Site Update: Feb 27, 2012

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Feb 27, 2012.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,941) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    Hey BAs -

    First, if you've yet to read the last round of updates:

    As for this round ...

    User/Content Sync

    • Conversion of 285,000+ users is complete. This means that any non-forum content has been synced to their migrated account. Took 5+ days to complete! Would have been 10 days if we hadn't purged 250,000+ inactive users before the migration.
    • I mentioned that a small group of users failed to be migrated over. Good news is that any content they had is intact and I'm creating a script to sync them on a case by case basis.
    • If you suspect that you're one of these users (i.e. - you can't log in using your username) please contact me via email: todd@the obvious. You'll need to create a new account and prove that your old one belongs to you. If you've already contacted me, please be patient. I'll get to you.
    Old/New Site Visual Integration

    As mentioned previously, there's obviously a big disconnect between the two sites visually. I'm working on this as I type. It's a big job, and I'm still wrapping my head around some of the intricacies, but I'll keep everyone posted with my progress. Unfortunately I don't have an ETA, but it's a very high priority of mine.

    Profiles/Existing Content

    This is a note for those who've yet to read any of the other updates.

    • Old profiles and the old beer karma are no more. As posted earlier we're looking at different ways to integrate user stats and reward users for their site contributions.
    • To view your beer reviews, hads, wants and gots:
    • To view your place reviews:
    • To view another user's reviews: append "?ba={username}" to the above URLs; w/o the quotes. This is just a work-around for now.
    • Forum posts have been saved, but are not accessible. We plan on archiving these as static content in the future.
    That's it for now. I'll continue to drop these updates when I have more.

    And thanks again for your support and patience!

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  2. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    I really wish there was a way for you to find out how many emails get sent to "todd@the obvious"...
  3. BeerSingh

    BeerSingh Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2009 India

    All the best with the integration Todd, great renovation.
  4. cpinto6

    cpinto6 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2010 Georgia

    Whoever has done this is stupid beyond comprehension or was drunk off their ass when they did.
  5. azorie

    azorie Champion (892) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    Any heads up on rule changes about posting? file sizes, web site pimping etc? also are these forums search engine searchable?
    thanks, just curious.
  6. exodus1369

    exodus1369 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2008 California

    Like the new stuff but... is the "Karma" Gone?
  7. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    No, Karma is not gone. I remember reading that Todd was figuring a way to work it in to the trpophy system (I think).

    Either way, from what I read it's not going away.
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  8. denver10

    denver10 Poo-Bah (2,923) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico

  9. ummswimmin

    ummswimmin Meyvn (1,269) Mar 28, 2011 New Jersey

    I appreciate all the work going into porting the website over. That is a ton of content to get working properly.
  10. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (721) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Can somebody explain what was sync'ed over today? Perhaps I'm being obtuse but I'm not seeing anything obvious, as my profile looks exactly the same as it did a week ago.
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  11. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,941) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    As you're a more active user, your data was synced early. So basically you don't have to worry about it. I'm merely mentioning that it's now complete.
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  12. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (721) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Got it - thanks!
  13. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Sweet. Keep up the good work. I look forward to seeing how you do the visual integration, and what the new format for user stats/rewards will look like.
  14. MrDanno96

    MrDanno96 Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2009 Ohio

    Thanks for all the hard work, Todd! I can't wait to see the site once visual integration is complete. Cheers!
  15. Beejay

    Beejay Poo-Bah (2,725) Dec 29, 2008 Virginia

    Will be very happy when everything is synced and back up to normal(ish).
  16. Crabbicuss

    Crabbicuss Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2011 Maryland

    Any idea when we will be able to view other member's wants, gots, etc? Forgot to mention, Thanks for all the hard work guys!!!
  17. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (7,019) Sep 24, 2007 Liechtenstein
    Society Trader

    Will the info/stats box from our old profile page be making the migration? The box that showed # of reviews, # of beers/events/places added, rating average, etc? I liked that as a quick way to check on things.
    libbey, rudzud, hhkal17 and 1 other person like this.
  18. GehenHerzog

    GehenHerzog Disciple (310) Jan 24, 2010 North Carolina

    What exactly was Beer Karma?
  19. WillCarrera

    WillCarrera Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Ohio

    I'm able to log into my account, but using the above link and inserting my username into it to see my beers isn't working for me, I'm just getting one of those 404 not found errors
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  20. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,078) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    Society Trader

    Just click on the link without inserting your name. That worked for me.
  21. exodus1369

    exodus1369 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2008 California

    Good stuff
  22. KevSal

    KevSal Meyvn (1,041) Oct 17, 2010 California

    i had some info on my profile that i wanted to cut and paste (pending trades and some reason trades i havnt saved yet etc) is it too late to find that info?

    i remebr reading somewhere that they can still be viewed but when i put the link it did t come up.

  23. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,078) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    Society Trader
  24. WillCarrera

    WillCarrera Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Ohio

    perfect! that totally works, thanks man!
  25. stevefinny

    stevefinny Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2009 New Jersey

    Keep up the great work!!!!
  26. KevSal

    KevSal Meyvn (1,041) Oct 17, 2010 California

  27. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,078) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    Society Trader

    Here's what I did. I went to the original BA site, entered your user name in the search beer. Of course, there were 0 results but the site brings up Google searches and I found your profile listed there and clicked on it:
  28. woosterbill

    woosterbill Poo-Bah (3,007) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
    Society Trader

    You can do it now: Just replace my username with that of the BA whose wants you want to see, and voila. It's not the most elegant solution, but it works for now.
  29. TheMultiYeast

    TheMultiYeast Defender (605) Oct 11, 2011 Vermont

    Hey you guys are doing a great job. Can't wait to see the final product. Til then...we drink beer.
  30. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Disciple (302) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia

    Beer Karma is a mystical measurement of what a user puts into The more a user contributes, the more Beer Karma the site assigns to the user. It's that simple, yet not.

    The Halls of Beerdom
    Whenever you see one of the following vessels (the pics didn't copy to this meessage) next to a user's name it denotes that they have achieved a specific level of Beer Karma and that their names have been scribed into The Halls of Beerdom.

    There are currently 12 levels of beerdom, and the terms listed for each level reflect a user's Beer Karma; as it pertains to this site, not their personal beer knowledge or inner Beer Karma.

    Beer Karma Points Level of Beerdom
    - Acolyte
    250 Initiate
    500 Disciple
    1000 Zealot of Beer
    1500 Aficionado
    2500 Connoisseur
    3500 Beer Savant
    5000 Champion of Beer
    7000 Pooh-Bah
    10000 Grand Pooh-Bah
    15000 Grand High Pooh-Bah
    ‡ Order of the Eternal Beer (a BA fez! hell yeah!)

    "Order of the Eternal Beer" is reserved for a select few and issued by The Alström Bros. It must be earned.
    Forum posts on the topic of Beer Karma will be removed, and messages to us will be ignored. Nothing personal, it's just the way of Beer Karma.
    Seek not the origins of Beer Karma

    Yes, we made some changes to Beer Karma yesterday, with another update occurring right now, and probably another one next week. Beer Karma always changes ... but it's nothing to worry about, or get all mad about, or leave the site over. It's simply a measure of what people put into the site. Nothing more ... but to make it more than what it is or put a tremendous amount of focus on it is absolutely ridiculous - one of the reasons why it only appears on profile pages and in the form of an icon now.

    Furthermore, except for user specific updates to Beer Karma, if it changes for one user, it changes for all. And Beer Karma is only deducted if something that was put into the site is removed (forum post, review, etc), or if the formula for calculating it changes.

    Some suggest that Beer Karma should actually go away. It's not going to. It's a harmless feature of the site and should be taken lightly and, again, viewed as nothing more than a measure of what people put into the site.

    Seek not the origins of Beer Karma.


  31. obrike

    obrike Defender (648) Jun 19, 2009 Texas

    It's fun to be involved and active with a site where the owners actually give a damn and want to make things better and more user friendly. Can't wait for the finished project. Great job Bros!
  32. GehenHerzog

    GehenHerzog Disciple (310) Jan 24, 2010 North Carolina

    Yes, but that doesn't tell me what its use was.
    Seemed pretty useless.
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  33. WassailWilly

    WassailWilly Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2007 New York

    I thought the old site was amazing ..With that said the new one TOTALLY blows that one away !!! Great job
  34. Stankonia

    Stankonia Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2010 Idaho

    Are we ever going to be able to see a user's location under their user name?
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  35. gtermi

    gtermi Meyvn (1,204) Apr 21, 2010 Texas

    I completely agree.
  36. hannydawg

    hannydawg Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2010 Illinois

    Did the site just go offline for a minute for anyone else? I'm guessing more syncing is going on, but it was down for me for a couple of minutes.
  37. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,941) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    Yep. Had to apply some changes to the database for better data integrity, speed and scalability.
  38. jegross2

    jegross2 Meyvn (1,251) Jan 3, 2010 Illinois

    Will we get any stats on brews, such as:

    1) Number reviewed by style
    2) Average review by style
    3) Average total review
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  39. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,941) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    Yep. As posted a few times now we're looking into ways of display beer/place review stats for users. Unfortunately I have a ton on my plate and I'm only coder, but we'll get there ...
  40. jegross2

    jegross2 Meyvn (1,251) Jan 3, 2010 Illinois

    No hurry. Just get the site working! Just glad I was able to access BMs, etc. to complete trades in time for a trip I took last weekend

    My 2 cents, I hate the new interface, but meh.
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