The Great 2020 Short's Brewing Tourney

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  1. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (461) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Giddyup lasting this long is also blasphemy!
     
  2. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Ok, everyone. Here are the match ups for ROUND 3, which will begin Wednesday, May 20 around 6 pm.

    EURO BRACKET
    Autumn Ale The winner will take on Sweep The Leg Johnny
    Wizard

    Beard of Zeus
    Aorta Ale

    Obliviate
    Devil's Lettuce

    Dolly Dagger
    Spruce Pilsner

    IPA BRACKET
    Rye Not? The winner will take on Aww Jeah
    Cat's Pajamas

    I Got 5 On It
    Slurm

    Kind Ale
    Ermagerdness

    Stellar Ale
    Chief Hopper

    FRUIT/SOUR/SPICY
    Buckticutioner The winner will take on Anni Ale 13teen
    Key Lime

    Michigantuan
    Anniversary Ale (Wheatwine)

    Wowee Zowee
    Exterior Illumination

    FLOAD
    Cerveza de Julie

    DARK/ROASTY/TOASTY
    Double Magician The winner will take on Publican Porter
    Chocolate Giddyup

    Empress Catherine
    Turtle Stout

    Sustenance Black Ale
    Goodnight Bodacious

    Uncle Steve's
    Cup of Joe
     
  3. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    After ROUND 3 we'll have ROUND 3.5, featuring:

    The winner of Autumn Ale
    & Wizard
    will take on Sweep The Leg Johnny

    The winner of Rye Not?
    & Cat's Pajamas
    will take on Aww Jeah


    The winner of Buckticutioner
    & Key Lime
    will take on Anni Ale 13teen

    The winner of Double Magician
    & Chocolate Giddyup
    will take on Publican Porter

    ROUND 3.5 will IMMEDIATELY follow ROUND 3 for two days, to IMMEDIATELY be followed by ROUND 4, the SWEET SIXTEEN.
     
  4. Buck_Jones

    Buck_Jones Devotee (432) Jan 22, 2014 Michigan

    I can’t boooo this enough! Love all three and especially 5000. Me and my buddies were super bummed it wasn’t included in last year’s Hoppy Holidays pack. It should be a staple in that assortment.
     
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  5. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Peaches & Cream lost!?!!?!
    *Flips table over and leaves.
     
  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,683) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm hurt by that one too. Its match-up was a tough choice, but I went with Peaches.
     
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  7. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Yeah, it killed me too. I was really rooting for Peaches to make it to at least Final Four. It was pretty close the entire time, the final score was Peaches 43.38, Anni 48.53, no answer 8.09
     
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  8. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    I finished completing the form for ROUND 3 early. What does everyone think about starting it tonight around 6 pm? As we get further on it's taking me a lot less time to get stuff together. Voting would run through Friday at 11 pm.
     
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  9. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (461) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Let's do it!
     
  10. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    All right, we'll consider that a go.
     
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  11. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (461) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Let's get ready to rumble!!!!!
     
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  12. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    All right, BAs, let's put on our drinkin caps, grab our whips and pistols, and go spelunking into history one more time... Except we're rescuing treasures FROM the museum!

    ****Get ready for ROUND 3*****


    https://forms.gle/uj3zYsYAC686b1J49


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    Voting will go through Friday, May 22nd at 11, then will be followed by Round 3.5 over the weekend.
     
  13. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Initiate (63) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    That made me sad to chose between goodnight Bodacious and Sustenance. I think Bodacious is the slightly better beer, but I would rather drink Sustenance 6/10 times.

    Wizard and Autumn was a tough choice as well. Its been awhile since I had Wizard, but I need my Autumn ale back for fall golf and bonfires.
     
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  14. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    First day of voting is coming to a close! We've got two more days until voting closes on Friday, May 22! If you wanna win, ya gotta play the game!

    ****ROUND 3 IS STILL GOING***


    https://forms.gle/uj3zYsYAC686b1J49

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    Cup of Joe is *again* running away with it!

    I might have to say goodbye to my beloved Dolly :slight_frown:

    Surprise tie winner Giddyup may be singing its swan song!

    All this and MORE on Round 3!
     
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  15. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    I will say at this round more than any other so far, there are so very clear favorites. Only a couple match ups are close.
     
  16. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (461) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    I can say surprisingly this has been the easiest round for me to vote in. Clear cut favorites, but I can tell it's going to get brutal.
     
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  17. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Chocolate Giddyup is getting its just desserts.
     
  18. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    LOL
     
  19. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Hey hey! About 29 hours left until voting is lockdown on Friday May 22 at 11 pm. Make sure you get you vote in so your favorites make it to Sparging Sixteen.

    Yeah, I said it. Sparging.

    ****LINK TO ROUND 3 VOTING HERE****

    https://forms.gle/uj3zYsYAC686b1J49

    __________________________________________
     
  20. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Last 9 hours of voting before we go to Round 3.5!

    If you have any Short's loving family or friends you think would want to get in on the action, share the link with them!

    https://forms.gle/uj3zYsYAC686b1J49

    I'll post the winners and voting will open for 3.5 tonight and go though Sunday night at 11 pm. Only four match ups for that round.
     
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  21. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    All right, Short's fans! ROUND 3 was closed 7 minutes ago and the results are in!

    Here is the list of winners:

    Autumn Ale
    Aorta Ale
    Obliviate
    Spruce Pilsner
    Rye Not?
    I Got 5 On It
    Kind Ale
    Chief Hopper
    Key Lime
    Anniversary Ale (Wheatwine)
    Wowee Zowee
    Cerveza de Julie
    Double Magician
    Turtle Stout
    Goodnight Bodacious
    Cup of Joe


    Some initial thoughts:
    This round had quite a few decisive winners. The favorites are really coming out.
    Cup of Joe is the first brew to gather 100% of votes. Amazing.
    I am pleased that Rye Not? has made it this far (and won with 74.15%). I was really hoping some of the older ones (Turtle, too) would hold on.
    Cerveza de Julie is a sleeper!

    Round 3.5 will be posted soon, running through 11 pm Sunday night. This is the big boy round to determine which top brews are going to the Sparging Sixteen (yes, I'm sticking with it). Match ups include:

    Sweep the Leg Johnny fka Aphasia v. Autumn Ale

    Aww Jeah v. Rye Not?

    Anni Ale 13teen v. Key Lime

    Publican Porter v. Double Magician

    What does everyone think? Favorites going forward?
     
  22. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Poo-Bah (4,569) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    As a Pavement fan, I'm riding Wowee Zowee TO THE BITTER END.
     
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  23. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    ******ROUND 3.5 IS UP********

    Here's the final mini-choice to make before we move into the final four rounds. Sticking with a brewing theme, they will be:

    The Sparging Sixteen
    The Ester Eight
    The Final Gravity Four

    LINK TO ROUND 3.5 BELOW

    https://forms.gle/myavzD2KDvpjbJXaA

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  24. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Meyvn (1,309) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I need a few cases of autumn ale. I'll smuggle them by dinghy if necessary!
     
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  25. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (461) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Alot of my favorites are still in it!
     
  26. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,683) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    The way things have washed out, it was three easy decisions and one coin toss for me (Publican Porter vs. Double Magician). We'll see how it goes.
     
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  27. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Black Sustenance lost? That is at least one match up in every round that pisses me off.

    Perhaps if @Tripel_Threat is getting a variety box, I can get a variety box of beer that should not have been out so soon like Peaches & Cream and Black Sustenance. ... We can call it the Box of Disappointment.
     
  28. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (461) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    At least Chocolate Giddyup is finally gone!
     
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  29. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    @Tripel_Threat I am curious, are the vote totals trending upward? Are certain beers receiving a lot more votes than others? Is Cup of Joe now the Kentucky/Duke of the tournament?
     
  30. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Votes are going up overall, except between Rounds 2 and 3. The drop was expected, since Short's gave us a boost for Round 2 by promoting it on their Facebook page. Votes per round so far:
    ROUND 1: 41
    ROUND 2: 136
    ROUND 3: 60
    ROUND 3.5 (so far) : 27

    You can see we're one day into 3.5 and there's already half the votes round 3 had.

    Cup of Joe has been pretty dominant throughout, but has still been gaining strength. It won its first match with 85.37% of the vote, round two with 72.06, and round 3 with 100%. To varying degrees, Johnny, Autumn, Spruce, Hopper, and Turtle have been pretty dominant in their matches.
     
  31. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Two take aways:
    Shorts posting the poll completely changed the dynamic.
    I know why Peaches & Cream lost.
     
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  32. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Haha! Just went to check results and I got some weird numbers ; a burst of votes rolled in as I was checking. We're at 36 now, seems everytime the thread bumps a bunch of votes come in.

    If I can find an easy way to share the data I'd love to get it out on the forum, but it's kind of wonky due to:
    1) Google forms is using a different time zone, so it looks like votes are coming in three hours before the poll is posted and closing before it's actually closed and
    2) there's been between 2 to 4 people who vote after the deadline. I turn off responses but it must take a minute to take effect because I see them after I tally results, but they're not counted in the percentages.

    I'm thinking I may give it all to Short's themselves,maybe they can use it. Couldn't hurt, I guess.
     
  33. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    It did, but not to the degree I was expecting. My main concern was "normies" on Facebook would vote for whatever was recently on the shelves - recency bias. I'm not trying to be derogatory, but we're a different breed of person to dissect brews, review, and tick like crazy.

    The main thing that happened is the "Not Answered" percentages jumped; "hoppier" IPAs that were in the lead by a slight margin jumped to decisive victories. Peaches and Anni were running neck and neck going down to the wire, Anni won by 7 votes. As much as I love Anni (and I loooooove Anni) I wanted to see Peaches take it this time. Ah, well.

    EDIT: We also need to remember Short's employees have been voting as well! I don't know who or how many (since I'm not requiring an email to vote I have no idea where they're coming from). They've been in it since the beginning, so take that into account, too.
     
    #113 Tripel_Threat, May 23, 2020 at 9:21 PM
    Last edited: May 23, 2020 at 9:34 PM
  34. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    That is pretty interesting analysis. As was noted previously, Shorts leans more toward IPAs and Pale Ales this day. The "Facebook Effect" on voting seemed to reinforce what they see as their market. ... And I agree, we are a different breed of beer drinker here.
     
  35. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (461) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    If Aphasia and Autumn have both been dominant, we are probably in for a close match this round between those two.
    For years I have been wanting Shorts to skip Shortscake for a year and release Peaches or Key Lime Pie instead.
     
  36. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Totally agree. I wonder these of getting Strawberries in MI (vs. lime and peaches) is an issue.
     
  37. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,711) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    For Peaches I always thought it was a cost thing, since they've had it on tap at the pub but haven't distro in years. For Key Lime, I always thought it was a love it or hate it (out of my friends and family I'm the only one who enjoys it) beer and maybe wasn't popular enough on its past releases.

    Alternately, maybe Short's doesn't want to have more than one "golden ale with lactose and fruit" on the market and Short's Cake sells well enough not to knock it off the release schedule. I honestly don't know.

    EDIT: WOW! 72 responses so far with a little over 24 hours to go!
     
  38. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,276) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Perhaps it’s the rainy weather keeping everybody inside with nothing to do.
     
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  39. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Initiate (63) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    I mean Cup A Joe is the best so not too suprised there.
     
  40. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Initiate (63) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    Awww man Publican vs Double Magician hurt my soul. A couple years ago when Double was the fall seasonal, that is all I drank with Autumn Ale until Christmas. Also when Short's did the private account release with Chief Hopper and Publican, I drank Publican for a year straight and my local shop had so much they had it on clearance 6 months after release for $6.99 a 6pk.
     
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