The Growler Question

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  1. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Veteran BA's or anyone who knows about growlers,

    I want to make sure I'm doing this right. After purchasing two growlers the other day, one has been consumed already so I googled how to properly wash out a growler. Let me get this right: step 1) thoroughly rinse out with hot water twice; step 2) let it dry upside down. Do this immediately and not let it dry without rinsing it after several hours after the entire beer from the growler has been consumed.

    Trusting fellow BA's on this one just to make sure I'm doing this right? Any feedback? Any extra thoughts?

    Thanx ahead of time.
     
  2. Luv2Brew422

    Luv2Brew422 Initiate (46) Jan 7, 2012 California
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    this is what i have always done and it seems to work. although i rinse with hot water probably 3 or 4 times instead of just 2. then once thoroughly dry, i re-seal the growler so no dust or bugs get in there
     
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  3. JakeT469

    JakeT469 Disciple (317) Jan 13, 2012 Colorado

    That's exactly what I do and have never had any problems. However, after you rinse twice and let dry, if it still smells like beer repeat the process. Very simple and easy. Stick to that.
     
  4. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,295) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
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    I just rinse until it doesnt smell like beer.
     
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  5. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I give it a quick rinse or two, then stick it under the faucet on super hot water and just let it run for a couple of minutes. Then let it soak for a bit in case any old beer is clinging to the sides, then empty, rinse a couple of more times, and it's good. Always just smell if you're unsure.

    The key is to get to it immediately - if you kill a growler and let it sit around for a bit you're in for a stank-ass growler that is tough to clean as the beer dries on.
     
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  6. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    So is the point to not use any soap?
     
  7. OddNotion

    OddNotion Devotee (478) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    If you let the growler sit too long Oxyclean works wonders but make sure to rinse it out a few times after that as it will leave a slimey residue on the glass after the first dump of the growler. Since I am a homebrewer and use growlers both for filling and for yeast starters i am in the habit of using oxyclean followed by a starsan rinse but thats because I have both on hand already.
     
  8. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    fat or oil based detergents (most dish soaps) can leave a residue on glass that will kill the head.
     
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  9. BigGene

    BigGene Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2010 Florida

    On this line of thought, I had a 1 gal growler of Cigar City Florida Cracker white ale break in the back of my SUV this past weekend.

    I cleaned the carpets, and even pulled up as much of the carpet to get to the metal underneath as possible. My truck still smells like stale beer. My wife wants to pour vinegar into the places we could not get to. WOuld that work?
    It is starting to come through the AC too....
     
  10. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,602) Nov 16, 2009 California
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  11. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Yeah, it's bad, as kzoobrew stated, and also unnecessary. If you must, pickup something from a homebrew shop. But as long as you get to it quick you'll be fine with just water.
     
  12. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (3,032) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    rinse hot water repeat, repeat again, always works 4 me
     
  13. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    hey guys, thanx for the feedback.
     
  14. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

    I put really hot water inside half-full, place cap on, shake like hell, pour, repeat about 4-5 times, then run hot water in it for a few minutes, dry upside down, put cap on, and place it on the shelf.

    I always fill it with hot water and put the cap on and shake/dump it a couple of more times before I leave for a place that I think I'll get it filled at.... just in case any tiny bugs were trying to grow in there since the last time I cleaned it.
     
  15. Rback

    Rback Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2012 New York

    I only allow bugs in my growler if they are less than 2 weeks old & still hopping otherwise the flavor they provide mellows too much for my taste.
     
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  16. LiquidTable

    LiquidTable Initiate (0) May 3, 2011 Michigan

    The whole hot water thing is perfect. Never soap or detrrgent as others have said. If you want to be thorough, do the hot water rinse 3 or 4 times, strongly agitating the water, then sanitize with starsan, or I prefer good old fashioned iodophor.
     
  17. NiceTaps

    NiceTaps Savant (908) Nov 21, 2011 New Jersey
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    I rinse mine the same way the thread is going - 3 or 4 times with hot water, allow it to dry thoroughly, then cap it.
    And I better do it correctly. The tender at the local growler station takes the bottle, opens it, and checks the smell before filling. Now that's a BA.
     
  18. poopinmybutt

    poopinmybutt Initiate (82) May 25, 2005 Nebraska

    do you guys never wash your glasses with soap either
     
  19. HeadyBeer

    HeadyBeer Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2009 Pennsylvania

    When storing your cleaned growler do not snap it shut like someone posted. You can trap moisture and it will grow mold. I just rest the lid over the hole. You could plug it with a paper towel if you are really worried about dust. A good beer store will rinse your growler with sanitizer and rinse with water before filling so I don't worry about dust.
     
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  20. ewright

    ewright Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2007 North Carolina

    Correct. Either soap or beer can touch a specific glass, but never both.
     
  21. Nuggethops

    Nuggethops Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2010 New Hampshire

    I rinse with hot water but also use the one step rinse sanitizer you can buy at homebrew supply stores for cleaning brewing equipment and bottles. Never had any issues
     
  22. gothedistance

    gothedistance Aspirant (214) Jul 23, 2009 South Carolina
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    Would baking soda be possible? That works really well
     
  23. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I try to avoid it when I can. As stated previously, fat or oil based detergents are not ideal the problem is trying to find a non fat or oil based dish soap. White vinegar works wonders when cleaning glassware, great for removing mineral deposits from hard water too.
     
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  24. GoGators

    GoGators Crusader (712) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    Not washing glasses with soap? Sometimes I think we all think too much about these things. I just got into the growler fills myself so will avoid the soap, based on what has been said here but have never had a problem with glassware and always wash with dish soap. A good long rinse seems to work fine.
     
  25. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,357) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Every place I get Growlers from they just swap them out. I bring in a dead one they give me a fresh one filled, I've never had to reuse my own growler.
     
  26. MichPaul

    MichPaul Zealot (596) Jan 28, 2012 Michigan
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    Wow that is VERY cool! I've only ever filled my growler up at Founders and it seems like they have just filled it up and handed it back. I don't mind though, it's all tasted good coming out of the thing! I've just rinsed mine with water as well. Growlers don't seem to do much for price savings though, so I haven't filled mine up in quite some time. I love a growler full of Breakfast Stout though!
     
  27. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Ultimately it is personal preference. I will say that the no soap argument does have some legitimacy, it is what the Brewers Association recommends. http://www.draughtquality.org/w/page/18182205/Glassware Cleaning
     
  28. beerwolf

    beerwolf Initiate (22) Feb 23, 2012 Washington

    I used to do this until one morning the growler exploded, sending hot water and glass everywhere. I'm not joking. Just a word of warning.
     
  29. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (685) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I just wash everything with soap to be sure. I've never found it to affect the head and still get really nice lacing with a lot of beers. I just rinse out the soap a ton of times to make sure it's as gone as it can be. I'm a bit of a clean freak, so if it's affecting my glasses, oh well. Never have had a problem though.
     
  30. RedMedicine

    RedMedicine Aspirant (223) Jun 3, 2005 Oregon

    Man, if I lived my live with that level of obsession and attention to detail, I think I might miss quite a bit of what was going on around me.
     
  31. elgiacomo

    elgiacomo Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2007 Georgia

    I agree. Closing the cap can also trap off odors too. I work at a store that fills growlers and we've seen that even if they've been rinsed multiple times with scalding hot water until any beer smell is gone, allowed to fully dry and then capped back shut, more often than not, a day or two later the beer smell will have re-appeared. Now, we always recommend leaving the lid off after rinsing/drying and so there are no off odors at all. No worries about dust since we rinse and sanitize before filling.

    Also, don't forget the rinse off the cap! We see this a lot. Super-clean growler but a cap covered in moldy beer...

    Doesn't hurt to wash the outside of the growler with soap and water from time to time too as they can get pretty grimy over time from fingerprints and such.
     
  32. lemongelo

    lemongelo Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2008 North Carolina

    I would use homebrew sanitizer.
     
  33. lucas1801

    lucas1801 Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2012 Massachusetts

    Being a homebrewer does have it's advantages for these situations. I don't worry about soap in my glasses any more though, just rinse well.
     
  34. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,088) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I don't, I scrub and use hot water, no soap. Soap residue is bad.

    As for growlers I add one step after rinsing, which is to use star san after a thorough hot water rinse.

    In NYS every growler filler is required by law to have a capability to clean rinse growlers brought in for fill. I always take them up on it.
     
  35. cosmo4u

    cosmo4u Disciple (352) Nov 18, 2010 New York
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    agreed. Ive never walked into defiant or cable bev. without them giving my growlers a good cleaning before the fill!
     
  36. howopeeps

    howopeeps Aspirant (235) Mar 7, 2011 Ohio
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    What about storing a filled growler. In the fridge or cellar
     
  37. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    ive also read about the "no-soap" on glassware many times, but honestly just can't be bothered by it and haven't noticed any ill effects....not to say it's not true, it just doesn't bother me

    what about dishwasher soap? is that fat/oil based? i seem to remember that it might be different that liquid dishsoap? my sturdy pint glasses go through the dishwasher (delicate stuff is handwashed), so i might be following the "no soap" rule by accident. and if that is the case, ill switch to sprinkling some dishwasher powder into my growler instead of liquid soap when it needs more power that just hot water
     
  38. BellportBeer

    BellportBeer Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2006 New York

    Simple. Rinse with hot water 2x and dump. Make sure you clean the cap. Fill again with hotter water, cap and shake like you are in a 7.2 earthquake. Dump and rinse. Dry upside down. Take a small piece of paper towel and put over the opening, and cap loosely for storing (over paper towel) any condensate left will be absorbed by the paper towel. no chance for mold. I've been doing growlers at my store for almost 5 years, this seems to be the method that works for most of my regulars.
    If it's a dirty, nasty one, run it through the dishwasher, then try the above. Or make it into a lamp. Or throw it at your nieghbors car, (if it is deserved) it makes a nice dent, and leaves a mess for them to clean up!
    Cheers!
     
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  39. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    Boy, that escalated quickly! :p
     
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  40. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Crusader (736) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    Even though I have glasses that are for my use exclusively, I do use a little soap on the lip of the glass and rinse it immediately with hot water then with cold water.
     
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