. Maxwell_James

    Maxwell_James Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2012 Iowa

    I was shocked to just come across a Founder's Devil Dancer 4-pack at a local grocery store this late in the season with it only being brewed in June. I purchased it but am considering returning it because the date of bottling was listed as 05.24.2012. Is 6 months time too long for the beer to still retain it's full flavor and hoppiness? I would love to keep it but the steep price tag has me questioning whether or not it is worth the risk.
  2. slowbie

    slowbie Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2009 North Carolina

    If it was sold at a decent price I would keep it and drink it. It's not going to be as hoppy as it would be fresh, but it has enough of a malt backbone that I think it'd still be good.
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  3. thebigredone

    thebigredone Champion (812) Dec 19, 2011 Wisconsin
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    IMO, this beer tastes completely different fresh than with a few months on it. I'm not sure what it would taste like with six months on it, but I'd return. Then again, I strongly dislike this beer even when fresh.
  4. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (3,820) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    Caveat emptor its yours now
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  5. Phacoman

    Phacoman Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I got my first lot of this beer this year and I've heard it can age well. I got a half case and I drank 6 and saved 6 which I'll try sporadically to see what happens. If I were you, I'd have 1-2 now and then the others in 6 months and a year out just to see what happens.
  6. Crookdrain

    Crookdrain Aspirant (286) Jan 13, 2010 New York
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    There's a shit ton of Devil Dancer, KBS (well, 3 bottles at least in the back room) , and Old Curmudgeon still available by me in Brooklyn. Picked up the OC last night (brewed in May) and it tasted fine.
  7. FEUO

    FEUO Disciple (327) Jul 24, 2012 Ontario (Canada)

    With that high an ABV and IBUs it reminded me more of an american barleywine after half a year with the hop profile mellowing big time. I enjoy it fresh or aged. I may be one of the few who REALLY like Devil Dancer.
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  8. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,536) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I would guess an overly sweet malty mess by 6 months.
  9. Steimie

    Steimie Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2012 Michigan

    I'm not sure DD is worth the price when it's fresh, but it'd be interesting to try at this point. If you want to take it back due to it being "expired," go ahead and try. I'd tell you to take a hike if I was the retailer, but good luck to you.
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  10. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Disciple (351) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin
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    I had a 2010 90 minute once it still had a hop presence. It tasted like if you took a barley wine and an IPA and mixed them half and half. devil dancer is a triple so while the hops will fade it's not gonna be perceptible unless you have a fresh one to do a side by side.

    Edit: Ill take it off your hands if you don't want it I'd trade New Glarus for it.
  11. wvsabbath

    wvsabbath Meyvn (1,432) Apr 29, 2010 West Virginia
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    I had a 1 year old devil dancer and i actually liked it more then fresh, hops were still present but the malts came out a little more , and alot of the alcohol warmth died down, it was actually more balanced.
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  12. lotsaswigs

    lotsaswigs Initiate (153) Jan 24, 2006 Michigan

    This beer doesn't profile the hoppy goodness you might expect from your standard popular DIPA's out there anyways, so I wouldn't even think of it along the lines of a pliny, hopslam or whatever is always talked about fading away. Fresh it's boozey as all hell and just drips of resiny hops, not a flowery/fruity aromatic beer at all...I appreciate it for what it is either way, but my personal opinion is it's better with a little age anyways so I'd just give it a try. I've had bottles with several years of age and they were perfectly decent beers.
  13. hannont

    hannont Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2008 Oregon
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    I plan to try one that is five years old tonight :slight_smile:
  14. NickyDee21

    NickyDee21 Devotee (467) Dec 23, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Just drank one of mine today (haven't been home since the purchase). Still tasted like an IPA, but very malty. I'm assuming the hop character packs much more of a punch when it's fresh
  15. 4Socialanxiety

    4Socialanxiety Initiate (0) Apr 21, 2012 Tennessee

    I would keep it, like FEUO said with that high of a ABV and IBU's it will be fine maybe even better then fresh. Give it a go, I say!
  16. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Let's be honest, though it is labeled a Triple IPA, Devil Dancer is a barleywine in the american style.
    It's good fresh imo, but better with 6+ months of age imo.
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  17. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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    I think the fresh devil dancer is quite the shit show, just too hot, overwhelming and barely drinkable. So many better TIPAs and american barleywines out there.
    For the ABV, it should have a strong enough malt back bone, so when aged, theoretically, it will mellow out the hops and booze and get those rich and sweet malts to come foward.
    I'm a big fan of american barlywines, and hopefully time will make this beer less palate wrecking and something I can sip and enjoy. I'm aging some bottles for 2yrs. as an experiment. i haven't given up on this brew yet!
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  18. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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    how was it man?
  19. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Defender (614) Aug 10, 2010 New York
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    And you just left without ALL of the KBS???
  20. KevSal

    KevSal Savant (985) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    i had one with a year on it and loved it! the hops were surpringly present. good stuff
  21. Crookdrain

    Crookdrain Aspirant (286) Jan 13, 2010 New York
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    I bought myself a 4 pack. They're $10/bottle so I'm being economical here.
  22. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan
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    Honestly, DD is hot enough that I wouldn't feel bad about leaving it on a shelf for a year.
  23. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania


    Beer tends to be expensive here in PA, but $6-7/bottle or $20/4-pack is around what I'd pay.
    Sorry bro, DD isn't worth $10/bottle, fresh or aged.
  24. katje111

    katje111 Initiate (162) Dec 30, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    I have a couple of devil dancer left from about a year and a half ago. Just opened one up and its still very hoppy and tastes great.
  25. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan
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  26. Porkhustle

    Porkhustle Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012

    On my shelf, forever. A perfect example of American excess. A real dumb beer if you will
  27. DrDemento456

    DrDemento456 Poo-Bah (3,487) May 15, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Looking back at my review I might have gotten an older bottle since I noticed a not very strong hop presence and a candy like malt consistency.

    If you got the four pack aged for say 20 bucks I would say it would be worth it.
  28. Crookdrain

    Crookdrain Aspirant (286) Jan 13, 2010 New York
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    DD isn't $10. KBS is. I think DD is $5/bottle.
  29. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Now that makes sense.
  30. mcrago

    mcrago Aspirant (281) Oct 6, 2012 Indiana

    Can I buy the KBS from you?
  31. ItsLaTrappe

    ItsLaTrappe Initiate (0) May 15, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Some DD just popped up locally after sitting at some distributor somewhere, which was convenient since I had missed it fresh. Hadn't had it in a couple of years.
    Honestly taste's like a poor man's 120 Minute. Thumbs up!
  32. Crookdrain

    Crookdrain Aspirant (286) Jan 13, 2010 New York
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    We can do a trade, if you want. Message me and let's chat
  33. mathematizer

    mathematizer Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2006 Maine

    Anyone still have the 4pack box that devil dancer came in? I thought it said something about dancing with the devil... Being complex as hell... And good for years to come. The shelf life doesn't support that though... Hmm.
  34. BladeRunner

    BladeRunner Aspirant (210) Apr 4, 2007 Illinois
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    Just treat it like a Barleywine. It's got the malt and ABV to back it up.
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  35. BoneyardBrewer

    BoneyardBrewer Initiate (105) Apr 24, 2005 Michigan

    Its fantastic aged, at 3 or 4 years its phenomenal.
  36. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Disciple (335) Sep 14, 2011 Missouri

    Ages well but definitely a barleywine after a year.
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  37. harrymel

    harrymel Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2010 Washington

    Yup. Pretty standard operational procedure. Take that IPA and nurture it into a beautiful, unsuspecting barelywine. :wink:
  38. jhartley

    jhartley Poo-Bah (2,438) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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  39. Noelito76

    Noelito76 Defender (698) Oct 30, 2004 New York
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    This. Completely unbalanced once the hops fade out. Even if you think of this as a barleywine like many of us do, still too sweet and boozy. There are plenty still on the shelf around my way.
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