Tobacco/nicotine beer - Has it been done?

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  1. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    So I just finally kicked cigarettes by switching to the e-cig, which basically vaporizes a liquid that contains pure nicotine. This got me thinking; has a beer ever been brewed with either tobacco or straight nicotine?

    Not that I think I'd want to drink this or that it's even a good idea, but curiosity takes a hold sometimes...
  2. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,482) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Not that I'm aware of but that would be a classic case of American Craft Beer Innovation. :wink:
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  3. cubbyswans

    cubbyswans Aspirant (238) Jun 10, 2008 Missouri
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    Add some Gingko Biloba, Guarana, 8000 milligrams of caffeine, and some B-12 and that sounds like something they'd sell at a rave.
  4. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    I still don't know what the hell guarana is. It sounds like some type of monkey.
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  5. stonermouse

    stonermouse Devotee (487) Aug 16, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I remember a Shorts brew at EBF last year that had huge tobacco flavor- I'm pretty sure it was described as being brewed with leaves. I was buzzed at the time- anyone else remember this?
  6. Derranged

    Derranged Devotee (484) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    Ive heard that nicotine is lethal if liquified. And I dont mean cancerous over time I mean lethal as in youd die shortly after consumption. I could be mistaken though.
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  7. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Zealot (527) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I just kicked alcoholism by switching from liquor to beer...
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  8. stonermouse

    stonermouse Devotee (487) Aug 16, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Ah, it was Shorts' The Gambler. Tasted like cigarettes. It reviewed poorly, but I kind of liked it.
  9. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    I've been looking into this whole thing a lot since switching to the electronic cigarette. A lot of people fill these with "juice" on their own, which can save a lot of money. The liquid itself isn't dangerous in that way if it's properly vaporized because you're only getting a small amount of nicotine.

    If you were to uncap a bottle of the juice, dump the entire thing into a beer and drink it, you would most certainly end up in the ER if you didn't die first. Pure nicotine on its own is highly, highly toxic.
  10. Crusader

    Crusader Aspirant (212) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden

    Well I'd make a distinction between nicotine and tobacco. Nicotine can be administered by those non-tobacco e-cigarettes or snus, whilst the flavor of tobacco along the lines of a cigarette, cigar or snus is a different matter all together. The flavor of tobacco can be quite pleasant depending on the individual, and if a beer happens to have similar taste characteristics to tobacco then all the better. It's a pleasant taste after all, to someone who is used to tobacco.

    To my knowledge no beer has approached the taste of tobacco however.
  11. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,446) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Homebrew - probably. Commercially - no way.
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  12. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

  13. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2011 Maine

    I've heard of some Italian brewer making a beer with tobacco...also heard that they can't send it to the US because tobacco in an alcoholic beverage (probably beverage in general) is illegal here or something.
  14. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    i actually love the flavor of pipe tobacco. i feel like it'd lend itself extremely well to something like a robust porter. smuttynose better get their goddamn act together.
  15. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2011 Maine

    "KeTo RePorter from Birra del Borgo, located about 70 kilometers east of Rome. The beer is a rich porter spiced with tobacco leaves (added during the final two minutes of the boil). Several other Birra del Borgo beers are available in the United States, however this one has had a little trouble getting label approval . . .
    Anyway, perhaps we should considered the power of persuasion, but KeTo seem to have a little pipe tobacco sweetness in the aroma and flavor and surprising spicy notes that set it apart from other porters. You may or may not like this, you may or may not think it is worth the price, but Italian small-batch brewers must ask more for their beers (they are spending 40 to 50 percent more than large brewers for ingredients) so they better be offering something different."
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  16. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    Leave it to the Italians.
  17. smithm1970

    smithm1970 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2010 Ohio
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    At the '99 GABF there was a tobacco stout..tasted like someone brewed in a spittoon. Strangely, everyone (myself included) wanted to try it to see if it was as awful as we was.
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  18. Stinkypuss

    Stinkypuss Poo-Bah (4,018) Apr 7, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Let me hit that
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  19. JdoubleA

    JdoubleA Disciple (313) Apr 27, 2011 North Carolina
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    Olde hickory brewing did a tobacco stout many years ago. It was actually maxim magazine's "buzz of the month" although I doubt they had any of it because I heard it was bad. I wasn't even drinking stouts way back then and I sure wasn't going to try that. They only made a little and haven't made any more.
  20. victory4me

    victory4me Zealot (547) Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    Victory Otto tasted like a beer that somebody used as an ashtray.
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  21. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2011 Maine

    Yeah...I love Victory...but that was straight up bottled ass.
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  22. SecondStage1983

    SecondStage1983 Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 Washington

    Oh don't worry I am sure Rogue will do something like this at one point or another.....
  23. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    Bwahahaha...although, I'd venture that DFH will get there first!
  24. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2011 Maine

    Yeah...doodoo brown bottle...Rogue Diner Breakfast Porter brewed with old coffee that sucked when it was fresh, runny eggs, cigarette butts, and the decaying corpses of hopes and dreams.
  25. bigdaddypolite

    bigdaddypolite Devotee (409) Mar 2, 2007 Minnesota
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    I get hints of tobacco here and there in different beers. Most tobacco flavor I have ever picked up is Alpine Great, and it was delicious. Never been a smoker, but I did work at a store with a tobacco shop way back...
  26. Stevedore

    Stevedore Poo-Bah (4,171) Nov 16, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I quit smoking by picking up alcohol! One vice for another.

    In all seriousness, it's a lot easier to consume a cigarette at lunchtime rather than nicotine beer.
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  27. WassailWilly

    WassailWilly Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2007 New York

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  28. Doppelbockulus

    Doppelbockulus Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 Florida

    KeTo RePorter isn't the only one from Del Borgo, they also make KeTo Re Ale. Ke To stands for Kentucky Tobacco. I would love to try these beers but unfortunately they aren't allowed in america yet. I don't smoke, and haven't used alternative tobacco products, but I would drink a beer with tobacco, it's the only way I would purposefully consume tobacco. Italy makes a ton of interesting craft beers, and I am personally fascinated by them as much as American craft beer.
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  29. Azzy

    Azzy Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2012 Texas
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    Send Sam at DogFish an email and it will be soon
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  30. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    Again, I really don't think I'd want to tackle this beast. I have enough problems in my life as it is.
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  31. adamette

    adamette Poo-Bah (1,715) Aug 23, 2007 Ohio

    Yes, here is my review from 2009...I can still recall a STRONG cigar tobacco presence in the beer. I am not sure that I would seek it out again, but as my review states, it was certainly unique!
  32. cubbyswans

    cubbyswans Aspirant (238) Jun 10, 2008 Missouri
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    yeah i fill an e-cig with 'juice'... It saves a ton/.. never dawned on me to drink the nicotine juice but i suppose it's a matter of time before some idiot does it and e-cigs refills are banned by brain-dead politicians. It is better to suppress millions to save the lives of two morons!
  33. Flashy

    Flashy Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont

    I have been sitting on the idea of coffee flavored cigarettes for years. Someone else can carry through with the idea if they'd like.
  34. 36cf

    36cf Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2012 Belgium

    There is a belgian tripel tobacco beer called Jean Nicot and its brewed at brewery De Graal.
    It is brewed in order for a belgian cigarclub. There using Java, Havana and Brasilia tobacco leaves but there is no nicotine in the beer.
    I've got some in my cave but i didn't drinked it yet.
  35. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Meyvn (1,167) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    It was brewed with Lapsang Souchong, a smoked tea, not tobacco.

    If you were to soak tobacco leaves in water the result would be very toxic and potentially deadly. Very bad idea.
  36. WeaponTheyFear

    WeaponTheyFear Aspirant (240) Mar 9, 2008 Connecticut

    I prefer to get my alcohol consumption through beer and my tobacco through Tomacco Juice. Let my keep my addictions separate please.
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  37. xnicknj

    xnicknj Initiate (0) May 25, 2009 Pennsylvania

    the result was almost as disastrous. one of the worst things i've ever tasted in my life (and i love short's).
  38. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Devotee (445) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    I have had the Keto Reporter quite good, a sweet porter that reminded me a bit of smoking a cigar, only lightly akin to how a cigar smells.

    Don’t think that brewing with liquid nicotine would be a good idea, putting enough into so that you could taste it would probably kill you.
  39. pghlee

    pghlee Initiate (159) Feb 24, 2006 Georgia

  40. Bluecane

    Bluecane Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2011 New York

    No no no, that's a French guarana.
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