Thoughts on my first stout recipe?

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  1. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

  2. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (1,889) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
    Pooh-Bah

    Sure sounds good, but remember oak by itself is tasty too as long as you like the oak notes in the beer.
    You do seem to like brandy:slight_smile:
     
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  3. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I've been putting a bit of brandy in different beers and i really liked it in darker beers. brandy is one of my favorite liquors
     
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  4. ericj551

    ericj551 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)

    The recipe looks good, here are a couple of notes:

    Your three different base malts are very similar and I think any subtlety will be lost in this beer. It won't be worse with 3 but I would just save time and chose one.

    I would cut down the flaked oats/barley to around 1 pound total. Fine to use both or just one.

    Other than that your recipe looks good. You might consider brewing the beer first with out the oak, or doing part of the batch with oak since this is your first stout.
     
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  5. aobrehm

    aobrehm Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2015 Oregon

    If you're serious about wood aging, I would consider making a bigger version of this beer. Bigger beers (7.5% ABV and up) handle the aging process better, and you're definitely going to need to let this sit around for awhile to really let the oak/brandy flavors mature.

    To echo @ericj551, you might consider just brewing this recipe once without wood aging to decide if you like the recipe, then experiment with wood aging on a future batch once you've worked out the kinks.
     
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  6. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana


    that makes too much sense for me to be stubborn and ignore. if anything for this batch i'll put a gallon into a second carboy and do something with that
     
  7. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (1,889) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    anything I oak usually sits in the cellar for 6 months min befor I open one. oak needs time to mellow and blend. its amazing to see how the brew and oak notes change after 1 year.
     
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  8. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    yeah no way in hell i'm waiting that long right now lol. maybe once i get a second carboy but i'm trying to brew enough to where i dont really have to buy beer anymore. a 5 gallon batch every 2 weeks is probably gonna do it
     
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  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana

    @ghostinthemachine I say this with love, but it's a clusterfuck. You've got 3 types of base malt and 2 types of flaked malt. You won't need carapils in a stout. Adjust your mash temp higher if you want body, or pick a low attenuation yeast.

    For me a stout is 1 base malt and a pinch of other base malt, 1 flaked malt, 1 or 2 crystal malts, some RB, chocolate, (and patent malt. Optional.) I pick a moderately to high attenuative strain, (usually Euopean), and I come out solid. Just about half the beer I brew is in the porter/stout range.

    Band-Aids: I think I got really pissed off when someone tried to correct my first dark beer. I'm not saying your beer won't come out great. It might. I think there's a lot of effort there for muddling flavors. For me, stouts are all about finding the chocolate flavor that you want, be it subtle or heavy, and pitting that against the roasty flavors.

    A late hop wouldn't be out of place at all. Something at the 10 min mark. Fuggle if you got it. :slight_smile:
     
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  10. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana


    I took a recipe from a LHBS and adjusted it to 1.060 (instead of 1.075) and to 68% efficiency. In your opinion which base malt should i keep?
     
  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana

    Are you putting this brandy in the pint glass, or are you putting this in a bottle/fermenter? I'm curious to know if the brandy undergoes fermentation. I always cheer people on if they are putting things directly into their pint glass. It's for science!
     
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  12. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I've been putting it into pint glasses. I have a gallon of american brown ale in a jug with a cup of brandy and cherries. I'll let you know when i taste it if it dried out at all, there was a little sugar in it from the cherries. I'm guessing brandy alone would act the same in secondary as bourbon. Try putting 2 tablespoons of brandy into a pint of Guinness. Brings out a lot of soft vanilla flavors.
     
  13. inchrisin

    inchrisin Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana

    MO makes great beers. It's notorious for keeping a biscuity malty sweetness in beers. Excellent for English style beers. You can make a great beer with 2 row too. I' ve made plenty with subbing some cheap American 2 row into a recipe. If you go with 2 row, I'd get 1/2# of 40L or 60L in there. It tends to sweeten things up a bit, where the MO would have otherwise.

    I'm going to start drinking Guinness again, aren't I? :slight_smile:
     
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  14. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I really like brandy but i always saw bourbon stouts and brown ales for sale. it's pretty good in darker beers
     
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