The Averagely Perfect American IPA Project - Poll #25- 5 minute hop variety(s)

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Feb 25, 2013.

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Choose the Hop Variety(s) for the 5 Minute Addition

Poll closed Feb 27, 2013.
  1. Simcoe

    4.9%
  2. Centennial

    2.5%
  3. Cascade

    9.9%
  4. Simcoe and Centennial

    24.7%
  5. Simcoe and Cascade

    9.9%
  6. Centennial and Cascade

    7.4%
  7. Simcoe, Centennial, and Cascade

    40.7%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,419) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    Now we'll determine which of the flavor/aroma hops will be used in the 5 minute addition. The potential combinations are unique. Straight plurality wins.

    For those looking ahead, the next poll will determine quantity(s) of hops for this addition, before moving on to the next addition.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you don't know what this thread is about, please see this thread...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please Beer Mail me.
    Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand (not about how you would have asked the question differently). I will not address methodology questions in the forum any more. I'm not going to risk having a thread deleted due to a flame war. If this irks you, please consider not playing.

    The Averagely Perfect American IPA Recipe so far...
    5 Gallons
    Target ABV: 6.5%
    Target OG: 1.062
    Target FG: 1.012
    Apparent Attenuation: 81%
    Recommended Mash Temp: 151F
    64 IBUs (per Tinseth Calc)

    Grain Bill:
    Two-Row Brewer's Malt (92%)
    Crystal 40 (5%)
    Carapils (3%)

    Bittering Hop:
    Magnum

    Flavor/Aroma Hops:
    Simcoe
    Centennial
    Cascade

    Flavor/Aroma Hop Schedule:
    15 minutes - Simcoe 0.5 oz, Centennial 0.5 oz, Cascade 0.5 oz
    10 minutes - Simcoe 0.5 oz, Centennial 0.5 oz, Cascade 0.5 oz

    5 minutes
    FO/Whirlpool/Stand
    Dry Hop

    Yeast:
    Wyeast 1056/WLP001/US-05
     
  2. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Initiate (0) May 21, 2010 Texas

    A brief analysis of what we have so far...

    As is, and as close as I can tweak my system* to get to the target values...
    • what we already have in centennial, simcoe and cascade is about 41 IBUs. Assuming that the 5 minute addition won't add that many IBUs, it will still probably be about a quarter ounce of magnum at 60. However, using a quarter ounce of magnum right now yields 52.6 IBUs
    • 11 lbs 10 oz 2-row, 10 oz C40, 6 oz carapils is the base malt composition that gets me closest to the agreed on parameters (it's pretty damn close)
    I am somewhat expecting the 5 minute addition to be at least 0.5 oz x 3 varieties, perhaps higher on the weights. I am guessing all three hops will win the day on every addition. If this happens, it should set us very close to the agreed upon parameters. Despite any reservations some might have, I think we're on track with the hops voting to get what we are shooting for!

    Very interesting~! I am sure this will wind up being a tasty, somewhat of a hop-bomb APA-IPA! :D

    I should get the additional hops I need to brew this in the mail any day now.

    Cheers Vikeman!

    *obviously it will vary somewhat on each individual's system. I use a 5 gallon mash tun (igloo cooler), and a turkey fryer 7.5 gallon pot, fermenting at 64-66F, efficiency about 67% (the one listed on the top of the design page on beersmith II)
     
  3. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Initiate (0) May 21, 2010 Texas

    To expand on my analysis just a tad, if we were to put a half ounce each of simcoe, centennial, and cascade at 5 minutes, along with what I already stated above, we'd be at 62.3 IBUs, almost right on target.
     
  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Meyvn (1,451) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Subscriber

    Let's gang up on cascade and eliminate it from the remaining additions!
     
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  5. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    I'm just going to assume we'll be using a half ounce of each for all hop additions.
     
  6. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Initiate (0) May 21, 2010 Texas

    Just got my centennial and simcoe in the mail. Plus a pound of citra. :D
     
  7. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    Yum!
     
  8. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Moderator (1,228) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Subscriber Beer Trader


    I'm okay keeping it all out of the boil past the 10 min phase. I WILL want to add it with some Simcoe to the dry hop. Cascade in a dryhop just flat out taste good with other hops.
     
  9. Treb0R

    Treb0R Aspirant (232) Dec 12, 2012 Oregon

    Dryhop = mostly Simcoe.

    Who's with me?
     
  10. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    I fixed that for you.
     
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  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Meyvn (1,451) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Subscriber

    On it's own, it is nice. With centennial and simcoe, I see it as adding little that is unique and can stand out among the others, and either diluting their impact or adding to vegetal potential.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,419) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    Guess that'll be Simcoe, Centennial, and Cascade.
     
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