Belgium stickies

Discussion in 'Europe' started by Morningstorm, Feb 27, 2013.

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  1. Morningstorm

    Morningstorm Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2011 Netherlands

    Hi guys,

    Everytime I browse this subforum, I see the same questions being asked again and again. There are probably 3 questions that are asked every week:

    1. How and where do I get Westvleteren and how do I get those reservations?

    2. Which breweries / bars in Belgium are a must to visit?

    3. Where do I find the Belgium whales and are they available for take-out?

    I think all of those questions are answered more than once. For example: Brabander wrote an excellent piece about Westvleteren, how to get there, how to make reservations and some other tips and tricks. The second question is asked numerous times and being answered a lot.

    Would it be a good idea just to make like 1-2 stickies with this information? I'd be up for the task.


  2. Ruds

    Ruds Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2008 United Kingdom (England)

    certainly a good idea but i doubt it will stop the question being asked, human nature dictates people like to boast/share about their upcoming plans so when a us beer geek takes the pilgramage to Belgium theyre gonna let you know about it regardless of stickies/ptevious posts!!!
  3. Brabander

    Brabander Initiate (0) Oct 10, 2009 Netherlands

    Ordering the beer is one of the most difficult things to do. If you have made the appointment the rest is easy!

    First check if they are open and when you can try to order the beer:

    You will need a telephone with the number recognition ON. If the monks can not see your number they will not answer the call...

    Sometimes it takes several hours to get trough. Be patient and keep trying.
    Most of the time you will get a Belgian lady from the phonecompany who tells you lines are busy

    Then, with luck, you are trough! The phone can ring several times, up to a minute, before they pick up the phone. The monk (or a civilian) will ask you for your licenceplates.
    If you don't have this info because you are coming with a rentalcar you can tell him that. Then he will ask for your name. After that he will give you the date when you can pick up the beer.
    This will be one of the dates you see on the site.

    By car: Going with a car i recomment a car with satnav....
    By train: From Brussels the best abbey to visit with public transportation is the abbey of Saint Sixtus in Westvleteren. You can take the train from Brussels to Poperinge.
    This is the timetable for the trains:
    By train/bike: The best thing you can do is rent a bike near the trainstation of the city Poperinge. There are busconnection but they are very irregular.

    This is a bike rental: (they are closed on sundays!!)

    This is another rental possibility:

    You can ask for a route map and then you can bike very easily to the abbey. Cafe in de Vrede is open on saturday's and sundays. But the best thing is always to check the site:

    You can actually go inside the abbey and see the monks in pray in the chapel. You don't have to pray with them but it is very special to see how this goes. You can walk trough the abbey to the chapel and after that you can walk back.

    These are the times they pray:

    The best time to go there is the 'sext' at 12.15 and the 'noon' at 14.15 hours.

    What you must do is go to the entrance about ten minutes before the prayers start. This is the entrance:

    Just ring the bell there and tell the monk who opens the door you want to go to the prayers. They will ask you to put out all cellphones. It is not allowed to make film or photo's.

    It is not possible to visit the brewery but here are the pictures i made when i was invited there:

    From october 2012 on you can buy sixpacks of Westvleteren 12 at the abby itself. At the beerpickuppoint you can buy two sixpacks of the 12 for 20 euro each or two sixpacks with two small chalices for 24,50 euro each.

    If you have enough time i would suggest to visit the Struise Brouwers in Oostvleteren. This is a 20 minutes bikeride from the abbey to their headquarters. They are mostly open on the saturdays from 14.00 till 18.00 hours.

    Here are the pictures i made from my visits to them:

    Good luck if you want to go.

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  4. Morningstorm

    Morningstorm Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2011 Netherlands

    Hmm, valid point. Still, I think it's a good idea.

    So the next question is, who has the rights here to make a sticky, I guess the bro's and a couple admins? Does this subreddit has his own admin?
  5. MrKennedy

    MrKennedy Savant (903) Dec 29, 2006 Australia
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