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Trading "Pet Peeves"

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by jp7161, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. jp7161

    jp7161 Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    Something that really gets my goat is when someone posts an ISO:FT and you respond with exactly what they listed out and you get no response. - This goes out to you SpeedwayJim.

    At the very least respond with something like this

    - Thanks for you offer, but someone else responded sooner
    - Thanks for offering what I was asking for, but someone else offered up a bigger want
    - I know you offered up what I was asking for, but I changed my mind
    - I know you offered up what I was asking for but you're a dick and I don't want to trade with you.

    I guess in short just respond with something. If I am off base with this let me know.

    Any other "Pet Peeves"
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  2. Photekut

    Photekut Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2006 Tennessee

    If you are referring to a Wanderer for Rare trade based on recent threads, did you see this on his post?

    "EDIT: This one is closed. I got about 20 BMs since I posted this 20 minutes ago... you people are animals. Will work something out with as many people as possible but I apologize if I don't get back to you as there were too many offers."



    Looks like that was way down on his list anyway...

    If you are not referring to that, maybe it is because you have JoshVandy listed as a trader.
    ...see bad trader list
  3. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (3,349) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    I agree with you wholeheartedly - it's annoying when someone who's looking for a trade doesn't bother to answer an inquiry. It doesn't happen often, but I generally make a mental note the person isn't responsive & move on.

    However, some advice, which is worth exactly what you're paying for it - calling out a specific person, especially one that's been around a while, is just going to start a poo-storm. Much better just to lay out your peeve in general terms without getting specific.
  4. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    Defining "off-the-shelf"
  5. AldoRaine

    AldoRaine Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2012 Prince Edward Island (Canada)

    Someone telling me, "the $4$ is off" when it's less than $5. blegh.
  6. pschul4

    pschul4 Zealot (562) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    My only pet peeve is not winning the trade
  7. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    This. When its a 1:1 trade and its a 15 dollar bottle compared to a 20 dollar bottle? yeah, I might ask for a random shelf beer. When its a 12 bottle shipper of rare crap in the 150-200 dollar range and you take issue with 5 bucks difference? I'll trade with somebody else.
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  8. mklever42

    mklever42 Initiate (199) Apr 28, 2012 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Lack of communication. Days upon days before any response. Drives me effing nuts....than again, that is a relatively short putt anyway.
  9. jp7161

    jp7161 Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    I offered the two Armand's, which he listed. All I ask is that you get some kind of response.
    I determined from the Crickets that Wanderer wasn't going to get it done.

    The only reason JohVandy is there is I made a successful trade with him with no issues. I will delete him now since you mentioned it.
  10. DSlim71

    DSlim71 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2010 New Jersey

    When someone replies to an offer, then adds "I know that this is more than you might think I would ask for, but you have to understand this is a rare and tasty brew"

    Man that really grinds my gears.
  11. jp7161

    jp7161 Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    Fair enough - personally I don't mind getting called out for things I have done, or failed to do, if they are in bad form so I didn't think about it. It's not a personal attack on anybody, just a pet peeve of mine.
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  12. given2flybrewing

    given2flybrewing Initiate (85) Dec 19, 2008 Missouri
    Beer Trader

    It becomes personal when you list names.
  13. jp7161

    jp7161 Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    I just don't view what I said as an attack, and to clarify I did not see that he had edited the ISO:FT so I apologize and I have sent a BM to Speedway as well.

    So I am glad someone called me out on my mistake.

  14. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

    My biggest pet peeve in trading is usually the person I'm trading with.
  15. jmarsh123

    jmarsh123 Meyvn (1,309) Mar 31, 2010 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    My biggest pet peeve is people refusing to trade their walez to me for off the shelf expired IPA's. Come on, where's the advocacy?
  16. jrnyc

    jrnyc Champion (834) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    You guys need to relax, if someone doesn't respond to your BMs, it could be for many reasons, such as a lot of responses. Nothing to get upset over.
  17. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,443) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Exactly what I came in here to say.

    I can't stand when people self pimp their beers.

    "Just to let you guys know this is probably the best beer I've had EVER and it was a really limited release [yet he has multiple bottles of it for trade often, ha]."
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  18. drewba

    drewba Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Illinois

    Followed by "I just want to spread the love"
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  19. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,443) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Followed by an ISO of:

    BA PiaPT
    One off Cantillon/3F
    BA DL
    3x KH

    Willing to add locals!"
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  20. Pahn

    Pahn Meyvn (1,448) Dec 2, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    my only pet peeves in trading have to do with the bullshit people post. even stuff like "terrible communication" can just be solved by calling off the trade--no harm no foul.
  21. pschul4

    pschul4 Zealot (562) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

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  22. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

    trading "Pet Peeves"?

    Whoa buddy, this site is beer for beer only.

    Or is Pet Peeves the new barrel aged beer from Half Acre?
  23. pittsburghkid66

    pittsburghkid66 Initiate (38) Dec 24, 2009 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    My pet peeve is completing a trade, because then I actually have to box the crap up and pay to ship it out. I hate that.
  24. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,062) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    My biggest pet peeve in trading has gotten worse lately. It is when my shipper accidentally switches a box I am sending with another box full of radioactive rabid lemurs. This has happened three times this year, I'm pretty tired of it.
  25. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (3,349) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    It's not about being upset, it's about two things: (1) simple politeness in responding to someone who's reached out to you & (2) communication. (2) is key to any trade, & if Person A doesn't have time to respond with an "I'm set" or "Thanks, but all good here" then frankly I don't trust that person to communicate in any future trade.

    Too many good traders out there to try to strike up a match with anyone who can't be bothered to type two or four words (& probably texts 369 times that many every day).
  26. wittyname

    wittyname Initiate (193) Aug 4, 2012 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    I mean, say what you like about the tenets of being a bitter old man, Dude, at least its an ethos.
  27. FTowne

    FTowne Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 Missouri

    They could spend 15 seconds of their time to tell you that they have a deal done or they're simply not interested. That way you can move on.
  28. AldoRaine

    AldoRaine Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2012 Prince Edward Island (Canada)

    One more I forgot since I haven't been trading much lately: responding to an ISO with exactly the beer(s) someone was looking for, only to receive a BM beating you up for more beers.
  29. huskermike12

    huskermike12 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2011 Vermont

    The worst is when you respond to an offer and get back the response that someone else offered more than he asked for followed by "what else can you add?". I always respond that is a great offer and they should take it. That seems to be followed frequently by "my other trade fell through are you still interested?". Nope.
  30. AldoRaine

    AldoRaine Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2012 Prince Edward Island (Canada)

    Same here...3-4th time in as many weeks, with this last one happening in the last 30 minutes. I'm about to throw in the towel.
  31. SpeedwayJim

    SpeedwayJim Poo-Bah (2,130) Jun 19, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    I don't even know how to respond to being called out... I've definitely been guilty of not getting back to everyone... But even though it only takes a minute to say no thanks, 20 responses equals 20 minutes.

    In my defense, I closed the thread about 20 minutes after I posted it and I specifically listed what my priorities were. Almost all the Rares got traded to locals as in persons trades.

    Also, I'm pretty sure my trading record is spotless. Not one of my 130+ trades across three years has complained as far as I know... Just sayin'
  32. HopsMatt

    HopsMatt Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2011 Kentucky
    Beer Trader

    So you got my lemurs?
  33. pmoney

    pmoney Defender (693) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    My pet peeve? POOR COMMUNICATION! Can't stand it.
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  34. Stewmeister91

    Stewmeister91 Aspirant (277) Apr 7, 2008 New Jersey
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    The person who is obviously offer the lesser beer, but wants to keep it $4$.
  35. podunkparte

    podunkparte Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Washington

    Back when we could comment on trade threads this used to get me every time:

    OP: Looking for a bottle of _______, willing to trade ________. PM with any questions.

    Noob: Oh, I have ______ and I'd love to trade it for ______. PM me.

    Seriously? Why should he PM you? Why don't you just PM him after seeing that he's clearly open to trading? It feels like someone seeing an ad for a bike for sale in the newspaper, but instead of calling the number and buying the bike, they take out an ad in the next paper, asking the seller to call them.
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  36. jrnyc

    jrnyc Champion (834) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    I never traded with you and I don' know you, but your guilty of nothing. 130+ spotless trades speaks for itself. You should have never been put in a position to defend yourself over something so insignificant. We have bad traders on here who don't get named for stealing beer from people and sometimes that takes days and pages and pages of posts before those people get named. Being called out specifically in a brand new thread for not responding to someone you never communicated with is a bit much.

    I have many spotless trades too and sometimes when I make a trade post I don't respond to everyone. It is what it is, it is not a bad reflection on a good trader.
  37. aasher

    aasher Poo-Bah (2,462) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    People trying to trade bottles that they don't even have yet.

    Like that guy from Iowa that tried to pretrade six CBS because he was on lists a month before the release...
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  38. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,443) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    "I will have 24 2012 DL, 12 2011 DL, and all the DL Variants up for pre-trade and in my hands after DLD 2012. Let me know if you are interested!"

    - SpottedZombie
  39. sarro

    sarro Initiate (163) May 12, 2009 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    "check my gots" when looking for rarer beer
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  40. cetherid

    cetherid Devotee (405) Aug 23, 2010 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    "this will never get done"

    "you'll need to offer a lot more"
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