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The Averagely Perfect American IPA Project - Poll #8 - Select % of C-40 Crystal Malt

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Jan 20, 2013.

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Select Portion of Crystal 40 in Grain Bill

Poll closed Jan 22, 2013.

  1. 1%

    4 vote(s)
    4.6%

  2. 2%

    2 vote(s)
    2.3%

  3. 3%

    10 vote(s)
    11.5%

  4. 4%

    22 vote(s)
    25.3%

  5. 5%

    39 vote(s)
    44.8%

  6. 6%

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%

  7. 7%

    3 vote(s)
    3.4%

  8. 8%

    5 vote(s)
    5.7%

  9. 9%

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%

  10. 10% or more

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Now we need to figure out how much C-40 (this poll) and Carapils (next poll) to use. Since C-40 adds flavor and body, and Carapils basically only adds body, we'll start with C-40 and based on that, the following poll will determine the carapils amount, which can be selected in the context of the body already contributed by the C-40. I would have liked to combine the polls, but there are not enough slots to cover the possible combinations. Straight plurality wins, unless I see an odd distribution that requires further analysis.

    This poll be open for 48 hours.

    If you don't know what this thread is about, please see this thread...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please Beer Mail me.
    Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand (not about how you would have asked the question differently). Thanks!

    The Averagely Perfect American IPA Recipe so far...
    5 Gallons
    Target ABV: 6.5%
    Target OG: 1.062
    Target FG: 1.012
    Apparent Attenuation: 81%
    Two-Row Brewer's Malt
    Carapils
    Crystal 40
     
    #1 VikeMan, Jan 20, 2013
  2. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Im gonna go on record that I absolutely hate using % for malt bills, I know others like them, but in generally I hate using percentages, too much is lost in the number
     
    #2 ryane, Jan 20, 2013
  3. cmac1705

    cmac1705 Crusader (493) Apr 30, 2010 Florida

    I'm curious why you feel this way. Percentages are a commonly accepted way of listing and scaling recipes.
     
    #3 cmac1705, Jan 21, 2013
  4. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    Math is hard!
     
    #4 samtallica, Jan 21, 2013
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  5. cmac1705

    cmac1705 Crusader (493) Apr 30, 2010 Florida

    By the way this thing is going, I feel like we're gonna end up with Stone IPA.

    Not necessarily a bad thing.
     
    #5 cmac1705, Jan 21, 2013
  6. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    Stone IPA actually uses lighter crystal, but yeah, there was no doubt from the start of this thing that we were going to end up with a west coast IPA.
     
    #6 samtallica, Jan 21, 2013
  7. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,946) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    5% for me and I hope that zero is an option for the carapils :slight_smile:
     
    #7 wspscott, Jan 21, 2013
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,238) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Was looking to keep total cara under 5%. Not going to happen.
     
    #8 pweis909, Jan 21, 2013
  9. Mfedonczak

    Mfedonczak Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2008 Texas

    I went with 5%. I just kegged an IPA that used a total of 9% crystal malt split evenly between c40 and carapils that had the same O.G. and F.G. that we are trying to hit.
     
    #9 Mfedonczak, Jan 21, 2013
  10. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,946) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    Vote zero for the carapils, I think we need a write-in campaign :slight_smile:
     
    #10 wspscott, Jan 21, 2013
  11. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    My vote is for .5 lb... Someone do the math for me.
     
    #11 cmmcdonn, Jan 21, 2013
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  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    You got that right!...so fudge the # on the small side...2+2=5

    realistically, if you like 5% crystal and you know you gotta use some carapils...don't go as high as 5% C-40
     
    #12 GreenKrusty101, Jan 21, 2013
  13. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    I was hoping for like 4% of each, but 5% of each wouldn't be the end of the world. Just mash lower.
     
    #13 samtallica, Jan 21, 2013
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  14. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    You need about 11# of grain to get to 1.062 at 75% eff. That translates to 4.5% crystal
     
    #14 kjyost, Jan 21, 2013
  15. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Huh?
     
    #15 sergeantstogie, Jan 21, 2013
  16. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    Thanks. Guess I'll round up then.
     
    #16 cmmcdonn, Jan 21, 2013
  17. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    But our OG is 1.065, remember?
     
    #17 samtallica, Jan 21, 2013
  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    It's listed as part of the "recipe so far" in each poll.
     
    #18 VikeMan, Jan 21, 2013
  19. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    Wishful thinking on my part, I suppose. I voted for an ABV of 6.9% and had been working with that number in BeerSmith.
     
    #19 samtallica, Jan 21, 2013
  20. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,428) May 21, 2010 Texas
    Pooh-Bah

    Works for me. :grinning:

    Since we're using C-40 and carapils, I voted for 4% (although 5 would work).

    I don't care about scaling. I'm an engineering major, and I have beersmith II. If I can't handle the math with that, I need to change my major. :rolling_eyes:
     
    #20 AlCaponeJunior, Jan 21, 2013
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