Trade value of vintage Beat?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Cinderbike, Mar 28, 2012.

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  1. Cinderbike

    Cinderbike Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Nevada

    I haven't traded much lately, but this weekend I put up a FT thread for batch 5 and my inbox was full within about half an hour... Not super surprising given the hype/anticipation but I was still taken aback.

    Got me wondering though, what batches 2-4 are going for? I have a bottle of each left and I'm curious what others are trading them for.

    Would an 'almost vertical' land most whales?
     
  2. futura123

    futura123 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 California

    What kind of "whales" you want to land? "Whales" right now is a really broad category, people think King Henry is a whale, Rare is whale....so it's hard to give out a specific answer.

    You can trade Beat 2-4 for comparable sours like Veritas, DDG, Cable Car, Twisted Spoke...
     
  3. Cinderbike

    Cinderbike Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Nevada

    Sorry,

    Examples like:

    Rare/discontinued Cantillon e.g. Brabantaie, Zwanze
    Isabelle
    DDG

    Etc
     
  4. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2008 Texas

    Rare = 3
    Isabelle = 4/5
    DDG = 3
    discontinued Cantiloons = 3-6
     
  5. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I have no idea what this even means?
     
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  6. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2008 Texas

    Apologies, I missed the point.
     
  7. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Rare and DDG would likely trade 1:1 with the B2-4 bottles. In fact, 2 Rare for 1 Beat.+ could get done.

    Isabelle might take a little more than 1 bottle, but not something too big. 2 Beat. would likely be an easy trade

    Retired Loons are a different story since they range from Crianza to Soleil/Loerik in rarity (rare to ultra rare). A Crianza might be 1:1, I know several of people with multiples. Brabantiae, Zwanze 2008, 50N4E, and Nomad might require the whole vertical. Don Quixote, Loerik, LH12, Soleil, Pikkulin, Reed, etc might be possible with an International trade, but very unlikely
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    edited for correctness :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  8. futura123

    futura123 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 California

    I agree. Somehow, international community don't regard Beatification that high. It's hard to blame them when they grow up with Cantillon. When Vinnie went to Akkurat, bartender there recommended him to stop making sours since they don't find them appealing. Luckily, Vinnie doesn't listen to them :wink:
     
  9. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Yeah I thought this too, but for some people that might have a couple bottles of Don Quixote and would like to try something else.
     
  10. johndoe8

    johndoe8 Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2010 California

    based on what i'm reading here, i'm shocked that people think rare is 1:1 with ddg.
    i want another ddg... lets see how many bites i get for rare.
     
  11. brandon0350

    brandon0350 Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California
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    What would it take to land a Beatification Batch 1 or PH1?
     
  12. forgetfu

    forgetfu Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2007 Colorado

    Multiple rare loons (rare being crianza helena type beers) or maybe one ultra-rare loon
     
  13. brandon0350

    brandon0350 Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California
    Trader

    So no AWA like Izzy, DDG, or Veritas? Im thinkin about trying to land one, but dont want to clean out my cellar doing so..
     
  14. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Pooh-Bah (1,955) Nov 26, 2008 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I doubt that. I'm trying not to trade right now, or I'd put a Beatification out there and test out your theory. :slight_smile:
     
  15. bkrueger

    bkrueger Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2007 California

    What would it take to get a Beatification 003 (750ml)? Would a combo of Beatification 004 and 01/10/12 feasibly be able to get this done? I've put out that ISO before with no responses, so I'm kind of interested in what it would take to get a batch 003, or what other beers would be needed to land that one.
     
  16. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,533) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    I read it as him asking if it could land Rare AND/OR Discontinued Cantilon. I didn't think it had anything to do with Bourbon County.
     
  17. bauermj

    bauermj Initiate (0) May 4, 2009 Illinois

    It wouldn't surprise me for a vert whore to swap a b3 for a b4+b5. Personally I would probably wait until I've had a b5 or two before I commit one of my older 750s but it seems fair to me.
     
  18. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Pooh-Bah (2,177) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I see B4 becoming more "valuable" in the future, if only for the fact it was a 250-300 bottle release.
    I traded a BA Brandy DL for a B3 and a Temptation B4 750. Both sides were happy.
     
  19. craytonic

    craytonic Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2008 District of Columbia

    It varies batch-to-batch, but outside of PH1 (which I recently traded a splinter gold for), there isn't much of a ticker's draw to the older batches and it is very clear they will continue to produce and release it (unlike one-offs like many of the cantillons others have mentioned). I think much of the hype on this one is created by those with bottles and I think it would be silly to trade loreik/helena/blauw/roos etc for it.
     
  20. readbaron

    readbaron Initiate (0) May 12, 2010 Illinois

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