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Sucaba/Barleywine Question

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by alysmith4, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. alysmith4

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    I finally able to try Firestone Walker's Sucaba last night, and loved it. (After "enjoying" enough of it, I was calling it "chupacabra" by the end of the night!)

    Anyway, before this, I thought I hated barleywines. My question is this: is Sucaba a good example of a barleywine, or is it just in a category of it's own? I know the best way to get an answer would be to try some other examples, but I don't want to start buying a bunch of barleywines only to find out I still don't like them.

    What say you?
     
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    It's an English Barleywine. American Barleywines are hoppier. I also love Sucaba. ;)
     
  3. Ravenacht

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    It is one of the best examples of an English Barleywine I have had also...simply outstanding.
     
  4. geocool

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    It definitely opened my eyes to a style I had previously dismissed. If there are others in its class I'd definitely like to know about it too.
     
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    It is also barrel aged which is not the case for most barleywines.
     
  6. 1up

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    Why were you calling it goatsucker? Just curious :)
     
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  7. Greywulfken

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    I am curious which barleywines you had that you didn't like...

    I concur that Sucaba is a superior barleywine of the sweet (English) kind. I have it as my highest rated barleywine of either kind, just barely ahead of the highly acclaimed King Henry.
     
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    King Henry, Leon, Many "Old Ales" (like Old Stock Ale, Curmudgeon, Hibernation). Anything labeled Old Ale or English Barleywine usually.
     
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    Sucaba, BBA Below Decks from Heavy Seas, Arctic Devil from Midnight Sun, BBA Devil's Milk from DuClaw, BBA Reserve Ale #3 from Cricket Hill...

    Arctic Devil is like crack.
     
  10. willbm3

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    I'm a Barleywine noob as well, but Sucaba is barrel aged which imparts alot of non-traditional Barleywine flavors. Also, it fucking rocks.

    Try SN Bigfoot. You can probably get it for relatively cheap so if you hate it you aren't out alot of $
     
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  11. geocool

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    So you're saying that "anything labeled Old Ale or English Barleywine" is in the same class as Sucaba? Disagree.
     
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    I second these statements.
     
  13. Duff27

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    Abacus/Sucaba are middle of the road BA English Barleywines. If you liked it then you should start exploring more of the style.
     
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    Whoops, I replied to the wrong message. More the category Sucaba is in, not the class.
     
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    Isn't Bigfoot more of an American style? I didn't care for it as much as Sucaba.
     
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    I am getting some of that crack tomorrow.
     
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  17. OddNotion

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    Yes, Bigfoot is an example of an American Barleywine.
     
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    Like x1000.
     
  19. Greywulfken

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    Yes, Bigfoot is an American style barleywine.

    Edit: @OddNotion: missed it by that much!
     
  20. sukwonee

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    If you enjoy Sucaba, you will also enjoy Mother of All Storms, BA Old Ruffian, BA Hi-Fi Rye, Arctic Devil, CW BBBW (with about a year on it), and I also hear King Henry is a good comparable - I have never tried a bottle of it yet though.
     
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    Try Pretty Things Our Finest Regards. For my money, it's the best non-BA English (edit: English-STYLE) barleywine I've had. And congratulations, you have just found the best beer style on earth.
     
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    Definitely agree with Our Finest Regards from Pretty Things. Fantastic beer!

    Central Waters Barrel Aged Barleywine is amazing too.
     
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    Anything by JW Lees. An English company that a makes a fantastic English Barleywine. Either go with the Harvest Ale or any of the barrel aged stuff. The bottles might give you a bit of sticker shock, but it is worth it. The best barleywine, american or.english that ive had. The bros rate it a perfect 100 and i agree with that. Aside from that, Nogne 0 "100" and Djaevlebryg Old Mephisto are also really good.
     
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    I need to amend my previous post-just remembered that Xyauyu series, JW Lees, and Thomas Hardy's all rank above Our Finest Regards for me. You should give all of these a try (except Xyauyu-it was a bit rich for my blood at $40/500ml until I had been in the barleywine game for a while).
     
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    I adore Abacus (opened 2 of the current bottles already) and have some stocked away. What others similar beers are there that are better? ???? I've had mother of all storms too.
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    thanks in advance
     
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    Very good beer, but substantially different from other EBWs, even BA ones.
     
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    Sucaba is so good... For $15 it's very affordable for a once a month thing...
     
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  28. Brew33

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    Sucuba is a great beer. That being said, it's incredibly barrel forward. Maybe try some non-barrel aged English Style Barleywines to get a better feel for the style. I certainly don't think "Sucuba" when I think of the style.
     
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    I can only hope the new owners of the Thomas Hardy brand will make a BBA version.
     
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    Be sure to try Cockeyed Cooper. It's a barrel-aged, malt-forward American-style barleywine, but to me it is very similar to Sucaba.
     
  31. Gotti311

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    Try and get someone in WI to trade you for some CW BBBW. I had that and Arctic Devil on back to back weekends and while both were truly mind blowing, I favored the CW version by a pinch.

    Non-BA BW that I have really enjoyed this year are AleSmith Old Numbskull and Rogue Old Crustacean (it was a 2010 bottle though)
     
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    Sucaba is by far my favorite barley wine so far. If it's middle of the road, what do you recommend?
     
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    That beer was nowhere near as complex and tasty as Abacus. I was pretty dissapointed by that one.

    If you want good English Barlewines try MoaS, King Henry, Naked Evil, or Bligh's.
     
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    You started out on top. Now you can quit drinking beer and move on to hard lemonade.
     
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    Weyerbacher Insanity is the closest thing I've had to Sucuba, and damn good too.
    Pick it up if you can find it, you'll love it if you liked Sucuba.
     
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    Highwater Old and in the Way is a great example. A portion of it is barrel aged, Deschutes style.
     
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    Seriously.
     
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    Eladio Vuente?
     
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    While not an English Barleywine, I don't know if it gets any better for my money than the newest release of Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Barleywine.

    Also, once you've had King Henry, it's all downhill. But I'd love to be proved wrong!
     
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    You can't exactly go out and pick up a King Henry though...
     
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