Side Project / Shared (2022)

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  1. stave000

    stave000 Initiate (40) Nov 5, 2019 Missouri

    I really don't remember a distinct char from 2021, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. At least having the three side by side (20-22) as of this year the 2022 stood out for the smoky flavor. It could also be a difference in char from barrel versus smoked malt like flavor, what I get from this year's is more reminiscent of smoked malt (though I know there is none in there), though not in a true smoked beer sense just lightly as it rounded out the flavor. My tasting notes for 2021 were always dark stone fruit, but I've had others in my group disagree with me on that so maybe I'm odd.
     
  2. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    i agree that 2021 had dark fruit flavors in it. it’s the only vintage i can’t say that about and i’ve had them all.
     
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  3. smalony

    smalony Initiate (95) Apr 19, 2020 Missouri
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    CdC #10 is up on the web shop. $40/750ml.

    Far Afield also added. $20/750ml

    ...and then CdC #11 was added and removed. It was never available. (Edit: Now it's back.)

    And lastly, 375s of La Belle Fleur are live. $15 ea.
     
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  4. MattOC

    MattOC Crusader (701) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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  5. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    and cory said he would never do fruit in stouts. what a liar!!
     
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  6. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Savant (957) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    A stout with peach and passion fruit caused me to have violent diarrhea, right there on the spot.
     
  7. jmlhd7

    jmlhd7 Initiate (120) Dec 22, 2014 Missouri
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    Another week without coffee shop vibes. Sad day.
     
  8. KUbeerfan

    KUbeerfan Initiate (74) Feb 9, 2014 Missouri
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    More DB derivation coming next week. Gold wax.

    brandy then… port again.
     
  9. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Savant (957) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    To recap:

    • Green was Bourbon --> Mizurna
    • Purple is Bourbon --> Port
    • Gold is Brandy --> Port (Not sure where this was posted. I can't seem to find it.)
    • Red ???

    I had hoped that color might correlate to the 2nd barrel, but it doesn't seem to be the case. I was hoping that would be the case, because then Red would mean something fancy like WLW, PVW20, VWFRR. -Which, in part at least would make a lot of sense for being released last. Build up the anticipation. Red isn't a super common color associated with specific high end offerings - unless I am just blanking on others.

    Side note: Saw a review on untappd for the port that said, "very not bad. 4.5"
     
  10. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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  11. MattOC

    MattOC Crusader (701) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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  12. Heisenbrew

    Heisenbrew Aspirant (240) Aug 21, 2016 Missouri
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    Since it seems to be a concern: I haven’t had it
     
  13. bread_c

    bread_c Initiate (144) Feb 19, 2015 Illinois
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    There's already been a red one in the 2022 DBD released earlier in the year for stout week and it was Bourbon Port so I wouldn't read too much into the wax color vs. barrels used.
     
  14. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Initiate (110) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    Maker’s Mark has the trademark for red wax on bourbon if not whiskey.

    https://www.drinkhacker.com/2012/05...ed-trademark-protection-for-red-dripping-wax/
     
  15. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Savant (957) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    How I forgot Maker's is beyond me. If you're a fellow bourbonite, you may be aware of the "Slam dunk" bottles. Even if the classic wax didn't resonate, I would have thought thinking of those slam dunk bottles would have.

    Side comment: A few years ago, I believe they said they no longer allow consumers to do slam dunk's when they visit the distillery.
     
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  16. Heisenbrew

    Heisenbrew Aspirant (240) Aug 21, 2016 Missouri
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    "Holiday Parfait" coming soon
     
  17. SlickRickBobby

    SlickRickBobby Initiate (20) Apr 22, 2021
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    First beer with chestnuts.
     
  18. jmlhd7

    jmlhd7 Initiate (120) Dec 22, 2014 Missouri
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    Assuming this is a joke?
     
  19. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    yeah, i looked all over for info on this and didn’t see anything..
     
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  20. Heisenbrew

    Heisenbrew Aspirant (240) Aug 21, 2016 Missouri
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    No, it was written on the cooler at the brewery.
     
  21. Coraciiformes

    Coraciiformes Initiate (29) Jun 1, 2019 Illinois
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    Egg nog vibes
     
  22. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    SdF b6 bottled and labeled. #LetsGo
     
  23. flat_lander

    flat_lander Meyvn (1,009) May 11, 2016 Illinois
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    Is this where people fully submerged their bottle or something? I can tell you they weren't allowing that in Nov. '21 when I was there. It was all pretty controlled, including gloves, an apron, goggles, etc.
     
  24. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Savant (957) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Close! The Slam Dunk was the term for submersing the entire neck and maybe 1/4 to 3/4 inch of the body instead of just the top of the bottle (ie the normal).

    For years it was considered special when you’d find one in the wild. They were rarely done, but eagle-eyed bourbonites would keep an eye out for them. Surely they weren’t special beyond the look, but it seemed to make people feel like the juice was more special. Similarly, there’s a sort of “cult following” among bourbonites on SB that look for “Sara” SP bottles of Smooth Ambler. What exactly is a Sara bottle? It’s the name of one of the people labeling bottles that day, and their name is on the back. People will look and sometimes only buy if there is a Sara.
     
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  25. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (10,585) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    JFC.
     
  26. Affinity

    Affinity Aspirant (267) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    On the topic of wax, I wish Side Project waxed more of their non-fruited saisons.

    I love to see how age changes these bottles and the wax would add another layer of defense against oxidation. Saison du Fermier is a great example of something that would benefit from being waxed for those of us planning to cellar it. I know early Saison du Fermier & Merci were waxed, but later vintages did not get the wax treatment. Oude du Ble was not waxed, but then became waxed. Some CDC are waxed and some not. I know cost and time probably play a role so it doesn't make sense to wax every white label, etc. But I would put Saison du Fermier and some of the unblended/blended series up there with Oude Fermier, Tete de Cuvee, and Oude du Ble as beers that would be great to cellar and preserve with an extra layer of defense.

    I have started putting electrical tape around the bottles I plan to sit on like pH1, Scribe, and Sunsets, but the tape treatment is not worthy of the caliber of beer.

    Lambic is a great example of how a non-fruited beer can become something special 10-20 years later and the corks do a lot more to keep oxidation at bay in my experience. I'm sure there is a 5-page thread somewhere on this forum arguing about caps vs caps with wax vs corks vs cork and cage; please point me to it if there is evidence that a cap without wax is as good as the others. Until then, hoping for some waxed non-fruited saisons!!
     
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  27. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Savant (957) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    You can buy your own wax and wax your own bottles. If you need a link, just let me know.

    Anything that slows the influx of oxygen is going to be in your benefit. Taping the caps is sure to help vs. not. Wax (as long as you do it correctly and don't overheat the wax, which can sometimes loosen the cap) *should* prove a slightly better barrier. Among all the discussions over the years, I don't think I've ever seen anything definitive on wax vs. tape. However, there are some pretty interesting threads on temperature and how long you can leave beer outside before it freezes based on ABV, container and volume. Particularly relevant for trades this time of year.
     
  28. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    i would take the caps with the nipple and no wax. i think those things work wonders.

    i get most white labels aren’t going to be waxed as they make an almost yearly appearance but i also think that white label SdF does not fall into this category. hell, SdF pinot gets released more frequently than white label.
     
  29. Affinity

    Affinity Aspirant (267) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    Curious about the cost of a waxing kit. If you have a link, that would be great. In all honesty, I probably won't pursue it because I already spend too much time on this hobby and the last thing I need my wife to see is me spending extra time waxing the bottles I didn't need to buy, but it may be helpful to others. Thanks!
    100% agree, SdF is special. Along with SdF pinot I put it up there with Tete, Oude Fermier, and the Unblended saisons. That's why I started thinking about this because I don't remember the last couple SdF being waxed & SdF pinot was never waxed.
     
  30. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    funny thing, for me anyways, is white label SdF isn’t even all that great without a year and a half to 2 years on it. then i can’t get enough of it.
     
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  31. Heisenbrew

    Heisenbrew Aspirant (240) Aug 21, 2016 Missouri
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    *Remembers when SP said every beer aged for longer than a year was going to be waxed*
     
  32. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    can’t you make this happen??

    and make it six months of aging or more while you’re at it.
     
  33. Heisenbrew

    Heisenbrew Aspirant (240) Aug 21, 2016 Missouri
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    Every liquid will be waxed.



    Even the water cups.
     
  34. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Poo-Bah (4,591) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    don’t forget the shared cans
     
  35. flat_lander

    flat_lander Meyvn (1,009) May 11, 2016 Illinois
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    You'd think these dudes would be exhausted looking for all this shit. And yet, here we are.
     
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  36. smalony

    smalony Initiate (95) Apr 19, 2020 Missouri
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    Fuzzy and Sea Ponies are up in the webshop.
     
  37. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Savant (957) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    This is the company that I have always purchased from.

    https://etchedimages.com/services/bottle-dipping-wax/

    I would buy the wax and the tape. You can buy the non-stick fryer for melting wax online for cheaper. I can point you in the right direction if their website isn't informative enough about anything. Wax will last a good bit, but you need more than you think of it, particularly due to the size of the melting pot. It doesn't "go bad," so there's no real harm in "over buying". I personally have 3 different colors of wax that I use for different reasons.

    Pro-Tip: Buy decorative tags/twine on amazon to make your own neck tags to label the years. If you have all your bottles lying down (I feel like you posted a shot of your cellar once), you could also write the variety on the tag to make it easy to identify the bottle without having to pull it out. I use these on my whiskey bottles so that I don't have to ever worry about the laser code (assuming there is one) rubbing off and not knowing what year I have. Alternatively, you can use those tags to also identify when you opened the bottle to help yourself keep track so that you know when you might want to try to finish the bottle. If you want to do both, write the year/distinguishing features on the "front", and the date opened on the "back".

    The black tags look very attractive with information using metallic sharpies. If you buy the mix pack, you can use copper/silver/gold for different "echelons" of bottles. Not that I'd do something like that myself or anything...
     
  38. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Savant (957) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Too late to edit: If you're going to "invest" in this (it's not exactly cost prohibitive, but it is a nuisance), you rally should invest in the non-stick fryer for melting. It not only melts the wax efficiently, but keeps it from getting too-hot (if you follow guidance), and it keeps it at the optimal temperature. The first time I did this about 6 years ago, I went the ghetto route of melting it in my oven with a pyrex dish. I'm a bit of a miser sometimes, and it just felt unnecessary to buy the pot.

    Well...that was silly, and a waste of time. Don't make that mistake.
     
  39. Coraciiformes

    Coraciiformes Initiate (29) Jun 1, 2019 Illinois
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    Shared Fra-Gee-Lay

    Our Holiday Parfait! We took Parfait - Blend of Barrel Aged and Oak Aged Imperial Stouts - then finished this blend on Ghana Cocoa Nibs, Vanilla Beans, Nutmeg, and Fresh Ground Cinnamon.

    12.0% ABV - 5oz - $9
     
  40. not2quick

    not2quick Meyvn (1,102) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
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    Would love to see this hit cask.
     
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