The next "it" hop?

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  1. jojo2112

    jojo2112 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I don't know if it was due to the hops, but I recently had the Flying Dog Single Hop Series HBC-291 and it was one of the biggest letdowns I've ever had in a beer. I love Flying Dog and have liked or loved all of the other single hop releases, but this one tasted like a lager to me. Might have been the worst DIPA I've ever had.
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,549) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    The breeder of that hop thinks it does well in lagers. So you got it correct. Not all hops are used for DIPAs.
  3. jojo2112

    jojo2112 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Interesting...thanks for the info...
  4. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,374) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I thought the Flying Dog Single Hop Ella was outstanding. Possibly one of my favorite so far from their series. Very unique flavor coming through in that hop strain (in a good way). Is there any other brewers making a splash with the Ella hop? Someone mentioned Oskar Blues IPA. Any of the current big-gun IPA brewers in this country made a Ella hop showcased IPA/DIPA that was noteworthy?
  5. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,158) Jan 8, 2004 California

    Just read the entire thread and I can't believe I'm the first one to mention this.

    IDAHO 7.

    Just had Ritual Brewing's Single Rye series with this hop. Mind=Blown

    Apricot forward with lotsa tropical notes and a hint of Earl Gray tea.
  6. emount91

    emount91 Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2015 Connecticut

    you're the first because IDAHO7 is brand-spankin-new. last post before today was February.
  7. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,158) Jan 8, 2004 California

    That makes sense and certainly explains why I had to read it in its entirety.

    So much for my bold prediction, eh? :rolling_eyes:
  8. Warren2621

    Warren2621 Pooh-Bah (1,571) Sep 26, 2014 Indiana
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    I don't know about "it" hop but mosaic is awfully popular this year. Simcoe too
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  9. Spindletop

    Spindletop Zealot (523) Jun 4, 2003 Massachusetts

  10. jimmypa

    jimmypa Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Not really anything new but loving me some Galaxy hops right now. Also seeing an increase in Galaxy single hopped ipas and actually just home brewed a Galaxy Double IPA with 12oz late addition/dry hop pellets for a 5gal batch. Gonna be a juicy mother f-er, still dry hopping in the secondary at the moment, can't wait to get into that!
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  11. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 California

    Eureka would be a good one to keep an eye on. You heard it here first.
  12. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,843) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    I really liked the Ella-hopped Umbrella IPA from Pelican in Oregon-- it's one of their core beers now, so ignore the "no longer brewed" tag:
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  13. Squire

    Squire Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi

    Any next it hop will work for the next new thing consumer.
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  14. Boat

    Boat Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2014 Minnesota

    Two summers ago while traveling I stopped at Schafly in St. Louis and they had a single hopped Ella IPA/PA and it was fantastic. Bought a couple growlers to take home with me. I've yet to find any other Ella hopped beers that compared.

    Haven't tried the Flying Dog yet but I'm skeptical since I don't think I've ever liked anything they've produced.
  15. sweetcell

    sweetcell Crusader (423) Dec 6, 2013 Maryland

    i don't know if there will ever been another "it" hop on the scale of citra, simcoe, or mosaic. when citra and simcoe came out, there were few new hops being introduced and their flavor/aroma were like nothing before them. nowadays, new hops with the same outrageous tropical/pine/dank/juicy fruit/etc. are being released weekly. the space has been flooded. take mandarina bavaria for example: over-the-top citrus, nothing else like it, yet no one is declaring it the new "it" hop because it's sharing space with so many other flavor bombs.

    Aside: idaho 7 has been around for a year or two...
  16. WellRested518

    WellRested518 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2014 New York

  17. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    I would love to see more Galaxy hopped ales. I have only had one that I know of and it was superb.
  18. Squire

    Squire Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi

    Tallgrass 8-Bit Pale Ale uses Galaxy hops to great effect, I was pleasantly surprised.
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  19. JohnnyMc

    JohnnyMc Maven (1,477) Feb 14, 2012 Ohio

    Vic Secret.

    Been seeing it in more beers and Hoof Hearted put out a Vic Secret single hopped DIPA that was awesome!
  20. IpaBeerDrinkers

    IpaBeerDrinkers Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2014 California

    Galaxy is awesome, i expect to see it more due to Nelson shortage
  21. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,549) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Did they have a poor growing year in NZ?

    Both NZ and AU have limited acres of hops to start with, a bad growing season just makes supply worse.
  22. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,520) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    See I found it to be meh.

    Jack, I read how Azacca is supposed to be really fruity and tropical, when I seemed to get a lot more floral, earthy and dank weed flavors. Maybe it was the beers I had which carried a huge malt bill that danked it down a bit, but still.
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  23. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,069) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Keith I bought a 6-pack of the Founders Azacca beer a few months ago. I thought it was an OK-good beer. My wife enjoyed drinking more than I did. As I am typing this I don't really recall the specific aroma/flavors of this beer but I do recall that I thought the aroma/flavor level was subdued in that particular batch of beer. I also remember that the batch was relatively fresh (about 2 months old) so the beer should not have experienced much in terms of hop fade. Maybe Azacca is just not a potent hop?

  24. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,549) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    I found Azacca to be grassy in a Homebrew. I wasn't wild about Founders Azacca either.
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  25. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,069) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Jeff, have you homebrewed using Azacca with other hops? I was contemplating brewing an Azacca/Mosaic IPA. Do you have any thoughts on this combination?

  26. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,549) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Mine was Azacca with a little Jarrylo. I won't do that again. Mosaic may overpower Azacca, in a good way.
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  27. djuhnk

    djuhnk Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2013 Minnesota

    I sort of disagree, mandarina isn't on the same level as citra, mosaic, Galaxy, Amarillo, simcoe, Nelson and a couple others I'm missing. It's just not as punch you in the face. It's still in very high demand though/ either that or in short supply.

    A couple others I see as top tier hops but aren't recognized as top tier quite yet- Azacca, and El Dorado

    We did a few azacca SMaSH beers at the brewery I work at- I described the flavor as "strawberry marmalade, and papaya"
  28. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Idaho7 wont be the knew it hop. Its great in a single Hop IPA but really isnt strong enough for an Ipa using multiple hop varieties
  29. Ricelikesbeer

    Ricelikesbeer Maven (1,317) Nov 29, 2006 Colorado

    I was going to mention the same hop. I've had a single hop IPA (taproom only experiment) at Avery which used only these hops. It was really good, but couldn't pick out any extremely unique characteristics about these hops. To me, they covered a nice range of classic flavors, without anything too negative about them. They were fairly floral and citrusy to my recollection. I'm sure we'll be seeing many more beers coming out soon which feature this hop variety.
  30. holzwama

    holzwama Initiate (0) Aug 27, 2015 Minnesota

    I used Azacca with Citra and Mosaic and it was great. Most hops would be great with the other 2 though!
    Anyway, I wasn't blown away by the Founders Azacca either, or their Mosaic Promise for that matter.
    I've heard of Idaho 7, so I might have to look into that.
    I just kegged a beer with Citra and Nuggetzilla/ Denali.
    Thought I'd throw that out there.
    I've had Mandarina and Ella too, but they didn't have the punch that Citra has, maybe good in backup roles. Same with Nelson, not great by itself, but solid. Of course, unless Toppling Goliath brews with it. Zeelander is great, but almost all of their beers are!
  31. tzieser

    tzieser Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey

    I would like to see more European varieties get more attention here in the stats.. Really enjoyed saphir, mandarina bavaria, etc. english EKG doesn't get the love it used to, same for french Aramis.

    That new mexican varietal, neomexicanus, is pretty interesting too.

    Personally, I'm getting a bit tired of the 'single hop series' trend. It was really fun for a while (lattitude 48 deconstructed was/is still a cool idea) but after having 'experimental pale ale feat. hop E5435834534905843' it started to get a bit old. I would rather have a tasty beer balanced by several varieties of hops/malts than a one-note single hop/malt bill experience. Just my opinion, of course.
  32. ssam

    ssam Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Just dryhopped my latest homebrew with 1oz each of your favs. I agree, they are very good.
  33. harsley

    harsley Savant (1,249) Jun 16, 2005 Massachusetts

    While it's not brand new, Galaxy is definitely more and more popular now. It's the current "it" hop if you ask me.
  34. michman

    michman Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2005 Illinois

    whatever it is, i hope its something other than the citrusy forward hops that are all the rage now. im hoping for something more earthy and pungent in that way.
  35. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,069) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Have you tried any beers which feature the Neomexicanus hops? That might be something you would like.

    The Sierra Nevada beer that was brewed solely using Neomexicanus hops had a predominant aroma/flavor of “earthy” for my palate.

  36. michman

    michman Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2005 Illinois

    thanks for that! i will check it out!
  37. Bluecrow

    Bluecrow Grand Pooh-Bah (3,125) Jul 16, 2012 New York

    At a recent event (May 2016) I heard two different brewers cite Hallertau Blanc and Mandarina Bavaria as relatively new go-to aroma hops for their IPA's. The samples were more floral and fruity than piney.
  38. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Galaxy is already very popular and used in alot of stuff. Therefore cant be the next "it".
  39. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (779) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    Barbe Rouge? It's got a really different thing going on... strawberry and cantaloupe. I'm loving the eponymous IPA from Burlington Beer Co. and it looks like Schlafly has been doing one too.
  40. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,549) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

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