Strawberry off flavor in funky Saison

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  1. rmaste6282

    rmaste6282 Zealot (740) Apr 30, 2009 California

    So here is some background:


    Brewed a funky tart Saison with WLP 565 plus dregs of Sante Adairius, HF and Side Project, OG, 1.045, FG: 1.010. It sat for 3 weeks or so, then I split it into two 3 gallon carboys. At this point the beer was tasting great, and I wanted to fruit half of it. At that time I added 4lbs of fresh strawberries that I froze to one of the carboys. Today, 6 days later I smelled and tasted the strawberry one and it is getting the off flavor that I have seen from other strawberry american wilds. It is getting a plasticy/rubbery flavor and aroma.


    So, my question to you all is, what next? Should I leave it alone and taste every couple of weeks, add Brett C, add mixed culture of Lacto/Brett, Roselare? Trying to figure out how to save it, I can't stand this flavor/aroma in Brett beers and American Wilds.
     
    #1 rmaste6282, May 24, 2014
  2. hawkfarmorganic

    hawkfarmorganic Initiate (0) May 18, 2014 Maine

    Wondering the same thing. Going to attempt some fresh strawberry infused lacto
     
    #2 hawkfarmorganic, May 24, 2014
  3. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    These two statements confuse me.
     
    #3 sarcastro, May 24, 2014
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  4. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I say let it sit for a few months. Let the bugs metabolize those compounds out and clean things up.
     
    #4 hoptualBrew, May 24, 2014
  5. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I say on any wild beer, if you dont like it right now, and you dont need to free up space, let it ride.
     
    #5 sarcastro, May 25, 2014
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  6. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    It's just phenols from the Brett. Be patient.
     
    #6 jae, May 25, 2014
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  7. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    dump strawberries in there to cover up the off flavour
     
    #7 atomeyes, May 25, 2014
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  8. coryking

    coryking Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2008 Missouri

    Its the Strawberries. Every strawberry beer I have ever had, has had the exact same aggressive phenol that resembles tennis ball rubber and industrial cleaners...

    Might be something that not everyone picks up on though, based on reviews of some of these beers...
     
    #8 coryking, May 28, 2014
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  9. hawkfarmorganic

    hawkfarmorganic Initiate (0) May 18, 2014 Maine

    Might be the LAC resin some berries are covered with, if you insist it isn't the Brett. Try organic or farm fresh berries and see if there's a difference
     
    #9 hawkfarmorganic, May 29, 2014
  10. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,705) Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
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    This. Nearly every strawberry beer I've had his this plasticy/phenol character that tastes similar to the little strawberry seeds if you get one of those stuck in your teeth and then chew it individually. If strawberries are used, I think it need to be very sparingly, or you need to do something like use a juicer with a very fine filter that will remove the little seeds.
     
    #10 Thorpe429, May 29, 2014
  11. hawkfarmorganic

    hawkfarmorganic Initiate (0) May 18, 2014 Maine

    Night shift does an amazing strawberry lacto sour, ever weisse and is quite pleasing...not sure if they filter out the seeds or not...but there has to be a way to eliminate that smell
     
    #11 hawkfarmorganic, May 29, 2014
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  12. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I'm not sure if it comes from the strawberries or the Brett, but I do know Brett can produce plastic, rubbery phenols. I've had it in my Brett beers before. Unfortunately I'm not sure if it ever goes away
     
    #12 jamescain, May 30, 2014
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