The night we drank all the Bourbon County

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  1. eachnotesecure

    eachnotesecure Initiate (132) Feb 17, 2011 Ohio

  2. Ivegotmule

    Ivegotmule Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 North Carolina

    I need more friends with beers like these!
     
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  3. mcBrewsAlot

    mcBrewsAlot Initiate (178) Dec 3, 2008 Massachusetts

    Good read, thanks. Im surprised you didn't toss in nightstalker and big john.. IIRC they are all made with the same base beer as BC
     
  4. aasher

    aasher Poo-Bah (2,500) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    Just imagine the two four packs of KBS that you guys couldn't gotten for that!
     
  5. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    That seems high...I'm thinking about 6 bottles
     
  6. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    I'm going to buy some coconuts right now.
     
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  7. JustinMatthew

    JustinMatthew Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2011 Pennsylvania

  8. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    I think I've heard that too, but can someone confirm? Bought my first Big John the other day and have not yet opened it.
     
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  9. yankeepride

    yankeepride Disciple (373) Jan 16, 2011 New Jersey
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    You know what would suck about that tasting? Nothing.
     
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  10. yankeepride

    yankeepride Disciple (373) Jan 16, 2011 New Jersey
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    A shop owner told me that Night Stalker was the base for BCBS. Not sure how Big John plays into that family.
     
  11. JMagee

    JMagee Initiate (152) Jan 2, 2013 New York
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    To the best of my knowledge...the base beer is the same for Night Stalker, Big John and all the BCB(x)S varieties.

    Night Stalked is just hopped, Big John is aged over Cacao Nibs and the others, well we know about those.
     
  12. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    Great read. Makes me want to drink the rest of my Bourbon County Coffee
     
  13. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    ISO: That line up FT: Two four packs of KBS
     
  14. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
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    Sounds like the name to my new favorite song!
    " and last but not least... this ones called..The Night we drank all the Bourbon County!"
     
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  15. yankeepride

    yankeepride Disciple (373) Jan 16, 2011 New Jersey
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    You should also hold out for the $100 in gas it took to track down those two four-packs.
     
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  16. jokemon

    jokemon Disciple (314) Apr 3, 2007 Illinois
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    Oh man now I have a craving for bcbs cherry
     
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  17. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    Found em at two stores on the way to lunch while my friend drove, didn't bat an eye for those two four packs>The two bottles the next day though, I did have to drive 7 blocks down the street for. I guess I should have walked to save on gas.
     
  18. aderousseau

    aderousseau Initiate (78) Jun 22, 2008 Arkansas
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  19. redsand22

    redsand22 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Illinois

    how'd ya manage to try the Peanut butter and chocolate and the coconut?
     
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  20. Brew33

    Brew33 Champion (839) Oct 24, 2007 Ohio
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    I wish I could have made it....
     
  21. eachnotesecure

    eachnotesecure Initiate (132) Feb 17, 2011 Ohio

    One of the guys took a bottle of 2012 BCBS and put it into a Coconut for three days. It was flat but thankfully that is a beer that is great even when flat, it tasted great.

    The Peanut / Chocolate one was different, I think he used a tea strainer. It was heavy peanut but tasty.
     
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  22. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Champion (823) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    I know that's a fact for Night Stalker and BCBS. Brett Porter confirmed that at a tasting I went to. I didn't know Big John also had the same base, but it makes sense.
     
  23. mjshearer1

    mjshearer1 Aspirant (213) Dec 16, 2011 Michigan
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    Great read, though I have to say, I had Bramble a year ago and it has been one of my favorite variants yet (though I haven't had Vanilla yet, and I have yet to crack open my Rare). I liked it over Cherry Rye and Coffee. Of course, I'm a huge fan of raspberries too, so I'm likely biased. Plus, the extra year may have made the beer fall off as well, but man, I really really liked that one.
     
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  24. Drucifer

    Drucifer Devotee (453) Apr 16, 2012 Illinois
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    Night Stalker and Big John have the same type of malts used as Bourbon county. That's it. The hops and amount of base malts are different.
     
  25. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

  26. MarkLaFay

    MarkLaFay Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2010 Indiana

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought Bramble Rye was doodoo. I should have jumped on the BC rare when I had the chance. Just couldnt justify the cost at the time.
     
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  27. waltersrj

    waltersrj Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 Washington

    I was given a hand bottled sample (~5 oz) of the actual BCBS Coconut/Rye Whiskey cask from the one festival it was at and thought it was incredible. I know this isn't the same as what you had (obviously since yours was a home project) but it was incredible and they should bottle that one. Sounds like an awesome tasting.

    I recently got to try all the variants as well as the last couple years of BCBS and very much agree with all of your assessments. BCBCS 2012 is definitely fading but is still incredible. The first bottle I had about 4 months ago was outstanding (fresh BCBCS is one of my favorite all time beers) and the last bottle that I had within the last month was still great but missing some of the initial coffee taste.

    Cheers,
    Ryan

    PS - KILLER TASTING.
     
  28. mendvicdog

    mendvicdog Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2006 Maryland
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    You can find really good ones at the Natural Store.
     
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  29. ChiTownPackFan

    ChiTownPackFan Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2012 Illinois
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    I was lucky enough to be at the Day of the Living Ales that the Bourbon County Coconut Rye on cask was at and it was phenomenal - I just hope that this is the variation for next year as it was just fantastic. Best use of coconut in a beer that I have ever tasted by far!
     
  30. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Champion (823) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    So BCBS and Night Stalker don't actually have the same base? From what I was told at the tasting, it's the same base beer, but one stout goes into bourbon barrels while the other gets dry hopped.

    Awesome avatar, btw.
     
  31. Drucifer

    Drucifer Devotee (453) Apr 16, 2012 Illinois
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    My guess is it has the same base malt percentages, but a different amount as barrel aging does not add 3.5% in abv. A hypothetical example would be the following:

    Night Stalker: 80% base malt, 10% specialty malt A, 5% B, 5% C; 15 pounds total malts per 5 gallon batch
    Bourbon County: 80% base malt, 10% specialty malt A, 5% B, 5% C; 18 pounds total malts per 5 gallon batch
     
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  32. JMagee

    JMagee Initiate (152) Jan 2, 2013 New York
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    So as someone who doesn't know as much about the brewing side of things as he would like to, what outcome would this have in the end?

    It seems logical (to me) anyway (probably incorrectly) that by keeping the malt profile the same, your effectively creating the same beer, but using less total malt to keep the ABV a bit lower.

    Is it same to simply say that in your example the Night Stalker base, and I use the term loosely, is a "watered-down" version of the BCBS base? Or are there other things at play by decreasing total malt amount?
     
  33. Stevedore

    Stevedore Poo-Bah (3,426) Nov 16, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Oh wow I guess I'll hoard the remainder of my '12 BCBS now!

    Anyway, that is a disgustingly awesome tasting. Wish I was a friend of yours!
     
  34. augustg

    augustg Initiate (190) Sep 15, 2011 Illinois
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    Great Post. Thank You.
     
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  35. digdug1810

    digdug1810 Aspirant (241) Mar 1, 2011 New Jersey
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    Good to know, glad I have 2 cherrys a bunch of 2012 BCBS, and 2 coffees that I'll be sure to drink before any of the rest.
     
  36. brees6221

    brees6221 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2009 Western Sahara

    As someone who is planning a very similar tasting within the next month or so, I really appreciate the great write-up!
     
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  37. loafinaround

    loafinaround Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2011 New York

    big john is probably my favorite non-barrel-aged beer. So delicious. And oddly, I saw a few bottles of it on the shelf recently at a few shops near me. IMO, people should swarm for it!
     
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  38. Rhettroactive

    Rhettroactive Meyvn (1,302) Mar 28, 2009 District of Columbia

    The base beer for all the beer mentioned is GI's Cook County Stout. They use it for just about everything you'll find bottles of, from BCBS to Big John, etc.
     
  39. Drucifer

    Drucifer Devotee (453) Apr 16, 2012 Illinois
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    I guess you could call it that. My guess would be the increased abv in bourbon county makes it much more suitable to barrel aging. Lower malts (and subsequentially abv) also allow hops to shine through better. Night Stalker probably has a bunch of strong piney hops at the end of the boil and dry hop while Bourbon county probably has a lower alpha acid hop such as Willamette that is strictly used for bittering.
     
  40. brees6221

    brees6221 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2009 Western Sahara

    Which means that every "complete" BCBS tasting that didn't include Cook County Stout is deemed null and void, and must be repeated. :eek:
     
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