Toppling Goliath coming to MA?

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  1. Hawkeyejam

    Hawkeyejam Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2017 Iowa

    Dorothy's is alot like Trail Magic was for Treehouse. A fine beer for the style but only so much you can do with it and generally gets left in the dust. I know TG pushes it because it's the original brew
     
  2. errantnight

    errantnight Savant (952) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    Just my $.02 but it's solid but nothing special. I don't buy it much here in Iowa (generally Pivo, Summit Keller Pils, Zwickel, The Crisp).
     
  3. errantnight

    errantnight Savant (952) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    It's also a huge seller out here, if there's a better Iowa brewed pale lager I don't know what it is (certainly not the ever-present Ruthie).
     
  4. mschofield

    mschofield Meyvn (1,406) Oct 16, 2002 Massachusetts

    All of their beers have been good to great. Pseudo Sue is fantastic
     
  5. Pudgemaster

    Pudgemaster Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2018 Massachusetts

    Found a four pack of pseudo at wegmans. Really enjoying it. Much better than the draft I had but again I think I attribute that to my taste being off from previous beers and weed.
     
  6. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Devotee (470) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    Grabbed a four of PS, pretty solid . 14$ for the four pack, wasn't blown away in comparison to Trillium and TH, but a solid shelf beer if found fresh
     
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  7. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,200) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    I got King Sue and some Pompeii when I last went home to MA. Both were good but unworthy of any comparison to Treehouse/Trillium, IMO....I actually preferred the beers from Foreign Objects and Proclamation more than I did of the TGs I picked up.
     
  8. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (473) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Picked up tonight at One Stop. 5 weeks old/$13 — absurd price but my stock is low and I knew it’d kill..and it is/did. Completely different beer than the golden nugget brewed w/.....shockingly....nugget hops that I had a couple of years ago. Can’t think of another brewery that has not only embraced the NEIPA craze but retooled 100% of their existing hoppy ale line up to all haze/juice. Better than most NE NEIPA producers and right there w TH/HF and Trill.
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  9. wasatchback

    wasatchback Devotee (413) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    They’ve been making hazy beer for a lot longer than most, doubt there was much retooling.
     
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  10. SenorQuesadilla

    SenorQuesadilla Initiate (82) Jul 18, 2014 Connecticut
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    I thought I read King Sue was hazy like a NEIPA now, is that not true? I traded for a few summer of 2015 and it definitely wasn't back then (looking at a pic I took to confirm my memory).
     
  11. 7irondave

    7irondave Defender (666) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    This is from the February drop
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  12. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    I grabbed a 4 pack of Pseudo Sue and a bomber of mosaic nugget over over the weekend. The pseudo sue was very hazy and looked completely different than the ones I had in 2014. It was still great but the beer has certainly changed over time. I was very disappointed in the mosaic nugget. It was muted in both the smell and flavor. Nothing I would buy again.
     
  13. Hawkeyejam

    Hawkeyejam Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2017 Iowa

    SupaSumo DIPA bombers look to be dropping today. Very good beer.
     
  14. MrDarcy

    MrDarcy Devotee (401) Aug 28, 2013 Massachusetts
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    3rd MA drop of TG beers over a two month span.

    An abject failure with regard to distro :wink:
     
  15. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Aspirant (293) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    dropping in MA or IA? How does it compare to King Sue?
     
  16. muzzy

    muzzy Disciple (321) Apr 1, 2013 Massachusetts
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    These dropped in MA at a few spots (cbc fenway, fort point market)...not sure how it compares to King Sue though.
     
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  17. Hawkeyejam

    Hawkeyejam Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2017 Iowa

    King Sue is better but Supa is an awesome beer. It's hard to compare since King is a dipa of Citra hops. Supa uses Mosaic and Citra. It's delicious. You'll like it
     
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  18. -Rick

    -Rick Zealot (519) Dec 22, 2014 Massachusetts

    The new Bacon's Wine & Spirits in Framingham got a drop of Supa' Sumo along with all the other TG beers. Supa' is killer!
     
  19. DeweyCheatem-n-Howe

    DeweyCheatem-n-Howe Initiate (0) May 23, 2015 Massachusetts

    Wegman's in Burlington has Supa and Psuedo.
     
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  20. Argento

    Argento Aspirant (255) Mar 25, 2016 Rhode Island
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    More like Blah Sumo. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine beer. But nothing to lose yer shit about and freakishly overpriced for what it is in a bomber. I wouldn't buy it in cans for 12 bucks a 4 pack. Too much other good stuff around. And I like TG beers.
     
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  21. Hazehazegoaway

    Hazehazegoaway Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2018 Massachusetts

    Really? Maybe my pallet has drastically changed but pseudo tastes like how fort point use to. I feel like all the trillium beers have adopted that overly bitter finish recently.
     
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  22. SpauldingSmails

    SpauldingSmails Initiate (158) Sep 11, 2014 Massachusetts

    The Psuedo I had last evening just felt way more carbonated than what we get from Trillium. That's not a comment on better or worse, just different...and refreshing.
     
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  23. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Aspirant (293) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Talked to a distributor rep while buying some TG stuff in Leominster. He said that Fire Skulls should be the next bomber we see. I know that I will grumble about the price, but will still end up buying one. I asked him about beers moving to cans and he speculated that King Sue would be in cans by June.
     
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  24. killamonjaro

    killamonjaro Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2017 Massachusetts

    to me it seems like this stuff is priced wildly different depending on where you go. I see $14 four packs, $13 bombers. I went to CBC and got 2 bombers, a can of sue and a can of tanker truck gose from two roads and it was $35. I thought that was absurd
     
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  25. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Aspirant (293) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    You seem interested in this thread, so I figured I would share my thoughts on the TG beers I have had in the past few weeks. King Sue>Hop Smack> Mosaic GN>Supa>GN>Psuedo> Pompeii. I didn't buy Dorothy. And for comparison- King Sue may be my favorite Double Ipa at the moment. I really enjoy that it has the New England fruitiness while still having a hop bite. Basically, it still tastes like a "beer"
     
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  26. cskollmann

    cskollmann Initiate (67) Apr 30, 2008 Massachusetts

    CBC is always priced higher on everything. Wish they'd invest the profits into cooler space. Gotta pay for the mad luv I guess...
     
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  27. Hawkeyejam

    Hawkeyejam Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2017 Iowa

    Im an interested observer indeed. TG is the home brewery. I get a lot of TH,Trillium,Alchemist,etc. and intrigued on how it stacks up.

    If I had to rate my favorite TG beers would probably go

    KING SUE
    Fire,Skulls, and Money IPA
    DDH (Citra) PseudoSue
    Hopsmack
    Supa Sumo
    Sosus
    PsuedoSue
    Pompeii
    Mosaic GNug
    Golden Nugget

    Including those that have hit distro in your region along with 2 favorites you will be bound to see soon/eventually

    FSM I bet you get next drop in cans. It's ridiculously good as is DDH Sue.

    Plenty of other good ones as well that will come around in rotation. If you ever have a chance to try their Stouts(reg and BA), oh my
     
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  28. Hawkeyejam

    Hawkeyejam Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2017 Iowa

    Toppling is transitioning from bombers to cans and they are behind the 8 ball

    PseudoSue and it's variants were regularly 9.99 a bomber(22oz) in Eastern IA. When Decorah started brewing in cans you could get 16 oz 4 packs for 9.99.

    Not all beers will get the 4 pack treatment but the two best I'm, King and FSM, have been announced will and everyone should be.extremely happy!
     
  29. juliolugo

    juliolugo Initiate (93) Jun 22, 2015 Massachusetts

    haven’t had my supa’ sumo yet, but for the rest, my thoughts exactly.
     
  30. wasatchback

    wasatchback Devotee (413) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    GN over Pseudo Sue? And Sosus? Really? NugMo was interesting I’ll give you that.. Galaxy DH Pseudo is pretty rad but still below KS and Sosus for me.

    A few of the x-hops beers have been good. Gold and Teal maybe? Can’t remeber?? Had just as many that were not awesome as well.

    Stoked for cans, bombers are soooo 2005.
     
  31. juliolugo

    juliolugo Initiate (93) Jun 22, 2015 Massachusetts

    I knew I was forgetting one.

    King Sue>HopSmack>Sosus>Mosaic GN>GN>Pseudo>Pompeii.
     
  32. DeweyCheatem-n-Howe

    DeweyCheatem-n-Howe Initiate (0) May 23, 2015 Massachusetts

    Ok, Supa Sumo is the absolute tits for me. Simply fantastic vehicle for Mosaic hops. Loved it. Would go nuts for a four pack in cans.
     
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  33. colby600

    colby600 Crusader (797) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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    Looks like Scorpius Morchella is coming this way in the future. I'm intrigued as it's one of the few I haven't tried. Large price tag on this one I'd imagine.
     
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  34. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    It's gotten label approval for 16oz cans, so they will be coming eventually.
     
  35. ichorNet

    ichorNet Poo-Bah (2,095) Mar 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    PseudoSue absolutely lived up to the hype for me. I will be buying it a lot this Summer!
     
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  36. Pudgemaster

    Pudgemaster Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2018 Massachusetts

    Had a Pompeii tonight. Pretty good. I prefer pseudo sue so far but those are the only two I’ve tried from them.
     
  37. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Supa sumo is pretty blah. So was mosaic nugget . Pseudo is still my favorite. I won't buy another bomber of TG. I don't see the comaprisons to Trill or TH at all. Good beers but flavor, smell, and mouthfeel are well below for me. Im an occasional customer for sure but I'll still take fort point over all the above.
     
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  38. wehaveamap

    wehaveamap Aspirant (208) Jan 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Was a big fan of the standard Golden Nugget can I had, just about exactly as good as Pseudo to me. Not interested in the bomber at 2+ times the cost and in general I'm pretty meh on mosaic on top of that. Could just be the phase of their seasonal rotation we’re in but the lineup is definitely mosaic heavy for my tastes.
     
  39. LukieBL

    LukieBL Initiate (104) Jun 10, 2015 Massachusetts

    King Sue absolutely compares to TH and Trillium, it's completely on the same level.

    Put KS up against Dopple or literally any Trillium double and it wins for me

    At this point, Id take a fresh KS over most Treehouse doubles save Juice machine or VH
     
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  40. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (473) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Compare p-sue from 3 -4 years ago w/today’s p-sue. The prior version was very brassy in color and while Citra juicy — was more along the lines of Zombie Dust than FPPA. I’ve been trading for this beer for a long time - it has absolutely changed in a big way. If I had to guess I would say the new version is dry hopped during active fermentation and they likely switched to a more ester driven yeast. Without these changes —old p-sue would be getting panned right now by the NEIPA fans boys...
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