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Discussion in 'New England' started by bring, Jan 4, 2019.
Just visualized the line when they drop a BA stout on Friday or next Wednesday
They had enough Very Gggreennn to cover about 960 people today and sold out around 4 PM. So essentially they had 1,000 people come though in four hours. I thought I had a good understanding of how crazy this place can get, but that blew my mind
Starting to regret never getting a driver's license. Ubering back and forth from Boston is a steep price to pay for what may just be 10 cans of beer tomorrow, but we do strange things when we're in love.
For me, it begins and ends with the fact TH sells Moment of Clarity cans for less than half their bottled stouts. All their bottled offerings seems like a relative gouge after that.
I also remember getting 750ml growlers of Double Shot for $10/fill back before the canning days. Tough to then pay $12 for 500ml.
But I fully admit my perspective is almost tainted because of my history. If I was going to some OTHER hyped brewery I'd never drank before, their stout prices probably wouldn't seem as bad.
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If your history is $10 fills for a 750, I get it. But to me their bottle prices are very reasonable. In Florida a 22oz MZ is going to cost me $18, AC bottles range from $22-35, Cycle $25-35. We have great stouts down here but they are very proud of them. I actually really like the 500ml bottles that TH is offering. That is something I can actually drink by myself. CCB started doing these on some releases but the last 500ml I bought from them was $20.
I definitely think the prices have something to do with how long the stouts last. I know lots of people spend tons of $$ at TH, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who walks in there with a budget. As I'm filling out my card and starting to run up against my spending limit, I typically ask myself, "would I rather have one double shot, or three extra cans of Green?" And the answer is always the Green, or whatever core IPA they have that day.
I will say that not long ago i would be ditching work early and driving in horrible rush hour traffic to make it out to tree house if they released a double shot or some other bottled stout. I'm still very much interested in the stouts, but i guess i've lost the fomo and i realized my bank account cant handle spending $100+ on a couple of bottles, especially when they release them this often. It's just nice to know that when i do decide to go next there will most likely be stouts available.
I think the bottled stouts sitting is related to them completely flooding the market with them this year. 2018 saw a drought of Double Shot from Christmas 2017 until October, when suddenly they started coming fast and loose. For a while there it felt like we were getting a new stout offering every week, and there's only so many varying adjuncts tossed into in what I'm sure is largely the same base stout you can take before people just lose interest.
Good Friday last year when they dropped Impermanence was close to a full parking lot wrap and nearly a 3 hour line. Now it sits for weeks along with the other bottles. High price + high supply and high limits means hype/demand takes a nose dive.
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!
You all make very good points. I still find it hard to accept the "high price" being a factor, but perhaps I am just looking at it wrong. Perhaps Florida stout makers are asking too much for their beer.
are those prices for non barrel aged stouts???? Yikes
It's too much and it's not enough. People line up and buy it within hours of release at some of those FL breweries. It's slowed down a bit for most of Cycle's releases, and Cigar City always has plenty of inventory for most of theirs, but for the most part, the market will bear it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Those ranges covered both BA and non-ba stouts.
Good read here:
Tree House fastest growing Mass.
and this quote shows how a miss step (cutting pay ect...) can have HUGE effect .
"Outside of Central Mass., regional brewers didn't see much, if any, increases. Canton-based Trillium Brewing Co., typically ranked alongside Tree House as the highest-rate beer in Massachusetts, reported a 6% decline in 2018 despite opening a satellite brewery in Boston. "
I wonder how much, if any, of that 6% is from people making the trip to Tree House instead of Canton? I know that I personally have done a lot more purchasing from TH since their beer has become essentially limitless like Trillium. I am in Canton at least once a month for family stuff and I only go to Charlton for Tree House. Lest I be slayed on a cross of my anecdotal example, I am not saying that is the reason, just curious how many others are doing the same.
Never had an issue with driver's ed, but cars fundamentally give me anxiety and I don't like the idea of driving them. If that somehow makes me a child in your eyes then that is fine, if a little strange. Not sure what kind position you're taking. Should I wait until I'm 50 before having taste buds? Is this going anywhere meaningful?
I still believe this my have had an effect IMHO:
All About the Green — Trillium Faces Backlash After Cutting Pay Rates
Certainly is: crippling debt.
Hoping the rain will dissuade some people from coming back a second time today. Really want some KJJJ around 6pm
To be fair I really wouldn't pay those rates for the FL stouts either. But my argument is more that from the same brewery a somewhat comparable beer is made available for $5 or so per 16 oz can as opposed to 0.9 more ounces at more than double the price. In a vacuum vs all other breweries, sure the price isn't out of line. For me, I will still enjoy these beers from time to time but it is an occasional purchase; if others feel the same, that's your explanation for why the bottle stouts stick around.
To put my conspiracy hat on, I think TH heard a lot of criticisms in the past year about how there were long stretches of no dark beers available. So there is a conscious price point established and the bottle format chosen to ensure stouts are there if you want them, but that not every patron will pull the trigger. Nate has said on this site that the adjunct stouts are some of the more difficult brew days, so I bet their inclination is to use limits and pricing to keep the stouts around longer, rather than killing themselves on the production side.
Parking lot already has 3 full rows of cars over an hour before open.
At least they put it in cans-- $6! Zoinks!
And higher abv than original 2013 release
Nice catch, didn't see the 2013 reference in their post. They condone aging this one which means the lactose/diabetes haters will be crawling over themselves to get it. I'll probably grab a few and age one of them.
It is funny that it's half the price of TS with higher availability.
Space and Time was the Brimfield beer I regretted missing out on the most. Pleasantly surprised it's been brought back in some form after all these years.
lmao these crazies are lined up in the rain all the way at the corner an hour before open
They are the reason we can’t have nice things like chill vibes and an open bar.
I wonder if space and time was brewed in Brimfield? /s
Space & Time
Tree House Brewing Company
Stout - Russian Imperial
We're living in different times, folks.
This lisa and mike twitter account is fairly creepy. I am pretty sure this was the same one live tweeting the last anniversary party from their home.
Please define " is fairly creepy" , lol, Cheers
I am so happy I got 8 cans of Doubleganger yesterday. This definitely has to be their most underappreciated beer, and I'm glad it is otherwise I wouldn't be able to get 8 cans of it.
They day it gets up to a case PP is the day I finally succumb to my alcoholism and drink myself to death.
I'm really hoping it's still 8 come Saturday
Line is long but moving like crazy. Seen some folks from early in line leaving with just the 2 KJJJ lol
Would you be able to ask an employee if KJJJ will last the day? Sometimes they tell you
They should really let us know if there's a good supply
I would hope you are good. No case count on the site has meant good supply as of recently. But def get the stress some clarity on this one would be great...