Sierra Nevada 2020 Oktoberfest

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by beeragent, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,234) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I think the entire orange thing started with me in this thread and I feel guilty that it snowballed to the extent that it did.
     
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  2. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,797) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    At least you proved to me that I wasn't *completely* crazy. :slight_smile:
     
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  3. Genuine

    Genuine Devotee (457) May 7, 2009 Connecticut

    So, I finally had 3 bottles of their Oktoberfest this weekend. The beginning has a strong resemblance of an Oktoberfest however the finishing character really reminds me of summerfest. It's great, clear, crisp and refreshing. Just a bit different than normal. Maybe more towards a festbier rather an Oktoberfest.
     
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  4. ecpho

    ecpho Aspirant (259) Mar 28, 2011 New York

    I have a hard time finding this orange flavor after all of this talk. I will keep trying though.
     
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  5. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,797) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    It's not huge, just out of place.
     
  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,582) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Eh I think you just hit on a perfect descriptor for one flavor that is present in this beer and is uncommon. It's not like the beer tastes like orange juice (probably would sell more if it did, might have make okto the hot style:rolling_eyes:). But, especially as it warms up, there's a flavor on the back end that definitely reminds me of marmalade
     
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  7. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,797) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Don't forget, there's professional confirmation direct from the source:
     
  8. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,630) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I had my third or fourth bottle last night and this was the first in which I was really trying to cue in on that orange flavor.

    It was definitely noticeable, but I agree, if it hadn’t been mentioned I’m not sure I would have noticed it.

    I started to think, “Hmm, I’m kind of getting a Summerfest type feel while I drink this. I wonder if I was looking for the Spalter Select in Summerfest if I’d pick up on it now”.

    I’ve always found Summerfest to be a tad unique for a Pils. Definitely a Pilsner, but there’s a certain something about the character that just draws me in.

    I’ve felt that way with their Oktoberfest this year. It doesn’t really fit neatly into a style, instead it’s just a damn good beer. Maybe the orange from the Spalter Select is something I really dig in a lager.
     
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  9. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,234) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    OK. I just saw how many were fixating on this thing and looking for it... and I felt like it could be compromising their enjoyment or getting in the way of their own take.

    Good luck with that. You did mention citrus a ways back, so hopefully I can shift the blame to you. Unfortunately that takes us back into the "what is citrus" minefield again. It's never easy on BA. :wink::grin::beers:
     
  10. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,797) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    We can pile it all on Mike Palmer. :slight_smile:
     
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  11. Tilley4

    Tilley4 Poo-Bah (2,267) Nov 13, 2007 Tennessee
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    Same.... enjoying it more and more
     
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  12. Crusader

    Crusader Disciple (333) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden

    Even Sierra Nevada seems to have been influenced by your post:

    “There’s nuance to this beer–some floral and spice, as well as a unique orange zest flavor from the German hops that hits right in the middle of your palate,” said Sierra Nevada Lead Pilot Brewer Michael Palmer."

    :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  13. SudsDoctor

    SudsDoctor Disciple (354) Nov 23, 2008 New York

    Did they use Mandarina Bavaria in the hop bill? :wink:
     
  14. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,797) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Well, I guess I can take this to mean that you have me on ignore -- I posted that quote in post #367, just above. :rolling_eyes:

    But I think he was quoted long before our discussions.
     
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  15. defunksta

    defunksta Champion (892) Jan 18, 2019 North Dakota
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    I tried this one again to reexamine another time. It is again very similar to the SN Pale Ale. The same marmalade orange and soapy pine flavors classic for Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Freshness may be an issue. Still not getting much, if any, festbier flavors here.
     
  16. CB_Michigan

    CB_Michigan Initiate (197) Sep 4, 2014 Illinois

    Finally had one of these last night. It wasn't bad, but I don't think I'll be getting any more. If I didn't know what it was, I would have guessed "hoppy lager" but don't know that I would ever have guessed "Oktoberfest." For me, the orange flavor was immediately obvious, but it wasn't like juice. "Orange hard candy" is how I described it but it also reminded me of orange liqueur. Definitely not something I perceive in most SN beers.
     
  17. EmperorBatman

    EmperorBatman Initiate (131) Mar 16, 2018 District of Columbia

    Finally found and giving it a try.
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    To me it tastes like a charged-up Summerfest. Similar hop profile with some slightly toastier malt and a stronger booze backbone. Good lager, but not the traditional taste I normally seek this season.
     
  18. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Disciple (361) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    Finished off the 12 pack I bought. After liking it initially, I slowed down on drinking it. Past versions of this beer were mostly drank quickly with more purchases immediately after running out. This year it took me a while to get through the 12 pack I bought. It's good enough for whatever it is. The more I drank though, the more it didn't satisfy my Oktoberfest craving. I don't see myself buying more this year.
     
  19. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,396) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I bought a fresh 6pack, bottled September 4th and I was disappointed. I reckon that the previous years' collaborations fit my palate to a greater degree.
     
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  20. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,797) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Surprising that they were still bottling that late.
     
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  21. ESHBG

    ESHBG Disciple (342) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I had a fresh bottle of this again recently, my second bottle of the season. Not sure if it was because I have been drinking regular Oktoberfest beers or what but the flavors really clashed on my palate and by the end of it I definitely did not want another. My take here is that they tried to make a hoppy almost Pale Ale-ish version of the style and I didn't care for it, probably one of my least favorites of theirs since they started doing an Oktoberfest beer.
     
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  22. jkrich

    jkrich Meyvn (1,294) Nov 1, 2001 Florida
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    There are a lot of different viewpoints on this one. I happen to enjoy the unique flavor of this American Oktoberfest - I detect flavors of rye and pumpernickel that you don't often experience with others of the style.
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  23. ecpho

    ecpho Aspirant (259) Mar 28, 2011 New York

    I bought a 2nd 12 pack and I can report that it's still a fine beer.
     
  24. chimneyjim

    chimneyjim Initiate (172) Jun 23, 2004 Oregon

    I've enjoyed it. Perhaps it is not truly of the style but like a good Oktoberfest I have appreciated it more as we get better acquainted. I would get more but it is scarce on the shelves.
     
  25. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,396) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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  26. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,797) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Wasn't doubting you, just surprised.
     
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  27. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,582) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I might revisit a.bottle of this tonight, definitely get to the last two soon. But after dipping my toe into German Oktoberfest biers I have to say that I recognize this beer as more true to style than I thought at first, but also falling short in the same way that american oktos always have for me. It's just not dry enough. Too sweet.
     
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  28. einhorn

    einhorn Disciple (313) Nov 3, 2005 California

    I had SN Oktoberfest on my radar anyway, this thread persuaded me to grab a 12pk. I'm glad it did, I'm a big SN fan and many of my beer dollars flow their way. Anyway, my $.02 on this Oktoberfest....

    The orange thing: I can only concur. Tastes very much like a Belgian single with candied sugar. It finishes extremely dry and there is a slight tartness to it (acidic malt?) combined with a smidgen of caramalts which amplifies the orangy-ness. I do not get the impression it's coming from the Spalter hops, it seems to be more malt- and pH derived, but that's me.

    All in all, through the higher IBUs and lesser body I get the more of a Vienna Lager than a Märzen, whatever it is there is no doubt that it is an excellent, well-brewed and easily-drinkable beer.
     
  29. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (660) Mar 28, 2009 California

    I was a bit disappointed with the version this year and I was guy who really wanted to love it. The first couple from the 12 pack were good. As someone said it above it was like an Oktoberfest for hop heads, which is me, but I also love Oktoberfests. It just became too fruity and floral for me, more fruity. I got tired of that profile and if you drank more than one the fruity profile just became more and more. Usually good Oktoberfests means more than a few.

    did see they are bottling their celebration!!!! Also, their Dankful IPA is fantastic so I Forgive them.
     
  30. defunksta

    defunksta Champion (892) Jan 18, 2019 North Dakota
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    The orange-ness is undeniable. It does have more breadiness and caramel/brown sugar spice than The Pale Ale. Overall, very similar. Not quite a festbier, but admittedly pretty tasty for an Sierra Nevada Beer.
     
  31. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,582) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Im drinking my last bottle from a 6 pack bottled 8/13 and I think this one might benefit from some time in the bottle. I think I like this bottle most of all. Might grab another 6 pack if I see some old stock around:stuck_out_tongue:
     
  32. ESHBG

    ESHBG Disciple (342) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I could see that, probably mellows out some of the clashing flavors a bit.
     
  33. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Zealot (503) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Damn, pretty close. Even lower than I thought. Sitting at a 3.69 currently.
     
  34. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,630) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Do it! Clean out the Oktoberfest to make room for Celebration.
     
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  35. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,396) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I've come to the conclusion that it is an excellent Festbier.
     
  36. SILVER

    SILVER Initiate (176) Jan 3, 2007 Florida

    I liked it also!
     
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  37. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,834) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The first 6 pack was OK. Just bought a twelve pack as my homebred German beer ran out. I like this later purchase a lot. Might buy another as the price point is good.
     
  38. Raime

    Raime Meyvn (1,336) Jun 4, 2012 Greenland

    I still haven't seen a sixer of this.

    Nary a small time store nor a supermarket. Very unusual when it comes to SN beers.
     
  39. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,630) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    As an Oktoberfest or as a beer in general?
     
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  40. RutgersBeerGuy

    RutgersBeerGuy Aspirant (268) Jan 16, 2007 New York
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    Great beer, poor Oktoberfest. Happy I bought a sixer, all in all.