The Averagely Perfect Dubbel “How We Got There” thread.

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  1. riptorn

    riptorn Zealot (528) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    The links below are to the threads for the AP Dubbel, in chronological order beginning with the thread suggesting it might be time for another BA Homebrewing crowd-sourced recipe (started February 28, 2018), and ending with “The How My Averagely Perfect Dubbel Turned Out Thread” (started July 7, 2018).

    Hat-tips to:
    @VikeMan for creating the polls, ingesting the data, calculating the results and incorporating them into the final recipe.
    @wspscott for suggesting this thread.
    @allthehomebrewersorpros who contributed.

    Please advise of errors or omissions, broken or misdirected links. Feel free to make suggestions for future “How We Got Here” threads.

    Another Averagely Perfect Brew?
    Averagely Perfect Project #6 - Pre-Poll
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #1 - ABV
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #2 - Final Gravity
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #3 - Grains/Fermentables
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #4 - Main Base Malt(s)
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #5 - Sugary Stuff and/or C-Malt(s)
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #6 - Sugar, Sugar Products, and/or Honey
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #7 - Resolve D-90/D-180
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #8 - Cara/Crystal Malts
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #9 - Special B/Caramunich Runoff
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #10 - Vienna and/or Munich Malt(s)
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #11 - Munich/Vienna Runoff
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #12 - Aromatic/Aroma Malts
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #13 - Fermentables Combo Poll
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel: Yeast Pre-Poll Sidebar
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #14 - Yeast Strain
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #15 - D-90 Syrup Percentage
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #16 - Total C-Malt Percentage
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #17 - C-Malt Split
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #18 - Mash Temperature
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #19 - Mash Length
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #20 - Flavor/Aroma Hop Regions
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #21 - Flavor/Aroma Hops Preliminaries
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #22 - Final Flavor/Aroma Hops
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #23 - Bittering Hop Philosophy
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #24 - Hop Schedule Times
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #25 - IBUs
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #26 - 10 Minute Hop Qty
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #27 - Recommended Boil Length
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #28 - Fermentation Temperature
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #29 - Fermentation Temp Profile
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #30 - Temperature at Pitching
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #31 - Temperature at End of Fermentation
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #32 - Fermentation Ramp Time
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #33 - General Water Profile
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #34 - Specific Concentrations for Chloride and Sulfates
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #35 - Syrup Addition Timing
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #36 - Syrup Addition Timing Runoff
    Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #37 - Carbonation Level

    Link to the final recipe in the Belgian/French Ales section of the Recipes forum:
    Belgian/French Ales Averagely Perfect Dubbel - AG (w/extract + steeped grains option)

    The How My Averagely Perfect Dubbel Turned Out Thread
     
    #1 riptorn, Mar 1, 2019
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  2. TheWorstBrewerEver

    TheWorstBrewerEver Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2016 Norway

    thanks for putting all that together. I can hardly wait to get started
     
    #2 TheWorstBrewerEver, Mar 1, 2019
  3. Brewday

    Brewday Initiate (168) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Nice job with the stats. That recipe came out great.
     
    #3 Brewday, Mar 1, 2019
  4. riptorn

    riptorn Zealot (528) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    I’m willing to do this for all threads of all AP recipes I can access.
    Using search parameters of “Averagely Perfect” in the title returns only 5 pages or results, and the earliest thread is Poll # 23 for the NorthEast IPA (started June 21, 2016).
    I’m guessing the search function places limits that prevent posts/threads older than “x” from displaying in the results, or (less likely) previous AP threads don't have "Averagely Perfect" in the title.

    It’s not clear to me if the age restriction (if it exists) can be overcome by a regular member.
    If someone knows of a search workaround that will return all the AP threads, let me know.
     
    #4 riptorn, Mar 1, 2019
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (2,005) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Try searching for each project separately. For example, put "averagely perfect american IPA" (with the double quotes) in the search field, and specify VikeMan in the Posted by Member field. This should cut down on the results significantly.
     
    #5 VikeMan, Mar 1, 2019
  6. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (13,271) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    Seeing as how we ended up with pretty much exactly the recipe I'd have written in the first place I think the Dubbel went really well, but more importantly I thought it was a great learning experience as well (I'd never heard of those liquid sugars before). So that's the great part, and the camaraderie of sharing. Unfortunately I also think that the Dubbel style is well focused as it is, similar to a Czech Pilsner or an English bitter. We've got a lot of styles out there that are a little more free-form and ranging so I'm wondering how "averagely perfect" those can be. I'm looking forward to more, and thanks again to @VikeMan!
     
    #6 NeroFiddled, Mar 1, 2019
  7. wspscott

    wspscott Savant (910) May 25, 2006 Kentucky

    The saison process was really fun and I learned a lot along the way. I think that is the main benefit of all of these recipes.
     
    #7 wspscott, Mar 2, 2019
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  8. riptorn

    riptorn Zealot (528) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    That got me headed in the right direction, thanks.
    I tweaked the search to "averagely perfect" in the title, by vikeman, and searched the Recipes forum only. That gave me the exact name for all the projects; more "How we got there" next week.
     
    #8 riptorn, Mar 2, 2019
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