Tasting Uncarbonated Beer

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by BikingDutchman, Oct 17, 2012.

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  1. BikingDutchman

    BikingDutchman Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2012 Iowa

    I just bottled my first beer, and saved a glass of uncarbonated beer to taste just out of curiosity. The beer smelled really nice, and about how I expected it to. The taste was very different, though. Is this a good indicator of how my beer will taste after bottle conditioning, or will it change significantly after a week or so in the bottle?
     
  2. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    First q: Was the saved uncarbonated beer primed with sugar?
    If so, then yes, a lot of the sweetness you'll get will get gone.

    You'll also see changes from the carbonation itself, carbonic acid will sharpen the beer up, hop bitterness will pop more, hop aroma will drift away from "flowery" to the sharper tones like herbs, spice, citrus, etc. The body will pick up and seem less dense. In all, the beer will feel more lively and you'll understand why we spend so much time and energy on trying to capture it!
     
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  3. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    When I bottled my first beer it was a Stout kit. I was not happy with the flavor of the un-carbinated brew. I let the beer sit for a month then thought,"What am I going to do with 2 cases of crapy beer?" I thought I would have a after work party with my co workers. The beer was very good and I was sad that we demolished my whole batch. In my opinion beer always tastes better carbinated and even better after 8 weeks. Be patient Grasshopper!
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “In my opinion beer always tastes better carbonated and even better after 8 weeks.”

    +1 to that.

    Cheers!
     
  5. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,065) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Ever leave a portion of great beer out overnight and taste it after it loses carbonation?

    To answer your question: your beer will likely change significantly for the better after carbing.
     
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  6. BikingDutchman

    BikingDutchman Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2012 Iowa

    Yes, it was primed already. It was essentially what was going into the bottles, just poured into a glass and chilled instead. The beer didn't really have much sweetness and was really just bland. I also wanted more of the banana flavor that was in the aroma. (It was a dunkelwiezen) I understand that the body will change significantly because of the bottle conditioning, I just hope the flavor pops more as well. I guess only time will tell for sure, and I will just have to be patient... something very difficult to do on my first batch.
     
  7. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    some beers i make (many ales) test pretty good before carbing, you do get a pretty good idea what the beer will taste like. some beers (lagers) always taste awful until theyre carbed. this freaks me out every time. even though i know the beer will taste better in a week, i always worry that it wont. do as i say, not as i do.
     
  8. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    for a dunkelweizen, a lot of the banana flavor is generated by the carbonation pushing the flavor into your nose as you inhale and sip. remember that sense of smell and taste are very related. this is one area where i feel beer outperforms wine... the carbonation aiding in the flavor profile. i always find that undercarbonated beers, even if they taste good, still suffer a bit because the aroma is not as present. dont worry, be patient, you will be rewarded.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I just hope the flavor pops more as well.”

    The flavors will indeed ‘pop’ more in your carbonated beer. The CO2 coming out of solution in your beer (the bubbles rising in the glass) carry the flavors and aromatics of the beer. An interesting exercise to see how carbonation can impact flavor/aroma is to taste a hoppy beer that is served on regular draft and on cask. I once had a chance to drink two Troegs Nugget Nectar beers side by side where one was served on cask (low level of carbonation) and the other of regular draft (a higher level of carbonation). The draft Nugget Nectar had vibrant and expressive flavor/aroma from the late hops. The cask Nugget Nectar had a muted flavor/aroma but had a nice creamy mouthfeel.

    Cheers!
     
  10. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    The beer will be different carbonated. I find the effect is more pronounced in some styles vs. others.

    For me, wheat based beers are lame pre carb but really come alive post carb.
    Stouts and porters the difference is not so far apart.
     
  11. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Initiate (0) May 13, 2007 South Carolina

    Kind of like saying "I let some ice cream sit out until it melted and went to room temperature and it didn't taste as good."
     
  12. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Wow. I’m shocked that the post carbonation flavor is so unanimously favored amongst responses so far. I actually have preferred pre carb flavors on 95% of my homebrew to date. To each their own, I suppose!
     
  13. Ruslanchik

    Ruslanchik Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2008 Texas

    How long was your beer in the fermenter? What yeast did you use?

    I have used WLP300 for a few hefes and dunkels. The one time I got a really strong banana flavor was on a hefe that I fermented relatively warm (~75). This flavor was only really present when the beer was pretty green (2 weeks in the fermenter and ~5 days in the bottle).

    Your beer will definitely taste better after some time in the bottle. This doesn't have anything to do with the carbonation, really. Just the beer aging and the yeast doing what they do. I always save a few bottles from every batch to drink 6+ months later. These are inevitably better than the fresh beers. If only I had the patience to let them all sit.. (Some styles do not benefit from aging so ymmv.)
     
  14. BikingDutchman

    BikingDutchman Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2012 Iowa

    It was in the fermenter for 2 weeks and 5 days. I used Danstar Munich Wheat (dry yeast).
     
  15. Ruslanchik

    Ruslanchik Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2008 Texas

    FYI, in this thread, others report that that yeast doesn't give much clove or banana. I'm sure your beer will be delicious, though.
     
  16. BikingDutchman

    BikingDutchman Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2012 Iowa

    It's okay, being my first batch, I don't expect it to be perfect or even close.
     
  17. itsjustzach

    itsjustzach Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2006 Ohio

    Then why don't you just drink all of it that way?
     
  18. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Well, mainly because I'm trying to get better at making carbonated beer lol. That and I want to share...and, as noted, most people seem to enjoy a little effervescence.

    By the way, it's not that my final product is bad, it's just that my expectations go through the roof when I taste it at bottling. Then a couple weeks later, I'm let down, that's all. Just figured some other brewers would share that experience.
     
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