The Canadian Beer Banned For Being Too Cheap

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by NeroFiddled, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (11,042) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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  2. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Poo-Bah (5,462) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin

    Have heard that there's a price floor in Canada which 6-packs of beer must meet. Rewind back to a trip to Toronto in 2006, where I was told by a fellow beer drinker that Molson's and Labatt's must meet $7.99 a sixer, minimum.
     
  3. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Disciple (384) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois

    What a load of crap.

    What kind of ass backwards logic is this? This isn’t allowing breweries to compete. It’s eliminating true competition.
     
  4. jcos

    jcos Devotee (478) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland
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    Get this guy a Puppers...
     
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  5. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,743) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Welcome to socialism...
     
  6. pbrian

    pbrian Defender (660) Feb 8, 2001 Connecticut

    It’s Canada
     
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  7. stevepat

    stevepat Crusader (783) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    There are minimum retail prices on alcohol in most (maybe all?) states in the US as well. Pretty sure it's pitched as a means to discourage problematic drinking. Not a socialist plot
     
  8. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,743) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Wisconsin's minimum must be less than 62 cents a can!

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  9. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (469) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    I've had beer that was way cheaper than 62 cents a can.
     
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  10. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,743) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I have too, back in 1978.
     
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  11. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (469) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    Socialism would be standing in line for seven hours to get the one poorly made beer that is still available.
     
  12. Glider

    Glider Zealot (530) Nov 15, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, beer is pretty expensive here and you can still find 50 cents a beer. I feel like I used to see some you could get for 35 cents, but inflation?
     
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  13. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (469) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    You can still get 36 cans of Boxer for between nine and ten bucks. Go ahead and crunch the numbers if you like.
     
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  14. stevepat

    stevepat Crusader (783) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Is that really how they live in Germany?
     
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  15. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,743) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Something to be said for frugal drinking. I sure couldn't have afforded craft if it had existed when I was in college. I would have LMAO if you tried to tell me back then I'd be drinking $20+ beers by 2019.
     
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  16. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (469) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    It's how they live in Venezuela.
     
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  17. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (469) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    It's actually not all that bad. It's not all that good either.
     
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  18. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (3,608) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Kansas considers "full strength" as 6% and below.

    Yeah, I'm calling your crazy asses out. Full story: Kansas upped the ABV level with which gas stations and groceries stores can retail beer. That level? 6%. There were billboards and cooler covers advertising "full strength beer" with the change.

    Sadly, they aren't the only ones. Colorado is similar (as I recall), having just legalized 6% and under beer in grocery stores.
     
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  19. stevepat

    stevepat Crusader (783) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Haha ah yes the only known example of socialism in the world...
     
  20. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Meyvn (1,364) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

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  21. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (936) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Some of the inter-provincial rules have changed here since the early 90s when No Name Beer was first available. Minimum pricing still exists, however, but has little effect on most beer.

    The only kind of beer that is really substantially more expensive here is budget priced AAL. A lot of beer is actually substantially cheaper here than in most States. For example, the regular price for Rochefort 8 is US$2.80 and Rochefort 10 is US$3.40. Samuel Adams Utopias has been US$84.00 the last couple releases.

    Don’t even ask how much we pay for some of the more sought after bourbons here. Suffice to say, I’ve traded bourbon to Kentucky several times...

    Most of the complaints about the system here in Ontario have nothing to do with price.
     
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  22. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (936) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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  23. ypsifly

    ypsifly Meyvn (1,064) Sep 22, 2004 Michigan

    I'm guessing the minimum price is so the gov't can get a guaranteed amount of tax from each sale. Since its based on a certain percentage, the lower the shelf price the lower the tax collected. I doubt it is to discourage drinking.
     
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  24. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (936) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    You’d be right, but studies have shown the effect has been good for health vis a vis alcohol related health issues, and some Provinical examples have been used by other countries looking to introduce similar pricing floors for health reasons.

    This article is pretty good.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.the...pr/30/canada-state-controlled-drinking-health

    This may be one of the better aspects of government control on the demon liquid here and the continuing influence of our largely Methodist and Presbyterian heritage. And, as I mention above, it really only affects the pricing of budget AAL.
     
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  25. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,942) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Wonder what a case of BEER costs at the PX? There certainly isn’t style and marketing concerns to drive up the price. Back in the day you could easily find cases of beer for under $4 a case, quite a few were 16 oz returnable bottles too, like Gibbons and Reading.
     
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  26. jlharman

    jlharman Initiate (57) Apr 5, 2015 Washington

    Back when I was in college in the late '70s, the Squirrel Hill Cafe in Pittsburgh had 25 cent drafts of Iron City on Thursday nights. Of course they watered it down a bit.
     
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  27. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,155) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What would be those complaints?

    Cheers!

    P.S. FWIW we Pennsylvanians have our own Liquor Control Board (PLCB) but beer is exempted. Liquor must be purchased from state owned stores.
     
  28. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Poo-Bah (3,048) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    :astonished: Hope the prices are like that when I visit Vancouver in February!
     
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  29. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (936) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Don’t get me wrong. People complain about prices here all the time. That said, the usual complaints about the system here (Ontario) have more to do with availability, freshness, lack of selection etc. The LCBO is first and foremost a wine merchant. Beer plays second or third or fourth fiddle. It is difficult to import beer here and have it brought to market quickly. Many new to market imports languish in a warm warehouse awaiting testing for a couple months before seeing a retail shelf. It is also difficult for a local brewery to get a SKU at the stores. There is this odd phenomena here of one tiny craft brand buying another just to get its SKUs at the LCBO.
     
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  30. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (936) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Each province is different. BC has a combination of government and private stores. The prices will likely be a little higher.

    The best thing about our very flawed system here in Ontario is the buying power of the LCBO. It is one of the largest single buyers of alcohol in the world. This allows for some great discounts on what they purchase that get passed along to consumers.
     
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  31. jkrich

    jkrich Meyvn (1,194) Nov 1, 2001 Florida
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    I recall a similar incident many years ago involving wine. Trader Joe's had a wine named "Two-Buck Chuck" - a bottle of wine for $2.00. Some state governments apparently had laws against such low prices for alcohol and Trader Joes had to charge a little extra. Why those in government always think they know what is best for the rest of us is true arrogance.
     
  32. stevepat

    stevepat Crusader (783) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    That is literally the job of government, to make rules for everyone.
     
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  33. jkrich

    jkrich Meyvn (1,194) Nov 1, 2001 Florida
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    You are correct, but deciding what a company will charge for a consumer product should not be the government's responsibility - especially wine.
     
  34. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Aspirant (228) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I thought you were gonna say it is literally their job to be arrogant, but I guess that would have also been accurate.
     
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  35. stevepat

    stevepat Crusader (783) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    You've got to have some level of arrogance to feel like you can make rules for everyone else, that's for sure
     
  36. MattilaRage

    MattilaRage Initiate (32) Sep 2, 2018 Alberta (Canada)

    This is quite possibly one of the funniest article I've seen. Love that they were just tossing two dollar bills in with their cases for a while.( for anyone down south, canadian two dollar bills have been out of circulation since 1996). Also I sell this beer at the shop here and its as bad as you'd think for that price.
     
  37. eppCOS

    eppCOS Meyvn (1,003) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    Actually, that sounds like Dark Lord day. ZING! :wink:
     
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  38. eldoctorador

    eldoctorador Defender (638) Dec 12, 2014 California

    TIL that Germany is socialist