Tobacco/nicotine beer - Has it been done?

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  1. TheBeerAlmanac

    TheBeerAlmanac Savant (967) Mar 3, 2011 Kentucky
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    DFH head won't brew an ingredient unless it's an undiscovered root berry relegated to the tops of trees within a 2 mile radius in the Amazonian rainforest that blooms every fifth leap year. Or hops.
     
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  2. hinemk76

    hinemk76 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I think I can see where this is going, and I'm just going to take it there. We need to get a Colorado or Washington brewery to brew some beer with weed.
     
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  3. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,156) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Oh, we've been there before on the forum - just last month in fact, for 5 pages.
     
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  4. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2011 Maine

    I heard they're pouring an unobtanium porter at this yer's GABF.
     
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  5. hinemk76

    hinemk76 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Hmm maybe I should search more often. I'm surprised I missed that as I come on everyday. Carry on.
     
  6. 6packofbas

    6packofbas Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013

  7. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    Let's chill on the hysterics. Snuff and chewing tobacco get ingested and you don't die immediately from it.

    Alcohol can also be very toxic and potentially deadly. Depends on the amount ingested. Same with nicotine.

    You could easily brew a batch of beer with a small amount of whole tobacco leaf and get plenty of flavor without a toxic dose of nicotine. Obviously, as it's been done.
     
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  8. RockAZ

    RockAZ Disciple (366) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona
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    An interesting subject, would like to acquire a bottle of KeTo to see for myself. Dropping a sachet of fragrant cured tobacco leaves in the last minutes of a boil on a porter seems like something I would enjoy. As for the flavoring experiments by the e-cig 'mad scientists', you could use the flavorings without the nicotine introducing after fermentation, they blend those with a glycerin solution containing whatever nicotine level you specify. The internet has places to buy the flavoring alone with no nicotine added to allow you to blend your own recipes. No reason to bring poisons into the beer, as long as the purist in you doesn't mind a bit of modern chemistry.
     
  9. djsmith1174

    djsmith1174 Aspirant (232) Aug 21, 2005 Minnesota

    I thought Schmaltz Genesis Ale had tobacco flavor the one time I had a sixer. I remember enjoying it quite a bit for that very reason.
     
  10. Tballz420

    Tballz420 Meyvn (1,176) Mar 4, 2003 Minnesota
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    I was researching putting some redman into a batch of homebrew, and from what I read the boiling process would extract the nicotine into a potentially lethal dose. It is probably one of the most dangerous drugs on the planet after all.

    As for brewing up a real "nugget nectar," it has been done with success, and it sounds awesome

    Psilo-saison is also on my to-do list
     
  11. Knapp85

    Knapp85 Poo-Bah (4,900) Dec 25, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I heard it can be leathal if you brew it. So I doubt that any beer has it in there. I orginally wanted to do an Imperal Stout with Tabacco leaves but did some research and people said not to attempt it because steeping it can release way more nicotine than when it's smoked.
     
  12. DHS1029

    DHS1029 Aspirant (252) Feb 14, 2013 Illinois
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    After smoking cigarettes for 8 years (have been tobacco free for about 1 yr 3 mos.) this is the last thing I would want to see in beer. Disgusting! The smell of tobacco alone is enough to keep me away now...
     
  13. DHS1029

    DHS1029 Aspirant (252) Feb 14, 2013 Illinois
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    I could go for a good Psilo-saison. That's one trip I would like to take ;)
     
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  14. Kinsman

    Kinsman Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2009 California

    What about smoking the malt over tobacco leaves? It would avoid the potentially dangerous effects of steeping the leaves and seems like it would get around the US regulation banning tobacco in beer.
     
  15. fineout

    fineout Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2010 Rhode Island

    There is coffee and/or cappuccino flavored tobacco for pipes, hookahs and e-cigs.
     
  16. TomClem

    TomClem Initiate (8) Mar 7, 2012 Nebraska
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    I'd recommend the OP starts experimenting with a decent stout, pipe tobacco, and a French press. Just like DIY BCBVS.
     
  17. daysinthewake

    daysinthewake Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2010 California

    There's a simple process to extract the nicotine from tobacco. The extract from just one pack of cigarettes will kill someone. I like beer, but I want it to kill me a bit slower.
     
  18. namyarb3

    namyarb3 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2013 Washington

    I've seen this pop up on the homebrewing website I frequent.
    It'll probably kill ya if you brew with it.
     
  19. beerexplorer1973

    beerexplorer1973 Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2011 Wisconsin

    A couple of years ago, O'so (Plover, WI) made their barrel-aged Night Train with tobacco for the Great Taste of the Midwest in Madison. It was FANTASTIC. Unfortunately, Mark explained that it is not legal to brew and sell alcohol with nicotine in it (at least in Wisconsin).
     
  20. mintjellie

    mintjellie Defender (630) Oct 2, 2005 Ontario (Canada)

    It's a climbing plant native to the Amazon. It's berries contain seeds that contain twice the concentration of caffeine found in coffee. It's really just another natural source of caffeine.
     
  21. mintjellie

    mintjellie Defender (630) Oct 2, 2005 Ontario (Canada)

    How do you plan on doing the psilo-saison? Aren't psilocybin and psilocin supposed to be very volatile when heated?

     
  22. mintjellie

    mintjellie Defender (630) Oct 2, 2005 Ontario (Canada)

    This would add a whole new dimension to alcohol addiction.
     
  23. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    Its Illegal at least in the USA
     
  24. Tballz420

    Tballz420 Meyvn (1,176) Mar 4, 2003 Minnesota
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    Yeah it would be added during the fermentation stage, not the boil. Probably just make a tea and then add it to the batch
     
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