Starting a Cellar (noob) How do you keep track?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by EvoJoe, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    Hey guys,

    I am new to the craft brew world and have just started to "Cellar" beers. I say "Cellar" because im not yet at the point of storing for aging purposes, right now its mostly an inventory of beers I want to taste and share. So my question is, what do you guys do to keep track of what you have? I have maybe 30 bottles in my inventory right now and have already double bought because i didnt remember buying it. Ive read around and have seen a lot of excel sheets on google docs. That seems to be the most common. I also found this thread which has a few apps but mostly for droid, ive got an iphone.

    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/cellar-manager.65574/

    What do you guys use to keep your inventory straight but most importantly, what do you guys keep track of in there? Obvious is the Beer Name, Brewery, Style and Quantity. Do you keep track of Purchase Date, Batch Date, Enjoy By Date, Price? Do you rate your beers in there also? Im curious as to what everyone does.


    Heres what I have so far in my Inventory:

    Foothills Sexual Chocolate X3
    Lagunitas Sucks X3
    Hopslam X8
    GD Oak Aged Yeti
    GD Espresso Aged Yeti
    GD Chocolate Aged Yeti
    Avery The Beast Grand Cru (2011) X4
    Ommegang Rare Vos
    Still Water Artisanal Folklore - The Tale of Van Winkle
    Olde Hickory OA Daniel Boone x2
    BFM bfm abbaye de saint bon-chien 2011
    BFM bfm abbaye de saint bon-chien 2006
    Monks Cafe Flemish Sour Ale
    Fullers Vintage Ale 2011 x3
    Hoppin Frog BA Oatmeal Imperial Stout


    Theres more but i cant remember them!


    Thanks
    Joe
     
  2. Hanzo

    Hanzo Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Google Drive spreadsheet.
     
  3. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    Yeah i saw that. Very simplistic and basic information which is what i could easily build in an excel sheet. There is definitely more to cellaring then just the basics though. Im sure you would need to track purchase date, drink date, location (if you have a big cellar) What other information is useful in the long run though?
     
  4. je1129

    je1129 Feb 22, 2011 Iowa

    You can add all that info on the notes section of the beer you enter in cellarhq. I like it because it autocorrects you the brewery and beer after typing a couple letters and has drop down menus for dates and sizes. Very quick and easy.
     
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  5. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    Cool thanks! My only concern with having that in the notes section is that it wont be filterable. So if i have beers that will be ready in the next month id like to find it since ive probably forgot about it lol.

    What other information besides the Brewery, Beer Name, Style, Size, Quantity, Bottled Date, would be good to keep track of?
     
  6. Hanzo

    Hanzo Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I just have this on my sheet

    Brewery Name
    Beer Name
    Style
    ABV
    Bottle Date
    Qty
    Notes

    Once a beer is drank it has its picture taken and is logged here as a had (or review it is that is your thing) and then is removed from the sheet.
     
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  7. marshmeli

    marshmeli Feb 14, 2012 New York
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    Well there is cellaring and then there is tracking... I use a Google Drive file for my cellar list (what I have not drank, abv, size, brewery, name, year, bottled date, notes, box location, etc).

    for tracking what I drink I use BA and untappd
     
  8. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    I use Untappd for what i drink too. Find me on there EvoJoeRacing :)


    Thats what i am looking for :) Ill add Abv and Box Location to the list
     
  9. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Feb 28, 2012 Virginia
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    I wouldnt keep those Sucks and Hopslams in inventory too long. Last year I found a six pack of Sucks about 3 months after release and didnt understand why everyone liked it so much until I had it fresh this year.
     
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  10. rowingbrewer

    rowingbrewer May 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    several step process
    1. cut down on the number of beers you have by keeping the hopslam and sucks in the fridge and drink them fresh
    2. spreadsheet
     
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  11. 4kbrianb

    4kbrianb Jan 2, 2013 California

    I use a spreadsheet, and a basic cheap app on my phone, but my primary tracker is my spreadsheet.

    P.s. you can use a combo of date forumulas so that the current age in days for each beer shows up on your tracker... that is, as long as you know the bottling date.

    Or you can just use an app on your phone to do all the dirty work for you. I probably enjoy excel too much.
     
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  12. Moose90

    Moose90 Nov 25, 2012 Washington
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    Excel, or a GoogleDrive Spreadsheet, if you are private just use excel, but if you want it visible to others (for trading purposes) go with Google.

    I love excel myself, but thats just me.
     
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  13. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    Yeah the Sucks and Hopslam is being consumed as we speak lol. I know not to hang onto ipas very long. Im not really worried about tracking those, they will be gone before the spreadsheet is started and filled out.
     
  14. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    Thanks. Yeah excel seems to be the tool thats used by alot of people and im definitely going to use excel. Im just trying to find what i should be recording in excel. What are the key most important details about a beer that should be recorded. So far ive got

    Brewery, Beer Name, Style, ABV, Size, Quantity, Bottled Date, Location, Notes
     
  15. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
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  16. Moose90

    Moose90 Nov 25, 2012 Washington
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    Purchase date. Price. in addition to what you have there. Don't want to have too much to look at, but want to cover all of your bases.
     
  17. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    Perfect! Thank you.
     
  18. OnWisconsin

    OnWisconsin Aug 14, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Just made an excel sheet that has drop down menus. I can have the column I need/want. I also have it so it totals the amount of beers I have and how much $ is sitting in my cellar....I just laugh at that number and wonder how that happened!
     
  19. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Keeping track is super lame. Finding forgotten beer is one of the true joys of cellaring.
     
  20. Ish1

    Ish1 Feb 25, 2010 Minnesota
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    It's also super lame to find yourself drinking soy sauce because you forgot about that bottle of Abyss for a few too many years. Cellaring isn't a science, but there is definately benefits to being organized. Guess it depends on ones personality. What is lame to you is probably not lame to me and vice versa.
     
  21. fredmugs

    fredmugs Aug 11, 2012 Indiana
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    A bigger joy is finding one you forgot to track.
     
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  22. YoDude

    YoDude Nov 21, 2008 Illinois
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    Make sure you are storing it properly; upright and in a cool place where the temperature does not fluctuate more than 15 degrees (60 degrees would be the high end in my opinion). Even better if you can use an old fridge and control the temperature. As your cellar grows, you will need to be more efficient in tracking your beer. Think about how you will want to drink your beer. Will it be by age, style, brewer? That is the information you want to be able to search, sort or filter on. When you get to a larger collection, location will be another important variable; shelves, boxes, closets. A spreadsheet should work just fine for you right now. You can always import your cellar list to an on-line tool later. Most important is to drink your beer and share with friends. Enjoy your new hobby and passion!
     
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  23. xanok

    xanok Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
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    My cellar is approximately 120 bottles, and the only thing I use is a label maker for the "bottled on" date, or the purchased date if the bottling date is not available.
     
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  24. Andygirl

    Andygirl Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    Cellarhq.com here too. I still tag everything with date, where I bought it, etc. When it was 50 bottles tags were OK, 500+, tags aren't cutting it.
     
  25. tewaris

    tewaris Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    You should ask chussain
     
  26. EvoJoe

    EvoJoe Jan 19, 2013 North Carolina
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    That's a cellar I'd like to see! I need some inspiration and aspiration lol
     
  27. xanok

    xanok Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
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    Oddly enough I've never taken pictures of my cellar. This post has inspired me to do so. Pics to come tomorrow.
     
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  28. DmanGTR

    DmanGTR Feb 19, 2008 Florida
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    I used to keep a spreadsheet of my beer but it's gotten so out of hand and I'm too busy to maintain the documentation that I gave up after I exceeded 1200 bottles.
     
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  29. chanokokoro

    chanokokoro Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    Upright? Sorry, as far as lambics go I'll defer to how Cantillon, Drie Fonteinen, and every other Belgian lambic producer cellars their own bottles: horizontally. I cellar other styles as the brewer recommends, almost always vertically. Absent a brewer's recommendation to store otherwise, I cellar corked and caged American Wild Ale bottles horizontally as well and all other styles and all bottles that are capped only vertically.

    An Excel spreadsheet works perfectly for me.
     
  30. chanokokoro

    chanokokoro Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    The stringed tags you can buy at any office supply store (Staples, etc.) are great, although mine are handwritten. I mainly use my tags as indentification for my lambics, gueuzes, and American Wild Ales which I store horizontally. The tags prevent me from having to remove several bottles to find the one I'm looking for. Bottling date, etc. is detailed on my Excel spreadsheet only. The tag contains the name of the brew, the brewery, and the vintage.
     
  31. Stevedore

    Stevedore Nov 16, 2012 Wisconsin
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    1200 bottles, WTF kind of basement or space do you have these in??
     
  32. sommersb

    sommersb May 25, 2010 Tennessee
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  33. xanok

    xanok Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
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  34. tx_beer_man

    tx_beer_man Jan 22, 2013 Texas
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    This post is great. In the words of Charlie to Dennis on The D.E.N.N.I.S. System episode of Always Sunny, "Good. Very good. I'm learning a lot here."
     
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  35. YoDude

    YoDude Nov 21, 2008 Illinois
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    You make a very good point regarding brewer recommendations. I personally have never had a problem with my Lambics being stored vertically. Perhaps an experiment aging one vertically and one horizontally. I personally believe Lambics are quite resilient. I have a bottle of Lindeman's Framboise half full and re-corked using one of those wine vacuum cork thingys (which I would never do with my Lou Pepe). Still tastes great on it's own or blended with a Young's Double Chocolate stout. Go Hawks!
     
  36. davey101

    davey101 Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    I prefer this because I can use a macro to tell me how old my beers are to the day, its very customizable.
     
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  37. Johnnyramirez

    Johnnyramirez Nov 17, 2012 California

    I only have 40 cellarable bottles and 12 "drink fresh" bottles. I keep the cellarable ones in a list on my iPhone. Since I usually grab them on special occasions or to trade, I just open up my notepad and remove the bottles, add any new ones, and mainly drink my IPA's and Pale Ales with no regard to keeping track of those. Maybe when my cellar gets larger I'll use a better method. But this works for me easily. Plus if I'm away from a computer, I can easily just pull up my list without accessing google spreadsheets
     
  38. beercanman

    beercanman Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    I use the app on android called inmycellar. Very simple and I have it when I am shopping.
     
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