Sticker Shock at Beer Bars (Part Two)

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  1. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    I paid $11 for a 10oz but at a pretty upscale restaurant. I kind of want to go back and order it again but swipe the awesome old raspy glass it came it, then it would be worth it.
  2. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (465) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    And as long as you keep making this excuse for bars charging too much for beer, they will continue to do so. The premium most certainly is NOT minimal compared to most nice establishments in major cities in the U.S. Even at the high end of the retail price scale for NYC, it's a 75% markup over retail, which means it's a much larger markup over what the bar actually paid for the beer.

    Rents are high in a lot of places. Just because something is in Manhattan doesn't mean the rent is higher there than at a bar in Dupont Circle in DC, or Rittenhouse in Philadelphia, or at any other location in any other big city where high-income residents live.
  3. WestCoastBrew2

    WestCoastBrew2 Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2011 Vermont

    Went to a pizza place affiliated with SF beer week and ordered a 500ML bottle of PTE - was shocked at the $15 per bottle price tag after looking at the bill. I live in northern California so I regularly pick up bottles of PTE for around $5 at local shops.
  4. BrettHead

    BrettHead Devotee (478) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska

    Everything they bottle is BA :-)
  5. dar482

    dar482 Poo-Bah (3,476) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    I have yet to go to the "bar" Whole Foods at Columbus Circle in NYC, but it seems to look really nice.

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  6. weltywm

    weltywm Disciple (362) Jul 27, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Stuff you like is always going to be expensive, especially if you are into the "craft" of anything: coffee, cars, food, beer, wine, clothes, travel, etc. If you think that the thing is worth it, you'll spend your money on it and be happy. If you don't think it's worth it, then you don't have to spend your money on it.
  7. Bejam813bucs

    Bejam813bucs Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2011 Florida

    Had a Sculpin on draft at some beer bar in Lutz Fl & it was $8.03 Had the same beer for $2 less at the mermaid the week before.
  8. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    No happy hours around these parts :slight_frown:

    sure, I can get $2 off some nachos. But no beer discounts :slight_frown:
  9. Tiger33

    Tiger33 Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 North Carolina

    There's a restaurant in Greenville, SC that has bombers of Southern Tier Chokolat for $30, Allagash Curieux for $40 and Foothills Torch Pilsner for $18. At least they were pouring pints of Duck Rabbit MS for only $5.50.
  10. Newbiebeer

    Newbiebeer Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2012 Connecticut

    Recently paid $9.50 for an 8oz pour of Bourbon County at the local watering hole. Was expecting $7ish as I buy single 12oz bottles for $6.

    On the flip side, I paid $3 for two 12oz bottles of DFH World Wide Stout. Originally $9 each. Thank you poorly trained cashier for ringing them up as budweisers or something :slight_smile:
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  11. dar482

    dar482 Poo-Bah (3,476) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    New Yorker here. Paid $9.50 for for 5 oz. pour. Bottles sell for $8.

    Consider yourself lucky.
  12. Newbiebeer

    Newbiebeer Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2012 Connecticut

    Yikes. 5oz pour? I've never even seen such a thing :grimacing:
  13. dar482

    dar482 Poo-Bah (3,476) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    It's 15% so I guess that's fine.
  14. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
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    You've never seen a taster pour? (5oz is on the big side, but most beer bars around here have 3-5oz taster pours available of anything they sell.)
  15. Newbiebeer

    Newbiebeer Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2012 Connecticut

    I didn't know we were talking about samples. I was referring to actually buying a 5oz pour!
  16. mellowmark

    mellowmark Aspirant (263) Mar 31, 2010 Minnesota
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    Damn. That BCBS is cheaper than store price.
  17. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    But the bottles are reuse able so they shouldn't be factored in.
  18. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
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    No, I mean most beer bars (around here) will sell taster / sampler pours. (You can also usually get "a taste" to help decide what you want, but that's generally going to be 1oz or so.)
  19. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    I know my new beer bar strategy. Play dumb and ask for a taster of something I know I like, that way I get an extra 1-2 ounces for the same price!
  20. ColonelCash

    ColonelCash Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2011 Tennessee

    I'm thinking Rogue XS at my local Flying Saucer is somewhere in the $24 range. It's over $20, I know for a fact because I asked the waitress and she responded with "oh, its more than $20". No thank you.
  21. Boilerfood

    Boilerfood Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2012 Indiana

    Yup, I brought this to the GMs attention, and she just looked at me like I have 3 heads and responded "But it's from the Midwest." At that point I figured I should just shut up and order a second.
  22. jacewg

    jacewg Defender (610) Jan 7, 2012 District of Columbia

    To me, this discussion goes beyond just sticker shock at a bar. As a beer buyer, I'm starting to get distributor sticker shocker. Prices keep increasing and new beers hitting the market are more expensive than ever. For instance, the new Sierra Nevada/Dogfish Rhizing Bines is the same price for a sixtel as Parabola. On what planet should a double IPA cost as much as a world-class barrel aged stout?

    If a distributor increases the cost of a keg by $15-20, I'm forced as an on-premise seller to increase my cost per pour as well. It is expensive to drink craft beer in DC. However, a number of the craft beer bars here really embrace happy hour. Half price drafts, $4 drafts, etc. It helps offset the prices we're becoming forced to charge.
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  23. Newbiebeer

    Newbiebeer Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2012 Connecticut

    Just remembered another: I was at a restaurant in Hartford and ordered a 750ml Rogue Morimoto Imperial Pilsner. $25. Bought it in store the next week for $12.

    How much is the Rhizing Bines selling for? Ive been looking for it.
  24. Kumicho

    Kumicho Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin

    When I lived just outside of NYC a decade ago, I had an $20 (gross) hamburger at TGI Fridays just off of Times Square. Burgers and a couple beers each with the GF (now wife) would *easily* hit $80.I shudder to think what the prices are now, but then again that's part of why I'm so happy living in WI (that, and the beer is better). Rent's expensive, staff are expensive, liquor licenses are expensive, but most of all, people are willing to pay it.
  25. BigGene

    BigGene Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2010 Florida

    RedLight Redlight here in Orlando had a 4 year vertical of Ten Fidy, 08-12 they wanted $60 for it..... I had to think hard,,, not long but hard... SOOOOOLD
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  26. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Got a 750ml for $16 in Boston...not worth it
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  27. BKBassist

    BKBassist Devotee (434) Jan 24, 2013 New York

    Burgers and beers for $80? Did you think the only burgers available was at Minetta Tavern or the Breslin? I live here now, and eat out in hipster Brooklyn\LES\Villiage all the time and have plenty of very good meals for two (with beers) in the $50 ballpark.
  28. Hoptimus-Prime

    Hoptimus-Prime Disciple (339) Dec 7, 2012 North Carolina
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    I stopped into Ynot pizza for lunch today...was rather dissapointed when I saw the only had local brews on tap...even more so when I saw the check and realized they charged me $7 a peice. Also was served with frosted glasses as well :/
    A little closer to home there's a bar I love going to, $5 craft brew pints(Bell's,Green Flash,Great Divide,southern tier...ect), $3 domestics. Even a "holla holla only 2 dolla" menu lol.
  29. Lars3

    Lars3 Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2009 Connecticut

    Holy Christ!! I was annoyed by the $12ish I paid for Voodoo Doughnut at a local bottle shop a few weeks ago. And that was the expensive bottle shop.
  30. BKBassist

    BKBassist Devotee (434) Jan 24, 2013 New York

    I dunno if this is common elsewhere, but the NYC in thing for beer bars is the combo bottle shop\on premise type place. Top Hops, Bierkraft, Bruekelen Bier Merchants, Brouwerji Lane, Good Beer (although they don't let you pop bottles in the store, only taps). Some charge a buck or two to open a bottle in the shop, but it still beats the $30-$40 charges I've seen for large format bottles at places that are purely bars. And not having liquor means they can purchase a cheaper license. Seems to be the wave of the future to me.
  31. Lars3

    Lars3 Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2009 Connecticut

    As a former bartender at said establishment I just want to point out that not ALL draughts are half off during Happy Hour, but the majority certainly are.
  32. TheBoog013

    TheBoog013 Aspirant (240) Feb 24, 2011 California

    This is because Whole Foods also distributes A TON of beers and so they don't mark up kegs they sell to themselves. As Distributors, they have no problem tacking on $60-$100 for the Bar Wholesaler to swallow.

  33. atomic

    atomic Disciple (328) Sep 22, 2009 Illinois
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    Paid $10 for 10oz of BCBS Cherry Rye just now. Worth it.
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  34. fernz18

    fernz18 Initiate (172) Feb 6, 2009 California
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    $16.00 for a 500ml bottle of Pliny the Elder in Santa Barbara, CA.
  35. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

  36. Outbespoken

    Outbespoken Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2012 Indiana

    What bar?
  37. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    Does... not compute... why is Black Ops the same price as BCBCS when it costs $5-$10 more.

    *gasp* At Voodoo Donut. You just know some Joe Six Pack is gonna pay that though.
  38. CKYnick01

    CKYnick01 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2013 Delaware

    I agree It doesnt and $36 for Dogfish Faithfull, Is it just me or since that brew was made in 2011, dont you think it would have lost some of its original flavor by now?

    Plus its $36 for a Dogfish Etrusca, whyyyyy would I pay that when they are still on the shelves @ 12 ?
  39. smutty33

    smutty33 Zealot (585) Jun 12, 2009 Connecticut
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    I know Lars,this is Jim'd say over 90% are avail. for HH.
    I gotta get over to the meatball house.You still working there?Same happy hour right?

  40. spookyspeeg

    spookyspeeg Initiate (150) Feb 18, 2013 Connecticut

    I live in CT as well and was happy to see not only the smaller (more affordable) bottles on this years release but the local bars keeping the price standard.
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