The Beer Flop House -- new strategy for whale hunting

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by chipawayboy, Nov 6, 2014.

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  1. MEBully

    MEBully Initiate (50) Nov 13, 2013 Massachusetts

    all except Bell's Sculpin the only one that USED to be in the same class as aforementioned. But last 3 bombers have been spent. Old. Ergo my "fresh beer" obsession. My palate. gotta own it.
  2. MEBully

    MEBully Initiate (50) Nov 13, 2013 Massachusetts

    "...about 10 Mass beers"
  3. MEBully

    MEBully Initiate (50) Nov 13, 2013 Massachusetts

    5 guys, $25 a head plus upkeep. And a clubhouse of our own? One can dream...
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  4. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

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  5. stonermouse

    stonermouse Devotee (464) Aug 16, 2006 Massachusetts

    Taking a quick buzz through this thread, we're all in agreement that this is a troll, right? If so, I hope the admin soon deletes this thread before my head detaches from my body from all of the head-shaking and face-palming.
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  6. Beef_Curtains

    Beef_Curtains Devotee (471) Oct 14, 2013 Ohio

    This plan is for people with too much money/time.
  7. breadwinner

    breadwinner Meyvn (1,216) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Haha, fair enough, my man. I sincerely hope you'll come back and update if you guys decide to go for it -- it'd be interesting to see how it works out for you.
  8. papat444

    papat444 Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2006 Quebec (Canada)

    Better yet, build a tree house in the VT woods near HF and swoop first in line every day. No rent, no electricity, no expenses. Just make sure not to do that in winter :wink:
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  9. MEBully

    MEBully Initiate (50) Nov 13, 2013 Massachusetts

    Or too much money and not enough time...
  10. rozzom

    rozzom Champion (807) Jan 22, 2011 New York

    Too much money? And that would be you I take it? Hilarious :rolling_eyes:

    Is this BA's version of the 110k + OT thread?
  11. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,530) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Comments are spot on. I'd wager that most of us, flop house folks included, would probably choose many "shelf beers" over whales if given a broad blind taste test of great IPAs. Maybe not all, but certainly many to most. All too often when people claim they know what they like on taste, they're really expressing a preference that is based (largely) on other aspects, or at least a strong mixture of them. Or to be a little facetious, many like the taste of rarity.
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  12. breadwinner

    breadwinner Meyvn (1,216) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Just went back and read this and realized, perhaps in my zeal to try and see your side of things, that 5 guys @ $25 a head is not $250/month, brother. Gotta double that. So, $50/mo + upkeep + plus the financial commitment of being tied to a fixed asset? Yeah, I just can't get down. Make your bi-weekly runs, share hotel rooms, and have the freedom to stop whenever you want. Getting locked into a doublewide (and forgive me if I'm suspect of the resale value of a doublewide) doesn't sound like a plan I'd want in on.
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  13. Ericness

    Ericness Initiate (128) Nov 21, 2012 Massachusetts

    And sleep on the same sheets as commoners? :grimacing:
  14. hossthepatsfan

    hossthepatsfan Initiate (38) Nov 18, 2008 Massachusetts

    I'd love to see someone line up five "whales" along side 5 other decently-rated "commoner" beers of the same style and do a blind taste test with "whale hunters".... and have them either identify which beer is which or simply rank them from favorite to least favorite.

    edit: oops... just noticed, basically, the same comments just a couple of posts up.
    #174 hossthepatsfan, Nov 7, 2014
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  15. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (498) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    When you put it that way it doesn't sound quite as insane.
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  16. rozzom

    rozzom Champion (807) Jan 22, 2011 New York

    Except as @breadwinner pointed out, the math was off
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  17. mohawk5

    mohawk5 Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2014 New Jersey

    lol just move to freaking Vermont if you love this beer that much that you want your kid to study in VT just so you can make more beer trips.

    What a mess! lol
  18. stonermouse

    stonermouse Devotee (464) Aug 16, 2006 Massachusetts

    But dude, walez. C'mon guy.
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  19. benbking

    benbking Aspirant (211) Dec 11, 2009 Rhode Island

    If you guys want to fund it, I will happily be the first person to land at Hill Farmstead via helicopter.
  20. Jirin

    Jirin Aspirant (220) Apr 28, 2013 Massachusetts

    You're willing to spend thousands of dollars more a year just to make it even harder for anyone else to get any?
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  21. readyski

    readyski Aspirant (244) Jun 4, 2005 California

    And of course the elephant in the room is that partnerships (you and your buddies), are like marriages, and if/when they end, they end badly :slight_frown:
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  22. BostonHops

    BostonHops Champion (872) Sep 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Yep, another legitimate question in a venture filled with them. What happens when one of the buddies wants out? Someone has a kid and suddenly doesn't have the extra money to throw at this flop house and the biweekly trips... Or has to move across the country for work... Or loses his job... Or sleeps with one the buddies' wives... :flushed:

    Kinda has the feel of one of those eureka moments you have with some friends at the tail end of a night filled with double digit ABV brews, glossing over the annoying pitfalls. Sounds so inspired and doable at the time! Then you wake up the next morning and... yeah that's really not gonna work.

    Good thread though!
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  23. Ilovelampandbeer

    Ilovelampandbeer Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2013 New York

    one of the worst ive seen
  24. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    Getting the highest rated beers is serious business folks!


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  25. tommyguz

    tommyguz Savant (997) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania

    That's what I was thinking. I imagine OP wouldn't use the house every single day of the year, so in turn they could charge people to stay there when it's not in use, actually making money on the house instead of paying. I know if I were going to Vermont for a trip I'd consider renting a house for a day or two if needed as opposed to a hotel room.
  26. tommyguz

    tommyguz Savant (997) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Wait. Is this all because you are British?
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  27. tommyguz

    tommyguz Savant (997) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Is Vermont housing free of property taxes?
  28. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (418) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts

    BAers-- I want to thank all of you for your advise, consult, insults, and degrading comments regarding the beer flop house concept. I truly feel the vision we had has been given critical thought -- and thoroughly vetted w a large group of intelligent and unbiased peers (ok -- I'm just kiddin about the unbiased part). I also want to apologize for incorrectly defining the VT beers my friends and I seek as "whales". In the future, I will be careful to simply refer to them as "beers I have perform travel planning for and set aside excessive time in order to successfully procure". After carefully reviewing your comments -- I have concluded this is the stupidest idea I have ever considered. In thinking though alternatives (ideas that will help me get my coveted beers more efficiently and with greater comfort) that aren't as stupid -- I was thinking of getting my mates to go in on a trailer/van type of vehicle -- like below. We could leave it in a parking lot somewhere --or just stash it in the woods in Greensboro or off rt 100 somewhere (maybe near that cool farm that has the "museum of everyday life" kinda near Hill Farmstead). We could stock the van w blow up mattresses and a small fridge for sampling and snacks while on beer run trips. I haven't discussed this yet w Mebully as I think he is still clinging to his flop house idea (it was HIS idea btw). Thoughts on this approach to more efficiently and comfortably obtain the Vt beers I have to perform travel planning for and set aside excessive time in order to successfully procure?

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  29. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (5,985) Sep 24, 2007 Montserrat

    Dude, just buy a used RV. Comes with beds, places to cook and eat, and a bathroom. Plus, when you're not making beer runs with it, you can drive it to the shore (or wherever your hang out place is).
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  30. MEBully

    MEBully Initiate (50) Nov 13, 2013 Massachusetts

    My bad. Funny thing is, I was a math major in college. Logic still holds...
  31. MEBully

    MEBully Initiate (50) Nov 13, 2013 Massachusetts

    Sry Chippy, but no stopping me, I'm on a roll. Lot's of food for thought here. I'm thinking limited partnership possibly run as a not for profit to avoid taxes. This would solve the "ending badly" when your wife and I make an unscheduled "trip" up...

    VT is a pretty f'd up place that way. We could found it as a church. Our Lady of Perpetual Hops or some such. Maybe our girl from HF could be our patron saint.

    Still, the economics beat any alternative. $600 a year "tithe". Revenue stream from Airbnb. Potential sponsorships. Franchinsing rights. The mind fairly boggles.

    As far as the RV? The way you drive? And active yeast in the lower GI? Homeland security would be all over us as a potential weapon of mass destruction...

  32. Freedom_is

    Freedom_is Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Minnesota

    Did anyone notice that chip away boy just threw his buddy under the bus as his idea? That was a 18 wheeler bus!!! May be some cold nights with no love for those two up in the VT flop house! Me billy will you still go for runs with your Johnny cakes?
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  33. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (418) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts

    Freedom is -- not sure what u talking about and I don't appreciate what u r insinuating!!!!
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  34. ArkansasTraveller

    ArkansasTraveller Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 Arkansas

    So many laughs.
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  35. stephens101

    stephens101 Poo-Bah (2,245) May 5, 2006 Oklahoma

    Sometimes I have no idea what I am doing here.
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  36. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,530) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Let's drink to 2014 - the year of the FlopHouse
  37. JohnnyK

    JohnnyK Aspirant (294) May 24, 2006 North Carolina

    I suspect this is a thread created for shites amd giggles
  38. MaltLickyWithTheCandy

    MaltLickyWithTheCandy Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2013 Maryland

  39. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    Here you go folks, more rich folks fucking it up for the rest of us. They already pushed the middle class out of being able to afford a ticket to see our favorite pro-sports teams, a ticket to see our favorite bands, a week at a beach house by the ocean, a trip overseas to see where our families came from/still live, and, soon, we won't even be able to afford to go to the fucking movies. Craft beer is a luxury item where the best of the best is within the grasp of many of the people that enjoy it. This type of shit is pushing it slightly out of reach.
  40. Nick_Bousquet

    Nick_Bousquet Initiate (0) Sep 17, 2014 Virginia

    Just when you thought it was dead.....the Flop House thread is revived! @Providence I wouldn't worry too much, it's been 9 months since this original post and the sate of craft beer seems about the same. Although I would love to hear if OP is walled up somewhere, jealously guarding his stash of Heady, SoS, and HF beers.
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