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Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by sandiego67, Mar 15, 2013.
How much? you know, you do live in Brooklyn...
It's been at least $10 everywhere I've seen it in Brooklyn.I'm sure 4pks would be at least $15 here, but I'd still buy the fuck out of it, even at that price.
Are you sure? Stone seems to have had some success with it: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/147/90
Nugget market in Elk Grove, Ca...5.99
Definately has sour-deisel on my palate..go green bottle is a keeper. Fresh is best for IPA's and this one has the mark of the beast.cheers!!
for like two bucks more you can get a sixer of lagunitas sucks.
Buy the lagunitas.
I disagree. I'm not a big fan of Ruination but the one bottle of Enjoy By that I had, 12.21.12, was fantastic and I even had it past the date in early Jan.
I'll be picking up a few of the 04.20.13 today since it's back in MO.
I haven't had the 4-20, but, imo, the 4-1 is better than any 1 day old or 100 day old Ruination I've tasted (10th anny is another story). I respect that others disagree for sure, but to call it overrated because it's a little harder to get is hogwash. It's a very fine beer.
edit: Dang, Beermein beat me by a minute.
I'm not a big stone fan at all, but 4-1 was a really good dipa it's not over hyped
man, this bottle is going to fucking fly, just for the collectibility.
Suxs 2 B U
What sucks here is not all releases have enough local distribution.
Not overhyped at all ... it's an excellent beer.
With a name like "Stone", they SHOULD be sucessful at smoking anything!
Can someone explain to me what a ticker is and how it relates to beer?
Hitting KCMO tomorrow.
See "why is it bad to be a ticker" on Recent Beer Talk
Hard to get? No
Bad ? Yes
[qI don't rememberI don't rememberote="beerindaglass, post: 1104601, member: 719514"]I haven't had the 4-20, but, imo, the 4-1 is better than any 1 day old or 100 day old Ruination I've tasted (10th anny is another story). I respect that others disagree for sure, but to call it overrated because it's a little harder to get is hogwash. It's a very fine beer.
edit: Dang, Beermein beat me by a minute.[/quote]
I don't remember saying it was over rated because it was hard to get.
They must be charging the shit out of it where-ever-the-hell you live. It's $5.50 to $6 for a bomber here in San Diego. For a DIPA that has a perfect malt body, loaded with juicy hops and is fresh as hell...it's a great deal. What exactly did you not like about it? Some people think hops can be 'soapy', but I haven't picked that note up out of any of the releases. Of which I think I've had bottles/draft from 4 of them.
While I'm no fan of Stone's beer as a whole, I do love this one and buy bottles whenever I see them.
Steelers, why did you join this thread? To let all of the Enjoy by enjoyers know that they were wasting their money or to bitch about an old batch of Ruination you grabbed last year.
Btw, a bomber of Ruination in Pensacola is 10 bucks and a 4 pack is 13. That's a F'n overated ripoff. But I wouldn't tell a fan of the beer that.
I guess you fail to understand what a discussion forum is. Most do when someone disagrees with their opinion.
I was stating what another person posted what they paid which was $9.
I paid 6.99 and thought it was a below average IPA but I guess I have no right state my opinion in a thread discussing beer
I never said I grabbed an old ruination.
I can educate you on bottle dates if you like
I guess the hype masters Stone brewing have simply taken the little bottle date and made it huge.
Great job stone.
blue = neutral, throwaway crap, close to whiny but still not wrong
green = you're right
orange = ????
red = you're in the wrong; stone is doing something good highlighting freshness. also, many people love the beers--and not because of "hype". this is not refuted by the fact that you didn't like the beer, which everyone involved ought to realize is stupid to argue about.
again, i can see not feeling too positive about enjoy by if
1) it simply isn't to your tastes (they use a lot of hops that some people really hate despite most people loving, e.g. citra)
2) the bottles in their area are overpriced ($10 for example is way too much)
3) they are in the distro area of superior hoppy pale ales, e.g. VT beers, a lot of cali beers, i suspect some oregon beers, some colorado beers definitely, etc.
however, if (1), (2), and (3) don't apply--and they don't in *a lot* of places in america--enjoy by is worth a few extra bucks, and is actually kind of a big deal to find in your local bottleshop. additionally, highlighting freshness (whether it makes you feel all sad because it's gimmicky or not) should have practical effects on beer marketing, production, and distribution--effects that are good for literally everyone involved.
edit: p.s. for anyone following along that's interested in arguments and assertions or whatever, i want to emphasize that i am asserting as objective fact that enjoy by "is good." you may not like the recipe, but i know enough about beer (ie have drank enough different beers) to know that stone packs in more hop aroma and flavor than most brewers do with their IPAs; it's a well-brewed IPA. i'm not saying this as opinion, like "i like how stone does IPAs," i'm saying "look at this, they've come up with a way--both in their brewing and their marketing/distribution--to get really fresh hop flavor and aroma, along the lines of the better wet hop beers, and other standouts like drake's, odell, etc." not a very interesting distinction to most, but who knows.
Glad to see Vegas finally get some love for this. I enjoyed 4/1/13 when it hit the Detroit area and would like to try it again, but not a priority with Founders Double Trouble coming out soon.
it may be overhyped, but the 4.1.13 I've tried have been awesome ...
is it much better than Stone IPA? I honestly can't say yet. Need to compare that closely. I've also not tried Ruination yet, so I can't speak on that comparison. I will say the one Stone IPA I had was pretty damn good. But the very first 4.1.13 I had might've been the wildest pour I've yet seen ... it percolated in the tulip ... what a show! And the taste sold me on the American DIPA.
Whiny? I don't really care enough to whine.
I got a like on my post and a long response I can't even get through
I would rather have a bottled on date than an enjoy by date.
Fresh Ruination blows Enjoy by out of the water
Fresh heady beats them both
C'MON! To brag about getting it at $5.50 when it's brewed in your backyard is just plain cruel! I live 2hrs north and pay $6.99/bomber...obviously the further you get from SD, the more you're going to pay.
Maybe not the most overhyped but the 4/1/13 was absolutely underwhelming. Perhaps the 4/20 will be different.
I vote for a name change to this beer since it is the same recipe and the only thing that changes is the date...I feel it should actually be given a name instead of a date
no...they have been the same recipe since the first batch..I asked the Stone Rep that question and he said no changes..That's the reason I haven't run to the store to buy it..It is a great beer..just want to try new beers
I'm not a fan of most Stone beers and even think Ruination is forgetable, but Enjoy By blows me away. Had it at the GABF, then the bottles that came out right after and now the 4/20. Its everything a double IPA should be in my opinion. Crisp, amazing hop nose and full of hop flavor. Just enough malt to support it (which is one of my gripes with their regular IPA - it lacks any malt backbone at all).
Luckily for the thousands of breweries making beer there are many different palates out there.
I'm pretty sure I paid $7.00 at the brewery.
i think a lot of people are confusing hype with a pretty brilliant marketing strategy from stone
Paid 7.50 and picked up a bottle yesterday. Crushed it. It was awesome.
i bought both.
Cases sat around? Dats crazy!
I just finished a Bomber of this, one of my favorites. But with the South Park Store only a couple minutes away it makes it really easy for me to get really fresh. And it is $7 per so I have no problem with it considering some of the prices on other beers that I have seen.
Just found out about this and cast my vote, lets get this stuff in Florida.
I don't think I've seen it here in SAC and I was at the Nugget in W Sac a couple days ago.BUT I did go to Boneshaker last night and although I tried a couple other beers all I drank was the BB 4-21.Great taste and excellent aroma.$6 for a 13 oz pour is not bad.I've always liked Ruination and used to think $6-7 was high for a bomber until everyone else started going $7-8-9 and up.But last week I had some and it just wasn't as good as I recall.
I bought 2 bombers at 5.99 apiece and it was was awesome and well worth it.
A lot of the stores in Sac just got it in late in the week so be patient. I have seen it all over this weekend.