News The White House releases honey-based homebrew beer recipes

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,551) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    It's official. Today at 1:30 EDT, Sam Kass (White House Assistant Chef and the Senior Policy Advisor for Healthy Food Initiatives) posted the recently petitioned White House beer recipes on The White House Blog.

    And here's the recipes ...

    • 2 (3.3 lb) cans light unhopped malt extract
    • 3/4 lb Munich Malt (cracked)
    • 1 lb crystal 20 malt (cracked)
    • 6 oz black malt (cracked)
    • 3 oz chocolate malt (cracked)
    • 1 lb White House Honey
    • 10 HBUs bittering hops
    • 1/2 oz Hallertaur Aroma hops
    • 1 pkg Nottingham dry yeast
    • 3/4 cup corn sugar for bottling
    1. In a 6 qt pot, add grains to 2.25 qts of 168˚ water. Mix well to bring temp down to 155˚. Steep on stovetop at 155˚ for 45 minutes. Meanwhile, bring 2 gallons of water to 165˚ in a 12 qt pot. Place strainer over, then pour and spoon all the grains and liquid in. Rinse with 2 gallons of 165˚ water. Let liquid drain through. Discard the grains and bring the liquid to a boil. Set aside.
    2. Add the 2 cans of malt extract and honey into the pot. Stir well.
    3. Boil for an hour. Add half of the bittering hops at the 15 minute mark, the other half at 30 minute mark, then the aroma hops at the 60 minute mark.
    4. Set aside and let stand for 15 minutes.
    5. Place 2 gallons of chilled water into the primary fermenter and add the hot wort into it. Top with more water to total 5 gallons if necessary. Place into an ice bath to cool down to 70-80˚.
    6. Activate dry yeast in 1 cup of sterilized water at 75-90˚ for fifteen minutes. Pitch yeast into the fermenter. Fill airlock halfway with water. Ferment at room temp (64-68˚) for 3-4 days.
    7. Siphon over to a secondary glass fermenter for another 4-7 days.
    8. To bottle, make a priming syrup on the stove with 1 cup sterile water and 3/4 cup priming sugar, bring to a boil for five minutes. Pour the mixture into an empty bottling bucket. Siphon the beer from the fermenter over it. Distribute priming sugar evenly. Siphon into bottles and cap. Let sit for 1-2 weeks at 75˚.
    • 2 (3.3 lb) cans light malt extract
    • 1 lb light dried malt extract
    • 12 oz crushed amber crystal malt
    • 8 oz Bisquit Malt
    • 1 lb White House Honey
    • 1 1/2 oz Kent Goldings Hop Pellets
    • 1 1/2 oz Fuggles Hop pellets
    • 2 tsp gypsum
    • 1 pkg Windsor dry ale yeast
    • 3/4 cup corn sugar for priming
    1. In an 12 qt pot, steep the grains in a hop bag in 1 1/2 gallons of sterile water at 155 degrees for half an hour. Remove the grains.
    2. Add the 2 cans of the malt extract and the dried extract and bring to a boil.
    3. For the first flavoring, add the 1 1/2 oz Kent Goldings and 2 tsp of gypsum. Boil for 45 minutes.
    4. For the second flavoring, add the 1/2 oz Fuggles hop pellets at the last minute of the boil.
    5. Add the honey and boil for 5 more minutes.
    6. Add 2 gallons chilled sterile water into the primary fermenter and add the hot wort into it. Top with more water to total 5 gallons. There is no need to strain.
    7. Pitch yeast when wort temperature is between 70-80˚. Fill airlock halfway with water.
    8. Ferment at 68-72˚ for about seven days.
    9. Rack to a secondary fermenter after five days and ferment for 14 more days.
    10. To bottle, dissolve the corn sugar into 2 pints of boiling water for 15 minutes. Pour the mixture into an empty bottling bucket. Siphon the beer from the fermenter over it. Distribute priming sugar evenly. Siphon into bottles and cap. Let sit for 2 to 3 weeks at 75˚.
    Download the PDF versions:

    Ale to the Chief!
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  2. pixieskid

    pixieskid Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2009 Germany

    Don't know why everyone wanted this recipe...those guys barely know what they're talking about and are using basic homebrew kits.
  3. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,551) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Everyone has to start somewhere ...
  4. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Zealot (582) Nov 24, 2009 California
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    That honey ale is a hefty brew, 6.6 lbs liquid malt, 1 lb dry, and a pound of honey!
  5. pixieskid

    pixieskid Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2009 Germany

    Fair enough and I will admit that it's certainly better than the Prez. drinking BMC...
    ditka311, Boz12 and doopiedoopiedoo like this.
  6. dauss

    dauss Defender (666) Aug 9, 2003 Colorado
    Industry Beer Trader

    Or being a teetotaler.
    beerhobo22, airforbes1, MrOH and 3 others like this.
  7. Mortarforker

    Mortarforker Devotee (453) Oct 27, 2004 Texas
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    I'd sure love a sip of that ale.
  8. splufdaddy

    splufdaddy Initiate (128) Jan 7, 2008 Connecticut

    Anyone have an all-grain version of this recipe?
  9. luwak

    luwak Aspirant (269) Mar 2, 2010 Arizona
    Beer Trader

    I was kinda surprised to hear that there was a porter. i expected only light colored stuff for some reason. (no absurd race jokes implied by my statement). i guess im always surpisrised when anybody who isn't pretty into beer chooses something darker.

    Well as if craft beer needed to be any further legitimized in America at this point, i guess this will help a tad.
  10. indy1

    indy1 Initiate (0) May 24, 2010 Florida

    I am a new homebrewer and have a question about the porter recipe. It says 10 HBU's bittering hops. Can anyone tell me what hops I should use and how much? Thanks
  11. superspak

    superspak Poo-Bah (9,613) May 5, 2010 Michigan
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    Somebody already made one on Hopville for the Honey Ale. The porter isn't there yet for AG but just fire up beersmith/brewtarget/beertools and it should be no problem

    Its an easy calc. It is just the AA%*ounces of hops

    so if you have 5% hops for bittering, you need 2 ounces. 5%AAU*2oz = 10HBU or Homebrew bitterness units
  12. RochesterAaron

    RochesterAaron Initiate (68) May 24, 2007 New York

    From John Palmer's How to Brew:

    Choose whatever bittering hop you have readily available (or that plays nice with your aroma hop) and calculate weight using the formula above.
  13. Briken

    Briken Savant (953) Feb 23, 2010 Washington

    The hard part is stealing the White House honey...
  14. mschofield

    mschofield Meyvn (1,463) Oct 16, 2002 Massachusetts

    oversparging that minimash on the porter
  15. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (958) Mar 17, 2009 Washington
    Beer Trader

    I wonder if they just buy a recipe kit and put honey in it.
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  16. rronin

    rronin Initiate (189) Jul 4, 2005 Washington

    reminds me of the old recipe that begins: "First, steal one chicken..."
  17. rronin

    rronin Initiate (189) Jul 4, 2005 Washington

    Please keep us informed is any micro-breweries undertake brewing up these recipes.....
  18. axeman9182

    axeman9182 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2009 New Jersey
    Beer Trader

    Well, there goes my vote for Obama. I'll only support a president whose administration brews all grain.
  19. precogpunk

    precogpunk Initiate (0) Jun 19, 2009 Minnesota

    Our next petition is to move the whitehouse to all grain. What's presidential about extract?? really?
  20. glitchedmind

    glitchedmind Initiate (0) May 8, 2012 California

    We can put a man on the moon, and remote controlled vehicles on Mars, but we can't do an all grain homebrew at the whitehouse? Awesome!
    His chefs can brew extract kit beers and add honey. I can make great macaroni and cheese from a box and add pepper. Anybody want that recipe?
  21. tylermains

    tylermains Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2010 Kentucky

    @1:50 "we'll transfer it into these and uhhh let it distill"

    at first my jimmies were rustled. Now it's lulz.

    I'm not so irked that it's not all grain, whatever... that can fly. But the 'brewers' don't really have basic fermentation knowledge or terminology down.
    antlerwrestler19, Boz12 and claaark13 like this.
  22. mschofield

    mschofield Meyvn (1,463) Oct 16, 2002 Massachusetts

    the fact that the White House is homebrewing is far more important for homebrew (and craft beer) than any quibbles about recipes or terminology

    I'm not going to pretend I knew all the terminology when I brewed my first few times, and that's where those chefs are at. They're also at a point most homebrewers never go past, and are perfectly happy making their beer at.

    I swear they could've put out the greatest IPA recipe known to man, and someone would complain they're using all the Citra
  23. philbe311

    philbe311 Poo-Bah (1,981) Jan 21, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I'm intrigued the Honey Porter recipe and may attempt to make an all-grain interruption once I work through my Pumpkin Ale that is now fermenting...
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  24. JEdmund

    JEdmund Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2006 Kansas

    Golly, bunch of nitpickers here! They're brewing beer, for the first time, in the White House. That's awesome, and we should celebrate it. Obama's being a true beer advocate.
  25. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    True. Staying away from politics, this can be nothing but good exposure for homebrewing. I can remember threads where people say that their friends won't drink their homebrew because they don't think it's safe.

    Well, if POTUS can drink homebrew, then you can too.
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  26. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    They're using a mini-mash... that's actually far more advanced than i was expecting.

    Good on them for showcasing homebrew with the public!
    Bmilla likes this.
  27. BILL808

    BILL808 Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012

    I would like to purchase a kit with all the ingredients to make these beers minus the honey. Is there anything out there available? This may be quite an opportunity for some ambitious entrepreneurs. Starting from ZERO. I mean ZERO. Quite a rookie, in Hawaii.
  28. TomTwanks

    TomTwanks Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

    What does the ABV calculate out on these? Just curious..
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  29. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Aspirant (276) Sep 24, 2010 Nebraska
    Beer Trader

    Perhaps the terminology, or lack of, is intentional so the content is accessible to the general public. Why would they cater a video to what some may see is a niche population? Same goes for the language in the recipe.
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  30. WynnO

    WynnO Defender (627) Oct 24, 2003 Florida

    I wish this would be the start of a tradition that would continue as long we are a Country. If Romney wins though, it could be dead...him being a Mormon. There's irony in there somewhere.

    I am against spending taxpayer dollars on unnecessary things, but since we do spend trillions every year, creating a permanent "White House Brewmaster" is something I would support. James Madison had the best idea though--a National Brewery!
  31. tfischl

    tfischl Initiate (137) Dec 28, 2005 Indiana

    If you are going to brew beer in the White House... you should be using hops grown in the USA (e.g Cascades/Wilamette) and how about using good old American Ale Yeast! Just my 2 cents!
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  32. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,285) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Considering who does the brewing, it is to be expected. I bet if the WH chef asked for one of your supper dish recipes he'd have equal lulz at your expense.

    I bet the brew came out great anyway, even with the cold water in fermenter, and the obvious noob understanding of the process.
  33. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    The all-grain recipe linked above shows 6.4% for the White House Honey Ale
  34. DovaliHops

    DovaliHops Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    The White House makes their own honey too? Obama is not only doing great things for the beer community by brewing beer, he's making his own honey too! He's a beer advocate and a honey advocate! Sign this guy up for another term already! :grinning:
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  35. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Its all out there. Just look around.
    Good luck with that.
  36. mjryan

    mjryan Zealot (578) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota

    People still consider extract brewing somehow inferior to all grain?
  37. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    I know for a fact that if you contact Austin Homebrew ( they would be glad to send you a kit with all the ingredients to make the beer. Heck, knowing JB they've probably already got the recipe in their system.
  38. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    This is great. Regardless of your politics, it's awesome to see that the leader of our country is interested in good beer just like we all are.

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  39. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    Overall, I love the fact that there is brewing in the White House. It will bring great attention to the hobby and craft beer. The recipes are just what I was guessing (which is why I didn't understand the excitement for them), basic starter kits. Which there is nothing wrong with at all. No issue with it being extract, I am guessing they are new to brewing. Through skimming the directions I definitely see some issues with their understanding of brewing, which is fine, everyone has to start some where and I know I am continually learning after 5 years of home brewing.

    First, I don't think they need to mash at all. Even though the Porter has some malt that can be mashed, I don't think a) it is worth the effort and b) there are enough enzymes in the Munich compared to all of the other malt. The Honey wheat definitely does not need to be mashed.

    Second, I cry a little inside anytime I see someone boiling honey. Honey is so delicate that boiling it hurts it's flavor. Boiling the honey for an hour in the porter is terrible. The five minutes in the Honey Wheat is debatable, but I would just add it at flameout. For one, honey typically cannot harvest bacteria, second even adding it at flameout with help sanitize it. Also, by adding five mins worth of boil time for the honey, they are adding time to the late addition hops.

    Not sure what step 4 in the porter recipe is there for. You want to start chilling your wort ASAP. Also, I think the suggestion of pitching yeast between 70-80 is too high. You want to pitch at the fermenting temp (65-72)

    Otherwise there are a few terminology things that are not correct. For one, the hops added at the beginning are not flavoring hops, they are bittering hops. The flavor compounds will be boiled off. Also, sterile water is not needed for the mash. Good quality water is needed, but the water does not need to be sterilized during the mash, it will become so during the boil. Though that is nitpicking, words like sterile, clean, and sanitized have specific and distinct meanings in brewing. They are correct to say sterile water is needed to top off after the boil though.

    Lastly, I know it is common to see this in many generic recipes and procedures, but a secondary is not needed for either of these beers. It would just cause more work and higher chance of oxidation and infection.

    Some of the good things are the specific mention activating the yeast, and the specification of fermentation temps. As a side note to those who don't know, that is the temp of the carboy/wort/beer, not the room temp. The fermentation temp can be 4-7 degrees higher than room temp.

    Like I said, I am not trying to be negative, I think this is great. Just pointing out a few tips, especially for those looking to start brewing after learning of the White House brewing.

    TL/DR: Good for the White House staff for brewing. Though some things can be changed / reworded it is great to see the hobby get some attention.
  40. El_Zilcho

    El_Zilcho Initiate (70) May 3, 2012 Virginia

    I think its pretty awesome. Any beer being made in the White House is a good thing if you ask me. I personally have been accumulating knowledge and supplies to begin homebrewing myself. I haven't figured out what I wanna do for a mash tun yet, I just know I dont want a plastic cooler. Anyway, Ive been thinkin of doing an extract batch in the meantime, and now with the election coming up I'm thinking one of these will make an awesome first batch to brew.
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