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Shipping in the cold

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by beerinmaine, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. beerinmaine

    beerinmaine Jun 20, 2009 Maine
    Subscriber

    Often asked: how cold is too cold? Practical example --

    It got colder quicker than I expected, so I had an inbound trade being delivered today. Overnight low was 0, high of 10, and 4 degrees when I got home. Box was sitting by the door, on the ground.

    Opened it up --- all OK. A couple of the 12oz, lower ABV bottles were beginning to get slushy/frozen in the neck, but all the other showed no sign of freezing and still plenty of room for expansion before busting off the cap. The slushy ones thawed within minutes in the 55 degree basement.

    I wouldn't recommend this - but if your beer does get caught out in the cold, probably no need for panic.
     
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  2. jmarsh123

    jmarsh123 Mar 31, 2010 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    In general I see to have been fine receiving packages anytime it's over 20 or so. Over Christmas, I had a package sitting on my porch for 5 days because I didn't know it was coming and it arrived the day I left. It was buried under a snow drift, but still fine.

    Bottom line as long as you get to the package within a few hours, it's probably ok although I'm still leery when temps fall around 0.
     
  3. Hanzo

    Hanzo Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

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  4. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    It's best to thaw any frozen bottles/cans in the fridge - thawing too quickly may cause the container to burst. Also: don't open it for a few days to give the CO2 time to go back into liquid suspension.w
     
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  5. willseph

    willseph Jan 31, 2011 Illinois

    Mr. Wizard over here...

    But seriously, the second point is great advice that is often overlooked.
     
  6. F2brewers

    F2brewers Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Moderator Fest Crew Subscriber Beer Trader

    Although the point is correct, technically, the CO2 is dissolved back into the beer forming a true solution; it is not suspended.

    From a chemist's point of view (nerd alert), a suspension of this nature requires the presence of solid material in the liquid *and* (typically) that the particles are large enough to fall out of suspension and cause the formation of sediment. I've yet to see that happen in any of my beer. ;)

    -Kevin.
     
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  7. moefriedman

    moefriedman Feb 15, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Here's my sad story: I totally wasn't thinking last week and yadda, yadda, yadda it hit single digits in Chicago. And 4 bottles of Cascade froze. 2 bottles literally cracked and other 2 froze and corks flew off so are somewhat salvageable(gotta drink them now)
     
  8. chase2634

    chase2634 Nov 10, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Temps here in PA hit single digits this week and three of my trades were postponed until next week when the temps get back in the steamy 30's. Not worth the risk imo.
     
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  9. MrVonzipper

    MrVonzipper May 9, 2011 California

    Holy shit it must suck living where you guys live!?! Single digits! Gotta love SoCal. :)
     
  10. youbrewidrink

    youbrewidrink Apr 9, 2009 Vermont
    Beer Trader

    It was zero here this morning and we all were celebrating that spring is coming.
     
  11. Chewbacca

    Chewbacca Jan 22, 2013 Antarctica

    You should see the weather on Hoth!
     
  12. MrVonzipper

    MrVonzipper May 9, 2011 California

    More like Coldth!!
     
  13. dachshunddude86

    dachshunddude86 Dec 21, 2012 Florida

    I had two bottles of homebrew freeze and shatter recently as I was trying to ship them to Colorado.
     
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