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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Nickqb7, Feb 1, 2014.
PNC is one of my favorites, so gooood
Have to add CS Batch 60 to that list, probably in the tied for 10th spot, what an amazing, unique beer. Sooo much citrus.
bottle or draft? bottle is soooooo much better than the draft is, like a completely different beer
I've had it on draft and from the bottle, but with a few months in between. I don't recall one being particularly different than the other, but perhaps I would if I'd had them side by side.
Not in any order:
Lou Pepe Framboise
Oude Kriek de Cam
3F Oude Geuze Vintage
Armand'4 Zomer? Cantillon Classic Gueuze? I dunno--I haven't had Lente yet but I'm sure it will take this spot when I open one
This is basically impossible...but, I'll give it a shot. In no particular order:
Cantillon St Lamvinus (I prefer the '11 vintage, which I think someone also said earlier)
Cantillon Fou Foune ('09 rocks, but any vintage once it hits the 2-3 year mark is perfect for me)
3F Framboos ('11)
Cantillon Lou Pepe Kriek (and Framboise, but slightly lesser so for me)
RR Beatification (Batch 3 is really special, but all the ones I've had are good)
De Cam Lambiek Special
Southampton Black Raspberry Lambic
Crooked Stave Chardonnay Surette Reserva (when it was really fresh)
There's tons of other ones...Bullfrog Et Tu Brut, Chez Monus, the Armand seasons, Cantillon/3F/Tilquin gueuze, Cable Car, WWBV (if that counts), West Ashley, Sour in the Rye Peaches, Fantasia, etc etc.
I have a sour problem.
Cantillon Rosé de Gambrinus is def top of my list.
In no particular order:
1. Cascade Elderberry
2. Duchesse de Bourgogne
3. GI Lolita
4. Tilquin Gueuze
5. Birra del Borgo Duchessic
6. NB La Terroir
7. Cuvée des Jacobins Rouge
8. Deschutes The Dissident
9. Rodenbach Grand Cru
10. Monk's Cafe Flemish Red
Also, Lou Pepe framboise was one of the best beers I've ever had but I don't really count it as a sour because it was more like an earthy sweet candy flavor with a hint of tartness than full-on sour. Same with Cantillon Kriek. Tasted more like a crab apple than anything else. Oh and I forgot BFM square root 225. Though technically a saison, it definitely had some sourness to it and was magnificent.
One of my favorites:
Flora - Satsuma Mandarin
I'm very new to sours. I've discovered they are like crack. My only real experience thus far has been Wicked Weed Black Angel, Oblivion, and Serenity. How do they stack up before I empty my wallet on some of these others. I live in NC and most of these mentioned are made of unobtainium here. Rodenbach is available and I'm about to drive to the bottle shop for Rodenbach Gran Cru.
Hell yeah NG beers are great. Didnt get to try that peach though
Anything Cascade or HF and Westbrook Gose.
Taking into account quality, value and availability (not in order):
1. Tilquin Oude Gueze
2. Hannsens artisanal (the Oude's, Kriek Gueze, and whatever their word for strawberry is)
3. Gose Gone Wild
4. Rodenbach Grand Cru
5. Bear Republic Tartare
6. Cantillon Classic Oude Gueze
7. Anderson Valley Holy Gose (or Westbrook, which is slightly better but less available in SOVA)
8. Petrus Aged Pale
10. RR Supplication
I got Black Angel in a trade and thought it was pretty good...if you like those, you can't go wrong with most of the stuff in this thread if you can get it.
If you see one of the "vintage" Rodenbachs...like 07 or 08, grab one of those. I like the regular grand cru but the vintage was even better
#1: Cantillon Fou Foune
As my profile image shows, I really love some of the stuff from The Bruery.....unfortunately, being outside California really limits my consumption Tart of Darkness is one of my favorites, as is Rodenbach Gand Cru. I would say that those are the top two for me....Sam Adams makes a more mellow sour that is great for people trying to break into the style as well.... Stony Brook Red.
Allagash Coolship Red
Cascade Sang Noir
Woodicus 2012 (the bottle I had anyway)
Very first sour was a Boulevard Love Child #3. And I hated it, swore I'd never have another. Then I tried a NG Oud Bruin and was hooked. I haven't really ventured past the Flanders Oud Bruin style yet but in due time I will. Here's my short list.
NG Wild Peach (Damn that shits good)
NG Oud Bruin
Vanderghinste Oud Bruin
Not in order...
Gose Gone Wild
Love Child No. 4
Tilquin Oude Gueuze
It's funny how things change, because I probably would've put La Folie in this list a couple years ago. Now, it's probably not even top 20. Still a great beer (obviously) that I buy every year when it comes out, but it seems there are more and more great beers every year. There's only so much room in a top 10.
Sour in the Rye with Pineapple and Coconut
Oude Tart With Cherries
La Folie 2013
Almanac Valley of the Hearts Delight
Sour in the Rye Kumquat
Love Child #3/#4
Cascade Kriek is what got me into sours so it will always get a mention.
Tough to pick a top 10. Love all these beers. Definitely miss living by The Bruery.
OP, I am certainly no expert in this style but I would suggest trying the KMF Grand Cru when it comes around if you're near San Diego or San Francisco.
Cantillon grand Crue
Drie Fontaine gueuze
Cantillon Lou peppe gueuze
Cantillon Lou peppe Kriek
Russian river beatification
Drie of Fontaine Kriek
Cantillon Lou peppe framboise
Drie Fontaine Kriek
Drie whatever something
Stuff that it isn't too crazy insane to get:
Wicked Weed sours, Cantillon Classic Gueueze, 3 Fonteinen Oude Gueuze.
Cantillon Lou Pepe Kriek
Russian River Consecration
Allagash Coolship Cerise
Wicked Weed Black Angel
Cantillon Cuvee St. Gilloise
Rodenbach Grand Cru and Goose Island Madame Rose are also classics.
Farmers Reserve Pluot
Lou Pepe Framboise
Sour in the Rye w/Kumquats
Rose de Gambrinus
Sour in the Rye
Farmers Reserve Blackberry
Tough to order these. Beyond Atrial (easy top sour for me), you could choose any 9 of the others listed and call it my Top 10.
Rodenbach Grand Cru is a fantastic value at the price point I usually see it at...but if you want to splurge the Rodenbach Caractere Rouge is truly special...
Tried the cantillon rose and have become obsessed with hoarding as much cantillon as possible. The Bruery SiTR with pineapple and coconut was killer as well. Crooked stave has to be my next favorite behind cantillon. I also have many many more to try before I can make lists like some of these.
Sour is a flavor or characteristic, not a style. I think you have to be specific, so this is what I would say:
My favorite Flemish Reds are Rodenbach Grand Cru (especially a vintage bottle), Rodenbach Caractere Rouge, and Duchesse de Bourgogne from Verhaeghe.
Among Flemish Browns, I think Liefmans Goudenband and Vanderghinste Oud Bruin are both excellent.
Every beer I have had from Cantillon has been spectacular, and each is tart in its own way. The classic gueuze and the fruit lambics are fantastic.
Among American Wild Ales and U.S. made beers that tend to be sour, I loved Cascade's Bourbonic Plague and La Folie from New Belgium. While I vastly prefer the original Belgian brews listed above, these can be quite good.
I have recently visited the "House of Sour" (Cascade Brewing Company) and found (IMO) that it fell vastly short after visiting The Bruery in Orange County area. I don't know that I can name 10 of the sours I've tried, but ones that stand out are (in no order..)
Sour in the Rye-The Bruery
La Folie- New Belgium
Duchesse de bourgogne-Brouwerij Verhaeghe
Cuvee Des Jacobins- stuff i cant spell
Tart of Darkness- Bruery
Rodenbach Grand Cru
Framboise De Amorosa-Lost abbey
Is it made with real Snozzberries?
I havent tried many, but i enjoy Evil Twin Justin Blåbær. Probably not on the same level of some of the waelz listed, but a damn tasty beverage none the less. Trying some Cantillon this weekend. Not sure which one, but I know I saw some at my liquor store last week.
You must have had a bad bottle....this is a great beer from Green Man
New Glarus Sour Peach
Central Waters Plums Were Are On Sale
Central Waters Exodus
Central Waters Boysen The Woods
New Glarus Wild Sour
Cigar City Lacto Guava Grove
New Glarus VSB
Jester King Nocturn
One Barrel Whisky Barrel Black Berry
In that order.
Framboise de Amorosa is outstanding, a RR beer that I haven't seen mentioned- sanctification is very solid, Bruery tart of darkness is stellar. Hard to find a sour in Spain, I envy you as I used to live a half hour from RR.
For me SO FAR:
NG Wild Peach
Bruery Oude Tart w/Cherries
Gose Gone Wild
Tilquin Oude Gueuze
Hanssens Oude Kriek
Cantillon Classic, Rose de Gambrinus
Avery Rufus Corvus
Rodenbach Grand Cru, Duchesse De Bourgogne, Monk's Cafe, Jolly Pumpkin La Roja, Jolly Pumpkin Noel De Calabaza, Wicked Weed Black Angel, Wicked Weed Oblivion.
For me I'd Say,
Bruery Oude Tart/ tart of darkness
Gose Gone Wild
Tilquin Oude Gueuze
rodenback grand cru
duchesse de Bourgogne
and monk's cafe
Anyone whose list doesn't include Jackie O's Oaky Golden Pucker, Dynamo Hum, Evelyn, Brown Recluse, Berliner Weisse, or Chunga's Old Bruin is missing out on some world class beers.
Just had the Stillwater/Westbrook Gose Gone Wild last night. That was really amazing.
I can't really add much to the existing list. Cantillon, Drie Fonteinen, and Tilquin are all world class. And I love the New Glarus fruit beers. However, the two best sours I've ever had were Zwanze 2012 at Cantillon and Timmerman's Gueuze at Rose Red Cafe, served out of their own barrel. A very complex sour that I drank a lot of one night.