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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by alysmith4, Mar 26, 2013.
How has BB4D not been mentioned? Oi vey.
Likely the best, and my most favorite, brew of all timez.
I recently tasted several barleywines side by side, and I liked them all, but thought the Sucaba was just a little too boozy for me. Flavor was good, don't get me wrong; I just prefer a little less of the boozy heat.
Sucaba is a fine take on an English Barleywine that has been aged in a whiskey barrel. There are others that have the same level of quality (King Henry, Bligh’s, MOAS, etc.) – but be fully aware that you’re unlikely to find (m)any that are better. You’re far more likely to find one that isn’t in the same league.
Some that ARE as good need some additional time as well. For instance, IMO the one from Hoppin’ Frog was VERY hot when it first came out, but with some time it has become terrific.
If anything, it's a style that can be very right or very wrong depending on a little time.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Victory's Oak Horizontal - Barrel-Aged English style Barleywine...It's the second best of this style I've had...only to Sucaba of course. CW BA Barleywine is 3rd in my book.
I liked it, too. I do remember some people hinting on the Mid-Atlantic board that there may have been some inconsistencies, or it wasn't that good when first released but got better, yada yada...but the one I got was really excellent. Not as great as Sucaba, but definitely worth trying.
English style, barrel aged... the irony is that I have this every year at the pub, I still to this day have never bothered with a bottle of it.
An easy great to get one, that isn't barrel aged is Old Foghorn from Anchor Steam. This never fails.
Also consider, Dominion Millenium, Duck Rabbit as well.
for the barrel aged consider
Heavy Seas varieties,
Weyerbacher Insanity (a personal fav)
Rip it up seriously... JW Lees out of the cask...
I think I like bigfoot more than most IIPA's. Mmmmm malt and hops.
sucaba is one of the best somewhat accessible barleywines. top of class is king henry. second is probably leon. but they're tough to get your hands on.
I know! And I had Sucaba and Leon last night! I suppose it's all downhill from here
Firestone Walker has it going on. They are a freak of brewing for those who want a great readily available fantastic Barrel Aged Barleywine...
Oh sure.... Bring Leon into it. Now I am really thirty!!!
FW has to be one of the only beers where their special releases are available everywhere easily except its home state. Getting a bottle of Parabola or something is annoying as hell here.
Try Alesmith Old Numbskull
another amazing bb barleywine is central waters. Their whole bour on barrel series is amazing as is but true;y unbeatable at the price they sell for
Darth I found CEC to be nothing like Sucaba IMHO it was as you said fairly malt forward for an American style but the hop finish just completely knocked it out of any comparable status to Sucaba. Also I found that the bourbon barrel character was very minimal in comparison being that it wasn't very up front. That along with the overall mouthfeel of CEC being thinner in my opinion makes for a difficult arguement that it is "very similar to Sucaba". I think CEC is good but not a fair comparison. Just my .02 cents
Man, that must be good if it ages you to thirty!
If you can find it near you, Anchor's Old Foghorn is a GREAT barleywine for the price. English style, lower abv (8%) makes it more drinkable than most BW out there.
Oak Horizontal is an American, although the hops are mild enough so as to distinguish it rather favorably from mpst other American barleywines out there. It also happens to be really good fresh, more so even than Sucaba IMO. However, right now year-old Sucaba is head and shoulders above every other barleywine. So good.
Big, sweet, bourbon barrel aged beers like Sucaba (barleywines, strong ales, old ales, whatever) are, for me, the pinnacle of beer (at least what I've had). Some of the best I've enjoyed:
Mother of All Storms
Fremont Bourbon Barrel Abominable aka B-bomb
Are you me?
Haha, why's that?
Interesting, I always thought I had tried this beer but now I'm not so sure. I'll have to look into getting a bottle.
Sucaba was a game changer for me as well. Hate barleywines, love Sucaba.
Still hate barleywines?
Insanity was really good as well, but I haven't found any others that I'd drink again.
Had my first Sucaba last night. Reminds me A LOT of BB4D. Absolutely delicious. Wow. I love BW/Old Ales already. This is probably the best alongside BB4D I've ever had.
So you're enjoying barrel aged english-style barleywines.
Insanity is good fresh, but really comes into being over 1-5 years imo.
I'd suggest Arcadia BA Cereal Killer and Hoppin' Frog BA Naked Evil when the opportunity presents itself.
I'm guessing you will enjoy these as well.
Mirror Mirror was my favorite and recently Deschutes informed me they are finally making it again. Currently barrel aging and will be ready for a 2014 release.
You need to try Hoppin Frog BA Naked Evil & CCB Warmer Winter Winter Warmer.
I guess I am ISO: of this now.
Sucaba is one of the best Bourbon Barrel Aged Barley Wines out there. IMO, the barrel aging changes Barley Wines more so than any other styles so much so that the profile of a BW is almost lost. I happen to be both a BW and BA BW lover but by no means would your high opinion of Sucaba mean you would like traditional BWs, like HoD Doggie Claws etc...
I would guarentee you would love some of these not too difficult to find brews: Arctic Devil, Central Waters BBBW, BA Numbskull, and BA Naked Evil. I'm guessing you are into Old Ales and Scotch ales as well like Backwoods Bastard, BA Big Sounds, etc... Similiar taste because the bourbon sweetness shines through and changes the liquid.
Yes, I got some SN Bigfoot, and didn't care for it. I was able to try the BA version at a bottle share though, and really enjoyed it!
Ps. FT: SN Bigfoot
Irony is that many of us don't even consider the hoppy bigfoot a BW, it's more like a DIPA. You will really dislike traditional american Barley Wines like Doggie Claws. More than happy to send you a bottle for tasting
Will you saunter down to the ATM machine and input your PIN number?
Well, that seems highly unnecessary.
Is Doggie Claws really hoppy?
It's one I'd like to try, but the Hair of the Dog stuff is hard to trade for.
No, it's a real BW. If you like Doggie Claws you are no longer beginner, straight expert mode. The guys that like Kunnenn 4D, and the other so called boozy stuff not covered my bourbon goodness.
Doggie's and the regular HoD stuff trades for locals.
this thread amuses me because I just gave a good friend (who's a real beer lover) a bottle of sucuba today... and he seemed unusually gunshy. He muttered something about not liking something similar that he tried recently... (couldn't get if it was also from firestone, or another barrel aged barleywine)
I'm now awaiting his sucuba review... everyone's palate is unique, but I'd be stunned if he didn't love it.