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  1. mikeyv35

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    I was just looking through my beer that I have cellared with a lip of Skoal Straight in as I usually do, and a weird thought came into my head. Has a beer ever been brewed using actual tobacco such as Skoal, Copenhagen, or Red Man? Or has a beer ever been aged in an empty tobacco barrel?

    ISO: English Barleywine Aged In Skoal/Copenhagen Barrel

    My 2 favorite habits are beer and Skoal Straight some brewer help me out here!
     
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    When is tobacco aged in barrels? Please provide source.
     
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    Ew.

    I've seen beer overseas made with marijuana, which is actually a cousin to hops. Heard they were a horrible novelty.

    Why not try to homebrew some? :) A tobacco rauchbier >might< be interesting.
     
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    It's illegal. For good reason. And no, tobacco is not aged in barrels. It's aged in bales in warehouses.
     
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    Tobacco on occasions is aged in whiskey barrels and other various barrels to impart certain flavors. I have personally had tobacco aged in whiskey barrels and not the cheap Copenhagen whiskey flavored version. What I had was aged in a whiskey barrel w/ some remaining whiskey in the barrel.
     
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    Thanks for the literature guys! I had loose leaf tobacco or side chew (like Red Man) in college when I was playing ball that was aged in a whiskey barrel. The shit was awesome! The tobacco honestly had all the nicotine you needed for your fix and at the same time was pretty intoxicating w/ strong whiskey flavors. My buddy special ordered the tobacco.
     
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    Why would it be illegal to brew a beer utilizing tobacco or empty tobacco barrels? Tobacco is legal in the US and you have to be 21 to buy beer which also covers tobacco.
     
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    I think you would need to be careful about the nicotine in the beer. I am no expert, but I believe you could actually poison the beer with nicotine if you tried this. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can weigh in. Better to stick to the brewing techniques and malts that give beers the tobacco taste some, like Adam, get, and which are delicious.
     
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    Dave, this might be a new idea for you! Plus, it would give me a good reason to drive out to you, drink some good brew, and learn a thing or two about home brewing from a vet.
     
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    How about if you just brewed a beer and simply aged it in an empty whiskey barrel that also housed tobacco?
     
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    I'll try anything once. You might be the only one willing to drink it with me though haha
     
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    I will start to check around for empty barrels of this kind, probably going to be tough to find.
     
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    You brew the beer and I will be the guinea pig. An English barley wine that already had mild tobacco notes would probably go good into a whiskey/tobacco barrel IMO. Also, maybe an Alt Bier :).
     
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    Soaking tobacco in water will create a rather toxic and effective pesticide. People will argue that you can use a small amount in a beer to get flavor but personally I would avoid the potentially deadly concoction.

    Short's brewed a beer with Lasang Su Chong, a smoked tea, which was said to taste like an ash tray. Maybe that is a better options.
     
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    I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
     
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    I mean I don't have the brewing knowledge that you or Dave has, but my thought was not to use actual tobacco that would be floating in water, but to just age a beer in a barrel that housed both whiskey and tobacco. I would think this would allow tobacco notes to be picked up along w/ whiskey w/o making a deadly pesticide as you spoke of.
     
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