Specific Gluten Content in beer vs. bread

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Finn, Feb 14, 2014.

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  1. Finn

    Finn Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2003 Pennsylvania

    Hey folks, I've been looking for some info on the quantity of gluten in beer vs. bread, just for some reference when educating my gluten "sensitive" friends who are on the fence with beer sometimes.

    My impression is that many beers (including craft, of course) have pretty darn low levels of gluten, say around 10-15 ppm. Many obviously have a lot more (stronger, fuller-bodied, wheat beer etc.), but I just have no idea what, say, a slice of regular white bread contains in ppm compared to a beer.

  2. Brownj1288

    Brownj1288 Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2012 Virginia

    A 1oz slice of white bread contains about 3.5g of gluten.

    The problem with beer is that there are almost no resources for how much gluten is in a specific beer. An adjunct lager brewed with rice is likely fairly safe, people have tested corona down to 20ppm, however the majority of breweries don't advertise and likely don't know the gluten content.

    You also have issues with how much a person can tolerate, under 20ppm is typically considered safe for someone with celiacs, however there are people who still react even at those low levels.
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  3. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Why would you even want to do this? Do you like suggesting things to people that may hurt them?
  4. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    No need to worry about comparing beer with bread or educating anyone.

    Using Google will let you find that there is an entire web site devoted to "gluten free beer." You can go there and then find some of those beers that you like and would recommend to others who want gluten free or low gluten levels. Then you will be able to point your friends toward the site and the information they need to make up their own minds based on their individual tolerance levels for gluten and risk.
  5. mackeyse

    mackeyse Initiate (0) Aug 21, 2012 New York

    There are some other threads about this here and there on this site but as aforementioned the adjunct beers tend to have very low gluten and my gluten "sensitive" friends have no problems with them. Emphasis on "sensitive" as true celiacs can't have any gluten so adjunct lagers are still a no-go for them. These sensitive folks couldn't handle multiple IPA's or Pale Ales without some discomfort and forget about wheat based beers. The Gluten-Free beer option is a "to each his own" type thing for me as I have never found a gluten free beer that tasted right to me. But as jmw noted above you need to delineate between sensitivity and someone who can't have gluten period. Until beer manufacturers decide its worth posting the ppm's on bottles/cans its truly never going to be safe for gluten sensitive people to drink beers...and with some brewers still not posting bottling dates on their products I cant see PPM's being a priority.
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  6. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 Missouri

    Sounds like he's trying to help them drink beer.

    You're doing God's work!
  7. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    Were you talking about gluten or taste? :wink:
  8. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Pooh-Bah (2,986) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    I had to go gluten free for two months to determine a sensitivity. Let me just say for the record that every single gluten free beer absolutely sucks. The maker of the first decent one will be a rich man.

    Different people will have different people have different tolerances. If your friends are celiacs, giving then beer with gluten is essentially giving them poison. I have a modest gluten sensitivity. I know that if I have a few beers with gluten, I am going to have the shits the next day. (That is really not that different from the rest of you). I know I would be miserable if I did it all the time (like some of you).

    For your gluten sensitive friends, there are a lot of options besides beer.
  9. BEERschlitz

    BEERschlitz Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2013 Michigan

    I lol'd at the idea of 20 parts per million of "taste" being a measurement. Thanks for that one.
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  10. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2010 California

  11. mfabing88

    mfabing88 Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2014

    Not all gluten free beers are bad. Two Brothers has a gluten removed beer and another Chicago brewery called 5 Rabbit has a couple too.
  12. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    When did gluten free and gluten allergies become a "thing"? I honestly never heard about it until last year, and I would imagine 10 years ago, almost nobody heard of it. Did people not have gluten allergies before?
  13. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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  14. marleyr

    marleyr Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2014 South Carolina

    Can't remember which comedian said "I can't afford to be gluten-free." I think it's just a trend now. I've also heard that even "GLUTEN-FREE" beers aren't totally gluten free. I wonder if it's like anything "-free" stuff. For example, fat-free (0.5% fat), alcohol-free (0.5% alc.), etc.
  15. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Pundit (922) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    if something is labelled "gluten free" and it is not, that's a serious Federal offence. There's very strict regulations on "gluten free", unlike other "-free" things.
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  16. jesskidden

    jesskidden Pooh-Bah (2,981) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    You seem to be off by a century or so:

    In the US, "Non-alcoholic" beer in the US has to be under 0.5% abv, but to be labeled "Alcohol-free" it must contain no alcohol. See page 1-7 in Chapter 1 of the TTB's The Beverage Alcohol Manual (BAM) - Basic Mandatory Labeling Information for MALT BEVERAGES
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  17. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,695) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Agreed but what he is getting at is there is a standard for gluten free and it is not 0 ppm - there is an allowable amount of gluten in gluten free things, it is just an extremely small amount. Quick search of the FDA seems to indicate it is allowable to have up to 20 ppm.
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  18. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Pundit (922) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    I am cudgelling my memory, but I think "low gluten / gluten reduced" is allowed up to 20ppm, but "gluten free" is 0ppm? I have no citation for this, but I am positive someone here will have the right page bookmarked :slight_smile:
  19. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    No, I am exactly where I want to be. I didn't say when was it discovered I could have easily looked that up. I said when did it become a "thing"? Of course, that in and of itself was vague, but I meant when did it become widely known, along with the popularization of "gluten-free" food and beverages. As a child and up until my late 50's, I had never once heard of the concern for eating gluten, or its associated allergies (along with celiacs disease). Maybe I was blindly ignorant of such thing, but I have always done (or gone along with my wife) to do food shopping and i've never noticed foods advertising being gluten-free. Nowadays, there are entire sections of local grocers that have them.
  20. marleyr

    marleyr Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2014 South Carolina

    YOU ARE SO WRONG! Pick up ANY can/bottle of Non-Alcoholic beer. it says 0.5% or less. Even Busch N/A
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