So I might just entered in my first "Comp"

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  1. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    So there is a "Pros vs Joes" kind of competition in my area, and I have just inquired about it more. Now I am a pretty basic kind of brewer but it is a Local Brew masters home brewing against people like me so figured I would humor entering. Not sure if there is a style or type of beer restriction or if I can pull something good off in 28 days (has horror film flashes just with bad beer instead of zombies). If I feel I can do it, I will probably Brew Friday night or Saturday. I would want something kind of Fall ish and probably add some maple extract for even more Fall flavors. Any good amber or Oktoberfest like recipes anyone could suggest for such a thing? Also Partial mash (which would be my first ) or extract as I do not have the equipment for anything more.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You can't really do a good Oktoberfest in 28 days. Maybe a Faux Oktoberfest, i.e. an Amber Ale with a clean ale strain. Do you keg or bottle? If the latter, half your time is going to be spent carbonating.
     
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  3. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    I do bottle, which is what I knew would limit me. They kind of just threw this event up (which seemed odd to me), but figured they are going for people who keg... I did brew a winter this last weekend that would be pretty good in time, but am not sure if they what something fall like.
     
  4. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I'd look into brewing an Aletoberfest (Oktoberfest grain bill but fermented with a German Ale yeast). 28 days is going to be pushing it, but it's doable. If you do 2 weeks in primary, that leaves you with 2 weeks to carb in the bottle. I've seen it done before, but it definitely won't be at it's prime. It'll be drinkable though, and it'll be beer. Good luck, and get crackin!
     
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  5. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    You could use a super fast clean yeast maybe?

    You could probably enter any beer in that competition. If there were rules or stipulations, you should have been made pretty clear of them!
     
  6. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    I am bottle conditioning a Tumbler Autumn Brown clone or you could do a Maple Ale.
     
  7. Reneejane

    Reneejane Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2004 Illinois

    yay! you'll enjoy doing so! I'm training to be a mead judge with the bjcp. I'd suggest reading through the bjcp stype guidelines (or whichever established style guidelines are in use for this contest, ie: could be gabf), and make sure you remember that you are getting judged against that. So, if you enter a fricking awesome amber ale in the oktoberfest category, it's going to hit a ceiling on max points because it'll be out of style.
     
  8. Reneejane

    Reneejane Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2004 Illinois

    So, if you take care of your ale yeast well you can get off to a good start on fermentation and have it ferment out clean and floc and drop out pretty quickly. I brewed an amber ale with wyeast whitbread ale yeast (with a starter) and was racking to a secondary less than 1 week later. (high flocculation, clean flavor, that particular yeast has a lag so you NEED a good starter).
     
  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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  10. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    So would like a little input on this. Not sure she will be ready in time, but should be fun (kind excuse the noobish ness of this partial mash):

    4lb Maris Otter Pale malt
    1lb Amber malt (I am shooting for an amber after all)
    .75lb Caramel 120 malt
    .5lb Victory malt
    3.3 LME light at flame out
    1oz Challenger 60min
    .5oz Cascade 30min
    .5oz Cascade 10min
    1oz Maple extract
    .25 tsp Irish Moss
    Wyeast Northwest Ale 1332
    OG:1.057
    FG: 1.018
    Color: 16 SRM
    36.6 IBUs
    5.15 ABV

    So I am a complete noob at making my own recipe (and free internet sites for making them) so if something is just plain wrong let me know. Also will be my first partial mash. Grains are what I tend to see in some recipes online, and what I know my local guy has. Is Victory Malt too light? Hops are the ones I like, not 100% sure if they are on point for the style. Is 1oz Maple Extract enough? Planning to add that to the Primary, but am open to suggestions on it too, can't seem to find too much as to the best time to add it.
     
  11. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    Whats the logic behind adding 3.3# of LME at flame out?
     
  12. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    I saw it in a few recipes that I liked more then others so figured I would copy that? My guessing is something along the lines of a late extract addition. Not 100% sure of the reasons behind it, but was told it make for better efficiency.
     
  13. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    It won't do anything for effiency. The only reason to add at flameout is if you're not doing full boil and you want better hop utilization.

    That recipe should be ok, for the most part. I'd leave out maple extract, but your call. Amber malt is fairly strong, recommended max is 10% (you're pushing it with this one). I've only used a couple times though, and never more than 5%..
     
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  14. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Well I can drop the Amber to .5lb and increase the Victory up. Not sure if that is best, or what (kind of why I was looking for input). I can adjust things some.

    As for the late extract addition at flame out, not sure why they guys I talked to said what they did. Just figured it was like typical late extract addition, of which I have done a few but never really knew the reason behind.
     
  15. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    LME is often added at flame out because of it's propensity to scorch. DME does not have that problem. Hop utilization will improve a little, but I usually add any extract @ 10 min for sanitation purposes (probably overkill) and because I have an aluminum sandwiched kettle.
     
  16. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    I have never done less than a 60 minute boil with either extract, unless kettle souring. That's just me though!
     
  17. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I have always added half my extract at 5minutes with no ill effects.
     
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  18. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    ^ The beauty of the hobby!
     
  19. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    Amber malts can be quite different from one another

    crisp - quite light and biscuity
    fawcetts - much more strongly flavoured, with coffee notes
    simpsons - in the middle

    Then I don't know what the US ones are like
     
  20. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I'm not sure there are any...only amber extract I think here
     
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