Storm Brewing's The Mad Scientist & the $1000 Bottle of Beer

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  1. LennyOvies

    LennyOvies Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2015 Mexico

    Well, the beer itself is not very overpriced since putting the bottle aside it's not such an exorbitant number. (Even though I wouldn't pay $40 for 500ml of beer anyway).

    And I don't think we are missing a point here. I know that everyone mocking it, including myself, are not the intended market for the bottle+beer; there will be people buying this stuff. But that doesn't stop me from laughing at it.
  2. Donco

    Donco Devotee (470) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Talk about a bottle I'd never open....:grimacing:
  3. beerluvr

    beerluvr Meyvn (1,220) Jan 2, 2001 Canada

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  4. deadsincebirth

    deadsincebirth Initiate (136) Jul 24, 2014 Illinois

    The fact is that this beer is actually cheaper than Rare...
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  5. BradenMK

    BradenMK Aspirant (279) Sep 24, 2012 Alaska

    The beer itself does sound really, really good though. Probably worth the price of a growler fill.
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  6. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 California

    I'll pass, way out of my budget, my wife would probably divorce me for spending $1000 on one beer!
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  7. JonnyBeers

    JonnyBeers Disciple (355) Oct 24, 2012 Canada

    $900 for a flip top bottle (one that I happen to think is kinda ugly) seems ridiculous. I've had the beer before, it's ok, not anywhere near as good as Utopias. And I find it hard to believe this one is over 15-20%. A little misleading to call this an expensive beer. It's just the bottle. For the claimed abv content that's a reasonable price for growler fills. Small bottles meant for cellaring seem like they would be a better fit.
  8. BradenMK

    BradenMK Aspirant (279) Sep 24, 2012 Alaska

    Yeah, I can't believe they're calling the bottles works of art. They are boring, standard flip-top bottles. I get that they were handblown, that's great, but they were clearly designed for function over form. The mammoth pendants are cool, yes, now that's certainly where the price tag comes in. But they just draped them over the bottles... Not a presentation win in my book. I'd buy the beer, and if I were a collector of weird artifacts I'd probably be interested in the pendants made from 35,000 yr old mammoth bones, sure. But I can't really imagine any version of reality where I'd want to buy all of this packaged together for $1000. It doesn't really make any sense.
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  9. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Defender (675) Nov 3, 2014 Alabama

    feels like somebody trying to take advantage of people, I'm sure it's a great beer, and I'm sure the bottle is largely responsible for the cost but really? is this really necessary?
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  10. vabeerguy

    vabeerguy Poo-Bah (3,058) Sep 21, 2015 Virginia
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    I hear you. I am in the same boat. The only thing I have going for me is that my wife's wine bill is generally higher than my beer bill.
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  11. kcherney

    kcherney Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2014 Canada

    Agree with Jonny. The beer is alright. I had 1 oz as part of a flight for a special event, will not be bothering with even the growler fill.
  12. GothGargoyle

    GothGargoyle Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2011 Canada

    No, "umami" is not a buzzword. It is a well-defined taste, like "bitter" or "sour" which are also very relevant to beer. Many beers have this savoury taste and mouthfeel which is perfectly described by "umami".
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  13. raynmoon

    raynmoon Champion (804) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Fixed that for ya.
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  14. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Disciple (311) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    Its odd to me that mammoth ivory would make this beer so expensive my mom was a luthier at a violin bow shop in the 80's (pre ivory ban) and they used to use ivory on the frogs and bows they switched to bone and other materials post ban but on occasion would use mammoth ivory. Now prices vary but the raw material to make pendenats like that couldn't have been more than $100-$200 dollars at the the most and if your smart you can do more than one bottle out of the ivory. So let's say they spent $150 a piece for 5 decent pieces of mammoth ivory around $750 for all ten bottles and let's say that each glass bottle on its own with no ivory is worth $250 (which is generous in my opinion considering what glass art and hand made glasses/bottles usually fetch) so we're at $2500 + $750 = $3250. Lets round that up to $3500 to give them benefit of the doubt. So far that means the bottles with labor and material alone are about $350 a piece to make. Now on top of that each bottle has retail $80 worth of beer. So let's say the bottle on its own has a retail price of $700 that's a 100% profit margin plus the $80 retail of beer is $780 which we can round again up to $800.

    Somehow even with all my rounding and generous estimates I couldn't make this bottle cost a thousand dollars I came in $200 dollars under. I say this is a clear rip off, this man is indeed mad! a scientist? Of sorts perhaps but mostly just insane.

    Edit: this is figured in USD and the $1000 referred to in the OP is canadian dollars which is about ยข75 to 1 USD. So I was right and wrong at the same time.
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  15. ccg

    ccg Devotee (432) May 11, 2015 District of Columbia

    Pass. It's like when the scotch makers got into a war over who could make the most expensive bottle of scotch -- you can't make a 100-year-old barrel of scotch appear out of thin air, so they just started putting old scotch into super-expensive crystal decanters (that $55,000 bottle of scotch was mostly for the bottle). Same thing with that bar in NYC (if I remember correctly) that was bragging about selling the world's most expensive cocktail, but all they were doing was mixing up a pretty standard martini or whatever and then dropping a diamond into the glass. $10 worth of alcohol + $990 worth of packaging and gimmicks.

    I buy beer to drink and to share, not to collect like art. Empty bottles go in the recycling bin.
  16. Raime

    Raime Meyvn (1,335) Jun 4, 2012 Greenland


    FT one Seagrams wine cooler.
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  17. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Poo-Bah (2,280) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut
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    If everyone in this thread chips in a couple gas money...
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  18. jcos

    jcos Aspirant (214) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    In fact, the idea of "umami" predates the idea of "hipster"....
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  19. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Aspirant (204) Sep 16, 2015 Canada

    It'd be fun to refill! But yeah, like I said previously if I was into art I'd go for it, but I'm not. People spend $1000 on a purse and other dumb things too, it's a luxury item for sure. Heck Starbucks is selling a $200 Starbucks card with crystals on it and $50 pre-loaded. It's that time of year...
  20. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Aspirant (204) Sep 16, 2015 Canada

    At the ABV, it's spirit priced, not beer priced which is fair.
  21. DVMin98

    DVMin98 Poo-Bah (3,379) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
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    ISO: $1000 Glacial Mammoth Extinction FT: Rare '15 w/ box
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  22. dcotom

    dcotom Poo-Bah (2,564) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    If money was no object, I'd be on this in a New York minute. Not for the beer, but for the uniqueness of the hand-blown bottle and the ivory medallion. They look very impressive to me. Much better than a stuffed stoat, anyway.
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  23. Kappakoosh

    Kappakoosh Disciple (314) Dec 26, 2013 Texas

    I might consider it if the ivory tusk was inside the bottle with the beer along with an albino cobra.
  24. PuckIt

    PuckIt Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2014 Pennsylvania

    This is obviously just an attempt to draw attention to the brewery. I'd be willing to bet they don't really care whether this sells or not. It's getting the attention they are in search of.
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  25. threedaggers

    threedaggers Crusader (746) Dec 2, 2013 Kentucky

    Absurd. I'm waiting for someone to post this FT $4$
  26. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,463) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts

    You might be right, but I bet it will sell. Got the art thing going on, plus the play on rarity. It will sell. True high end, artificially created or not. I confess that I have paid good money for hand blown glass without beer inside.
  27. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Poo-Bah (2,497) Jan 31, 2005 California
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  28. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Poo-Bah (2,497) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    I'd like to try it.
  29. JonnyBeers

    JonnyBeers Disciple (355) Oct 24, 2012 Canada

    Like this post if you'd never heard of Storm :wink: So it seems like good marketing value so far. Actually if you're ever in Vancouver this is a MUST stop just for the experience. It's unique to say the least. Google a few pics of it and you'll see.
  30. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Poo-Bah (2,211) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    That sounds delicious and I'd love to try it, but there's no way I'd shell out that much money for it. :slight_frown:
  31. floridadrift

    floridadrift Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Florida

    I can't wait for a reasonable brewery to release this beer (especially, in a can, hell would freeze over) instead of a greedy, talented brewer, once again. (See Billionaire Jim Koch) Some awesome beer and awesome junk to go with a gimmick of a--holery, made by who cares. Bourbon County Rare is right over that line at $60, which I paid a couple of times recently and people have been chasing it at even higher price points. These people are trying to strangle their niche customers, the connoisseurs because we're kind enough to support them and wait in line.

    I don't home-brew but I'm in a great circle of guys that do and make great barrel-aged/spiral-aged product and it's not hard to make craft malt liquor on such a small scale like Storm Brewing's done. If you are intrigued by this, just buy a five gallon barrel and get with your local home-brew community or local brewery and tell them you want to front this experiment. Save your moneys for the good releases we can rely on by now. There's at least one great brewery in every state, if not more. Hopefully, we can show these brewers who think their shhh doesn't stink, by example, it's not cool charging insane amounts of money for beer.
  32. StJamesGate

    StJamesGate Poo-Bah (4,663) Oct 8, 2007 New York

    If only Storm were a better brewery to begin with...
  33. gopens44

    gopens44 Poo-Bah (2,362) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    Never heard of the word to describe beer until the last few years. To me, a buzzword is something that a large swath of people suddenly pick up on, thus making your eyes roll each time you hear it. I didn't say it wasn't a real word or descriptor.
  34. papat444

    papat444 Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2006 Canada

    Preposterous is the first thing that comes to mind. While the beer might be costly to make, you are clearly paying for the "work of art". Smacks of commercialism and illusions of grandeur. I've seen hand blown art for much less than that at artisan workers in VT. Thanks but no thanks Storm :stuck_out_tongue:
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  35. rgordon

    rgordon Meyvn (1,076) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    Mammoth price for mammoth beer. I'll bet that I would hate it.
  36. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Aspirant (204) Sep 16, 2015 Canada

    But this is Vancouver, people buy $5000 purses here.
  37. OldManMetal

    OldManMetal Devotee (487) Jun 5, 2015 North Carolina

    1. Pass.

    3. Dude looks like Larry David, which is really funny since the kind of person that would spend $1000 on a bottle of beer is exactly the kind of person that would set Larry off.
  38. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Aspirant (204) Sep 16, 2015 Canada

    They guy is quite hilarious

  39. hopley

    hopley Meyvn (1,295) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts

    I would buy a growler and then transfer it into much smaller containers, fill them up as high as possible to eliminate all oxygen, seal them as tightly as possible, and drink them over time. Even if they go flat, sounds like the type of beer where carbonation doesn't matter that much. I tried Sam Adams Utopia once at a beer fest and really liked it, but a couple sips, or a 3 - 5 oz. pour is about all I'd want at any particular sitting.
  40. rather

    rather Aspirant (202) May 31, 2013 California

    hit the nail dead on.
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