The Great 2020 Short's Brewing Tourney

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  1. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (474) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Never thought I'd vote against Aorta Ale! Damn you Ester eight......damn you!!!
     
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  2. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,644) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    That felt like one of the easier rounds. But I guess when the clear and correct champion *cough* autumn ale *cough* is already out what does it matter? For real though, publican v cuppajoe was the only one I had to think about
     
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  3. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Any one of these eight would make a good champion, and looking at past numbers I can't predict 75% of the match ups.
     
  4. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Cup of Joe v Publican Porter is like choosing between your children.
     
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  5. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Some data for everyone to chew on while we vote on THE ESTER EIGHT....

    SPARGING SIXTEEN
    171 total votes

    Johnny 35.67
    Aorta 54.39
    Not Answered 9.94

    Obliviate 16.37
    Spruce 79.53
    Not Answered 4.09

    Rye 62.57
    Got 5 30.99
    Not Answered 6.43

    Kind 38.60
    Chief 47.95
    Not Answered 13.45

    Key Lime 73.10
    Anni 24.56
    Not Answered 2.34

    Wowee 35.09
    Julie 54.39
    Not Answered 10.53

    Publican 50.29
    Turtle 43.86
    Not Answered 5.85

    Bodacious 22.81
    Joe 73.10
    Not Answered 4.09


    Make what you will of the numbers! In the meantime, make sure you participate in the Ester Eight!

    *******LINK TO VOTE HERE********

    https://forms.gle/5ZGf2aFM7dhM1hZt6
     
  6. Zaphog

    Zaphog Poo-Bah (2,730) Sep 23, 2011 Michigan
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    I think it'll come down to Spruce and Cup A Joe. I was hoping for Turtle Stout though since I've never had that one (out of the 346 Short's Brews I've rated on BA).

    I'd be happy with either Aorta, Spruce, Publican or Joe. I'm shocked that Key Lime, Julie, Rye and Chief made it this far!
     
  7. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    I, too, was hoping for some of the older ones to make it farther for the same reasons (which is why I'm kind of happy Rye is still in it).

    Not that I'm anxious to do this again (or at least too soon) but I wonder what it would look like if the styles were mixed from the beginning and brackets were determined strictly by BA Rating (counting off by fours). Maybe some time down the road.
     
  8. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Initiate (39) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    Yeah it sucks one has to go home.
     
  9. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    All right, Short's Fans. Here's the link to the ESTER EIGHT. Get in while you can.

    This round will run until 11 pm TONIGHT May 30. After that we go to the Final Gravity Four.

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    Link to vote below!

    https://forms.gle/5ZGf2aFM7dhM1hZt6

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    Teaser: The are already three very clear favorites and one race that could go either way still....
     
  10. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    15 minutes until the poll is closed. Remember, the winner of IPA/PALE will take on FRUITY/SOUR/SPICY and the winner of DARK/TOASTY /ROASTY will take on the EURO/MALTY winner in the Final Gravity Four.
     
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  11. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    I hate to post and run but it's been a ridiculously long day. I'll give some data tomorrow but for now I'm posting the link to the FINAL GRAVITY FOUR. This round will end Tuesday night at 11 pm

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    LINK TO VOTE BELOW

    https://forms.gle/qxgqEVRHNyEzJQbb9
     
  12. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Spruce v. Joe? Cruel world, I hate you!
     
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  13. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (474) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Was hoping this would be the final match up!
     
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  14. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    That was my thought too. Whoever wins this matchup is going to be an unbelievable favorite and finals.
     
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  15. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,644) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Agreed, spruce v joe is the only logical finals match up. That said, I'm pulling for spruce now. Tons of great coffee beers all over the place these days but so few people know the absolute glory that is a well done spruce pilsner/pale lager.

    I would absolutely love to see a mixed 12 of the final gravity four though. I mean it's missing some heavy hitters but it would be pretty sweet.
     
  16. Buck_Jones

    Buck_Jones Devotee (482) Jan 22, 2014 Michigan

    This is a really good point. So much so that it swayed me from what I was gonna vote. Spruce it is.
     
  17. Zaphog

    Zaphog Poo-Bah (2,730) Sep 23, 2011 Michigan
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    Pint cans of Spruce Pils would be nice!
     
  18. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (474) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    That would be awesome, I'll settle for a non sampler pack release at this point.
     
  19. Sparty1224

    Sparty1224 Devotee (439) Jun 18, 2014 Michigan
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    Um... how is Key Lime in the Final Four? It's seriously the worst Short's beer I've ever had. Great in theory, but horrific in execution.
     
  20. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    You never has Cinnabilly then?
     
  21. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Haha, I was waiting for this one. I'm gonna be that guy and quote myself...


     
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  22. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    I'm off with the family for the day, but before I go I wanted to say that Key Lime, Spruce, and Cup of Joe were huge winners, all with more than 80% of the votes in their match ups. Rye Not? won with a little over 54% of the vote. Now that we have radically different brews matched against each other, I'm very curious to see how it shakes out
     
  23. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (474) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    I personally thoroughly enjoy Key Lime Pie. The one I'm amazed about is Rye Not still being in it and beating a great brew like Chief Hopper. Rye Not was bottled once like 7 years ago, amazed it's still here.
     
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  24. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,644) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    The thirst for more rye beers is real and growing
     
  25. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Founders doing a MI-only Red's Rye release made me quite happy
     
  26. Sparty1224

    Sparty1224 Devotee (439) Jun 18, 2014 Michigan
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    Well, it's true! I can see people liking it for sure. It's just not my thing!
     
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  27. Sparty1224

    Sparty1224 Devotee (439) Jun 18, 2014 Michigan
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    Oh I has it, but I feel like that was so long ago I can barely remember it.
     
  28. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    One day and six hours to go in THE FINAL GRAVITY FOUR. I would gladly call any one of these brews a champion, but I can't. Only one may stand.

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    Get yer votes in while you can!


    https://forms.gle/qxgqEVRHNyEzJQbb9
     
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  29. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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  30. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Okay, ladies and gents, here are the results for the FINAL GRAVITY FOUR:

    99 Responses

    Spruce Pilsner 86.87
    Cup of Joe 13.13

    Rye Not? 22.22
    Key Lime Pie 77.78

    The GREAT 2020 SHORT'S BREWING TOURNEY CHAMPIONSHIP will begin shortly......
     
  31. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (474) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Wow, I personally voted for Spruce, but did not expect it to spank Cup of Joe the way it did.
     
  32. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,928) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Here it is, the end. Rounds of voting. Weeks of waiting. Thanks to everyone who has made this one fun, wild ride. Makes me glad to know I'm not the only one who has a love for the creative folks at Short's. They've had their hits and misses, but I think this tournament has shown there's been more hits than misses.

    Again, thanks to you BAs for participating, suggesting, arguing (with good humor!) over the results. This Tourney wouldn't be half as fun without you guys.

    Here's the contenders in no particular order:

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    "Made with fresh limes, milk sugar, graham cracker, and marshmallow fluff, we were able to recreate this popular dessert into a heavenly drinkable version. The prominent flavors are immensely sweet, yet tart, with subtle hints of graham cracker coming through in the nose and remain on the back of the palate. A Gold Medal Winner at the 2010 GABF."


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    " India Spruce Pilsner is an Imperial Pilsner, fermented with local, hand-picked blue spruce tips. The spruce presence, rooted in historical brewing practices, is enormous and gives the beer a refreshing gin quality. This beer is impressively light-bodied, considering the immense spruce flavors and the prodigious additions of hops."



    *******LINK TO VOTE BELOW*******

    https://forms.gle/mjBpcx1o6L3an3JW7

    Voting will run through Friday, June 5 at 11 pm.
     
  33. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,891) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Yeah, that one's a shocker! I voted for Spruce until this last match-up. Maybe I should have stuffed the ballot box for Joe. :wink:
     
  34. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    I think I will be happy when Spruce wins, forcing Shorts to distribute the wonderful beer to their entire distribution footprint.
     
  35. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (474) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    I will be voting for Spruce, but would welcome six packs of both of these brews! And Cup of Joe.
     
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  36. Zaphog

    Zaphog Poo-Bah (2,730) Sep 23, 2011 Michigan
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    I got Spruce taking 90% of the votes.
     
  37. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,644) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    This feels, as a current outsider, like a bit of old school Short's (circa 2010-12, when I was last living in MI) vs. New school Short's (started noticing it on visits to family circa 2014/15?)
    Always they made interesting brews using novel ingredients but it seemed like it was often plays on unusual styles, now it seems like a lot of the odd ball stuff I see (mostly on here, but also when I visit) is these "dessert" beers aimed at emulating particular known foods.
    No judgement either way just an observation
    Also, spruce all the damn way! I would rent a private jet and fly direct to Bellaire for a mixed case of spruce pilsner and autumn ale (winner of the Spiderman Award for Obviously Being Wrongfully Terminated Early due, no doubt, to Voting Shenanigans)
     
  38. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Spruce Pilsner needs to be distributed in its own 6 pack again. Not more brew pub only or variety packs. The people have spoken and are continuing to speak. Do it!
     
  39. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Devotee (474) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    Yes! It's getting tiring every year running around to different places that break up their sampler packs in order to get more than a couple of them.
     
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  40. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    As I have said many times before, variety packs are like satellite/cable packages. You pay alot for the one beer you want and a bunch of others that you are not sure about. Why can’t I just buy the one I want and leave the others behind. I don’t want the Hallmark Channel IPA
     
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