Silva Stout & Sleepin’ with Shaggy Release Party

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by JustXBeer, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. KaslD

    KaslD Nov 25, 2012 California

    what?!? How much is this?!?
     
  2. Sebowski

    Sebowski Jan 11, 2010 California
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    And by the time my vegetarian buddy made it through the line they were out of tortillas.
     
  3. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    Padre games are in the $55 range including the ticket to the game. Charger games are in the $110 range including ticket.
     
  4. KaslD

    KaslD Nov 25, 2012 California

    Damn thats awesome!
     
  5. luisc123

    luisc123 Oct 20, 2011 California

    So where can I buy these tix? For future reference
     
  6. Xul

    Xul May 18, 2008 California

    I wasn't there and will admit that up front...but how the hell do you run out of tortillas? Considering how ridiculously cheap they are (especially relative to the cost of the event), wouldn't whoever is responsible for the catering just bring an extra few dozen? There are various levels of failure as it pertains to brewery food events, but running out of something as basic as tortillas seems like it goes beyond "a decision you as the consumer disagree with" and zooms right into "complete inability to plan an event."
     
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  7. pinkgrenade

    pinkgrenade Aug 19, 2011 California
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    haha yeah figures. i ate a burrito in my rush from work to the release knowing i was going to be hungry and pissed and gave my food to my friend instead
     
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  8. KaslD

    KaslD Nov 25, 2012 California

    I agree fully. Once I saw how much they had I knew they would run out.
     
  9. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    They weren't normal flat tortillas. They were more like a homemade thin pancake made from corn meal about 5" in diameter.
     
  10. KaslD

    KaslD Nov 25, 2012 California

    Id say 3".....hahahaha
     
  11. cocoapuph

    cocoapuph Mar 4, 2011 California
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    I thought u guys were gonna follow us to taco bell after to order tortillas ;)

    Anyways the bread pudding was pretty tasty.
     
  12. Sebowski

    Sebowski Jan 11, 2010 California
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    I did hear good things about that Taco Bell....
     
  13. Xul

    Xul May 18, 2008 California

    Corn meal is cheap, and it's still inexcusable. If you feel like you got your money's worth, then great, but giving breweries a pass on complete failures to plan ahead and/or contract with someone who's competent at event planning doesn't bode well for the future of these types of events.
     
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  14. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Jul 10, 2009 California
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    I'm going to assume those who went are going to justify the extra $45 as a convenience charge for being able to purchase multiple 4-packs. Thing is, that was never announced and GF failed to deliver on what was advertised. I'm really surprised they're going this route. I got the sense from them that their focus was going to be on beer and they would leave food/dining to other breweries.
     
  15. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    I think the food pairing is dumb. I wouldn't even mind if they charged $50 for the 4 tasters and the opportunity to buy the beer. Food served on small plates in a big warehouse without anyplace to sit down doesn't do much for me.
     
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  16. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Apr 5, 2006 California

    Breweries continue to do overpriced "dinners" with bottle releases and continually fail in the execution and continually sell out yet people want to blame the brewery. Err ok.
     
  17. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Sounds like a chicken and egg dilemma to me. Blame can be placed on both sides.
     
  18. tyrsis

    tyrsis Mar 13, 2009 California
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    This is what kills me. I desperately wanted Silva Stout. But I refuse to encourage this business model of stupid ass events in order to purchase some beer.

    It's the reason I was so disappointed that it sold out. People are willing to throw their money away in order to buy rare beer. Now, they're only going to keep on doing it.
     
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  19. Xul

    Xul May 18, 2008 California

    I agree with you completely, but if people are comfortable paying a large premium just for access to the beer, the failure on the food side isn't even really an issue. It's been discussed quite a bit here that a lot of rare beer is, relatively speaking, underpriced - this is a manifestation of that theory, in that people will shell out money for the "dinner" just to get the beer. I would rather the brewery just charge a premium for the beer than hide behind a poorly executed dinner, but the end result is roughly the same.
     
  20. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    I know that everybody has their own preferences when it comes to beer tastes, but it seems to be most prominent with the strong stouts. When I had the Silva on tap during SD Beer Week (they had some left over a day after the Green Flash event), I was not blown away. I really dug the smoothness, but it was a bit too much of a bourbon explosion for me. I can see why somebody that likes the bourbon taste would be into it, though.
     
  21. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    Somebody at Green Flash, maybe THE somebody, does not seem to be enamored with the ticket system.
     
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  22. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Feb 17, 2010 California
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    I agree with all the comments about food being part of an event lame and all that, however it's just part of going to an event these days. You pay if you think the beer is worth it, you don't if you prefer not to. Otherwise this event sounds like it was a good one, and the extra 4 packs really made it worth it. I'll add that the first event (SDBW 2011) was even more frustrating given that the desert course (I can't even remember what it was) incorporated Silva Stout. Talk about wasting a great beer. They could have used Double Stout, no one would have known the difference. So I definitely consider this year's event an improvement. Unfortunately I couldn't make it.
     
  23. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    They used Silva Stout in the Venison dish this year.
     
  24. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Feb 17, 2010 California
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    That's a shame. Well the extra 4 packs probably made it worth it for most.
     
  25. mikedashg

    mikedashg Dec 19, 2008 California
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    I just walked into the brewery and bought a case of Silva Stout last year. Was delicious! haha. I think I shared/traded half of it. Such a good beer, ready to drink barrel aged beer (since they blend it to perfection). I'd take it over KBS any day. Hope to see some sleepin with shaggy around. :/
     
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  26. grrrah

    grrrah Sep 21, 2009 California
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    Is it bad form to go sporting the visiting team's gear?
     
  27. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    GF distributed this to local stores in SD last week. Love the "you must come to our party and buy our shitty food if you want this beer - it won't be distributed" bait and switch!
     
  28. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California


    That is BS. What is it selling for per bottle? If it is +/- $5 per bottle, we paid $65 for a street taco and a piece of dessert.
     
  29. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    $5.99 - $7.99 so far that I have seen. Green Flash was at several places Friday promoting it - it's an official distribution.

    Sure, we paid $5.00 per bottle, but paid more in the end considering the extra $45 for the event.
     
  30. ficklenicholas

    ficklenicholas Jul 26, 2011 California
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    I will never, EVER go to another green flash event again.
     
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  31. SageO

    SageO Jul 13, 2010 California
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    I almost never complain about the way breweries handle bottle releases (in fact I think I was defending GF earlier in this thread), yet once I saw bottles hitting shelves at that pricepoint I felt pretty jipped. Bad move on GF's part.
     
  32. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Jul 10, 2009 California
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    They'll keep doing it if they can get away with it. Been saying this all along, but just give me the bottles. All that other stuff is optional.
     
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  33. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Nov 29, 2006 California
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    This is really annoying. Pretty much an upfront lie on the part of Green Flash to sell tickets to that garbage event.
     
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  34. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Nov 29, 2006 California
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    That's irrelevant and not a debate that needs to be revisited at this moment. The issue at hand is Green Flash lying to consumers by saying that the only way to get Silva and Shaggy was to go to this $65 event and then turning around weeks later and selling it to stores. I think many people, including me, would have skipped the event if we knew the bottles would be available around town.
     
  35. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    Just to play devil's advocate here (this is not what I believe - just doing the debate club thing), perhaps they decided to bottle up more after the event took place, or they made the decision to distribute to local stores after the event. In that case, they didn't really lie, but you'd think that they would offer an explanation.

    On a possibly related note, they've been a lot less "active" in social media as of late, it seems.
     
  36. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Like you said, GF, from the get go, was giving the impression that this was going to be an exclusive release with a $45 cover charge. The up sell seemed dishonest to me all along. It's because of this willingness to acquire beer at all costs that breweries seem confident about tacking on additional charges. Personally, that doesn't jive with me so even though I want the beer, I'll skip a release altogether.
     
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  37. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Apr 5, 2006 California

    I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
     
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  38. AndresR

    AndresR Jul 19, 2009 California
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    That's how they get ya.

    I feel vindicated now by choosing to skip this BS exclusive release. That, and GF has never thrown an event worth attending at least not at the price point they charge.
     
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  39. domtronzero

    domtronzero Aug 18, 2007 California

    The bottles I've seen in the store had bottling dates of December 2012. I'm pretty sure it was the same run of bottles that was released at the party.
     
  40. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Nov 29, 2006 California
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    I guess if you ended up leaving with 24 bottles (4 bottles included with $64.29 ticket + 5 additional 4 packs available at $20/4 pack) then the cost per bottle was $6.85. Still, not bad and it was simple to get the bottles. The dishonesty is annoying but if I remind myself of the math and the ability to buy a lot more bottles than I would have otherwise been able to get, it's not so bad.
     
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