The better the beer the better the food at a dining establishment?

Discussion in 'Beer & Food' started by iHeartMNBeer, May 25, 2013.

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  1. iHeartMNBeer

    iHeartMNBeer Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2013 Minnesota

    Has anyone else noticed that the better the beer selection, the better the food selection usually is? This is why I typically choose my restaurants based on the beer they serve ;).
     
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  2. deadliest

    deadliest Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2009 Texas

    The wine selection is probably a better indication of food quality than the beer selection is, sadly. Some really primo places still have mediocre beer choices(in comparison to the quality of their food anyway).

    However it probably is true in general that restaurants that care enough to pick a nice tap selection probably also care enough to make food that doesn't suck.
     
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  3. VeganUndead

    VeganUndead Meyvn (1,137) Apr 25, 2012 Virginia
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    Not necessarily, but I'm much more likely to frequent an establishment with a great beer selection and only decent food, than a place with great food and only decent beer selection.
     
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  4. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2008 California

    As far as beer places go, yes ones with an excellent rotating beer list usually have better food than the "irish pub" type joints that have 15 or so non-rotating mediocre taps.

    In the grand scheme of food however, beer seems to be merely an afterthought among the great restaurants.
     
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  5. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (2,544) Oct 14, 2009 Texas
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    In my experience:

    good food =/= good beer

    and

    good beer =/= good food

    ...but when it does, watch out!
     
  6. cookiequiz

    cookiequiz Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2013 California

    I don't know --- Russian River's food is 'eh'.
     
  7. watermelonman

    watermelonman Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2004 California

    Beer Bites rock, skip the rest.
     
  8. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Couldn't disagree more. In our current society fine food goes with fine wine, although beer is gaining steam. There are some good beer and food joints but they're just that, good. Also, when I go out to eat I go out to eat I'm interested in the food, not the beer. I'll go out to drink if I want beer.
     
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  9. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    I guess it depends on what people mean by "good" food. When I go out for beer and food, I think for quality examples of the following: pizza, burgers, grilled cheese, mac & cheese, bbq... Places like Pizza Port, Encinitas Ale House, Churchill's, Sublime Ale House all have what I'd call "great" food and beer.
     
  10. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2009 Washington

  11. BigJim5021

    BigJim5021 Zealot (581) Sep 2, 2007 Indiana
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    All of the places around here that have good beer also have good food. I think it just speaks to the fact that they give a damn about both, whereas plenty of high-end restaurants still don't see beer as a priority.
     
  12. Buxas

    Buxas Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Totally false presumption. There is a place near here named after a doublewide garage. They have a good beer selection, but I would not give their food to my dog. I have been in places with good food and good beer, and places with a poor beer selection and poor food. However there is no firm link between the two.
     
  13. Darwin553

    Darwin553 Initiate (67) Jan 5, 2009 Australia

    I agree with what the OP said as a general yardstick to go by. Of course there are some exceptions...
     
  14. oglmcdgl

    oglmcdgl Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I guess I'm lucky living in philly we have tons of amazing beer and food establishments.
     
  15. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2010 New York

    **The drunker you get the better the food is.**
     
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  16. Sneers

    Sneers Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Definitely not.

    I mean, let's face it- in terms of effort, it's pretty easy to offer a great beer selection. Yeah, it takes some know-how to pick an appropriate selection, to run a draft system properly, and to have all the right glassware, but in terms of making a certain beer available, you fill in a different box on an order form, then pour it when it arrives. That is, simply offering great beer isn't a huge marker of the care put into an establishment.

    The same is certainly not true with food. Developing a great menu takes a ton of thought and skill, and goes far above "flipping" the ingredients ordered from various purveyors to patrons.

    Thus, my general observation is actually closer to the converse of what the OP suggests. Places with great food have already exhibited the care towards overall presentation that lends itself to crafting a quality drink selection; of course, sometimes that selection includes beer, sometimes not. But as almost anyone can serve great beer, I don't see how doing so translates into great care for all the food served.
     
  17. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Victory Brewing Co and Sly Fox are two of my favorite breweries and the food at both their brewpubs is nothing to write home about.
     
  18. Kenzie

    Kenzie Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2013 Utah

    Sometimes true. I usually only order beer at a restaurant if I'm out of state, since usually any beer on the menu in Utah is by the bottle and something I can buy at the liquor store for much cheaper.

    I actually went to a wing place in Colorado. They have alright food and I knew they had a large beer selection. I asked the server what kind of beers she had, and if she had a beer menu. She replied with "Well we basically have everything." So I'm like "Okay do you have deschutes?" She brings me a deschutes beer and I ask "So what's the name of this" And she replied with "Uhh...deschutes," like I'm stupid. It is a big pet peeve when restaurants serve a variety of beer and the servers are uneducated and have no idea to describe them, let alone know their name.
     
  19. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    What exactly do you mean by "selection"? Golden Corral has everything under the sun, but it's all shit. In my experience, places with only a few choices have the best stuff.
     
  20. smakawhat

    smakawhat Poo-Bah (5,834) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    Depends where you live. Here in the Washington DC area this isn't a problem, there's a plethora of great food occasional limited beer selection, and also great food and great beer selection, with the latter having lots of choices.
     
  21. Dreizhen

    Dreizhen Aspirant (263) Jun 6, 2013 District of Columbia

    I think wine and cocktails are better indications of quality food. I'm not as well versed in the quality of wine as I am beer and cocktails so I typically stick to cocktails and that's always worked for me. Basically, +1 each for drinks with Maraschino, St. Germaine, rye whiskey, Chartreuse, Lillet, etc...+2 for the use of bitters and/or house made ingredients. -1 for blue curacao, muddles old fashioned, flavored vodka (not the in-house kind), etc... -2 for pre-made mixes. Anything in the 5+ range is almost always good.

    I think beer selection varies too much based on location. I can think of a handful of amazing restaurants that only have Sam Adams, something local, and then macros.
     
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