Trillium Brewing Company (2020)

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  1. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (474) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    No, this incorrect, the new new website does have changes from the new website.
     
  2. mgp

    mgp Initiate (97) Jan 30, 2010 Massachusetts

    And it wasn’t quietly. They actually sent a newsletter about the new site. But let’s not let semantics get in the way of the fact that the new website is garbage.
     
  3. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (474) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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  4. DrewLS

    DrewLS Initiate (140) Oct 7, 2012 Massachusetts
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    The new website is silly.

    I'd really love to see the business case behind it. I'm sure it cost six figures and someone has to think the value to the brand will be more than that - but how I'm not sure and would like to know.

    Honestly if done right their website could be a single page plain text and everyone could get it what they needed from it. This seems like it was probably led by brand folks and they overestimated what their customers care about.
     
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  5. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (474) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    See post above yours. Plain text showing list of all available to go beers.
     
  6. oldbean

    oldbean Disciple (364) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Yeah but it's buried and it looks like an afterthought, when it's like 93% of what the website is actually for.

    Also, I get that we're being fussy nerds about this, but pretty much everything Trillium does is to try to appeal to fussy beer nerds so I feel like that particular brand of criticism is earned. This isn't some humble little one-man shop that can't be bothered with a fancy website, they spent a lot of money on this thing specifically to impress people.
     
  7. JK111

    JK111 Initiate (42) Dec 8, 2014 Massachusetts

    Website seems improved from prior version overall - new option on front page is choose: beers, then choose quick beer list and you can see all available options at each location - seems like they addressed previous issues with website and added this simplified option
     
  8. kinopio

    kinopio Aspirant (272) Apr 30, 2009 Massachusetts

    The coconut permutation stout is delicious.

    the website is a PITA
     
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  9. pointbreak

    pointbreak Initiate (50) Dec 16, 2017 Massachusetts
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    Cracked a perm 69 last night that I’ve been sitting on for a while, nice peanut butter smell and taste. Overall it was really good and really enjoyed it.

    I’ll jump on the bandwagon and agree the new website is trash. Way overdone and not necessary
     
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  10. hopley

    hopley Meyvn (1,207) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Completely agree - I think they're dumbing it down for mainstream users but who knows. "Trillium if you're reading this, please change it back to the way it was - you finally got it right, why can't you keep it that way!"
     
  11. hopley

    hopley Meyvn (1,207) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Yes, something of this sort - I do think they're trying to make it easy for mainstream beer fans as that's their M.O. - appeal to the masses rather than the select few (us). Whatever, and regardless, it's a mess, and even for mainstream users I'd bet it's still confusing and takes way too much time to navigate. As someone said - a simple one page list with pictures of what is available is all that's necessary. Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) is a popular business maxim that need apply here.
     
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  12. oldbean

    oldbean Disciple (364) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    How is that even a thing you can design for?

    The problem is that they punted on actually presenting what beers are available where in a concise and organized way. Instead you have to click on a bunch of stuff and work a bunch of drop-down menus, or else just scroll through beers one at a time. Trillium, your beers are $22 a four pack, you can afford to do the work for me.
     
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  13. hopley

    hopley Meyvn (1,207) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I'm not really sure they can actually design for mainstream [vs. beer nerds] effectively...but my point is that this is their growth market now, not you and me - and I think - they think - that their new design will help these folks navigate through the different styles more easily in order to help them better understand what their options are (so they can become familiar with these options, incent them to try more beer, and of course buy more beer...). Who knows? Instead, what they're really done is what you say - make it more confusing for everyone by ditching the easy well-designed one page format by adding all this scrolling / drop down menus, etc. Either way, they do seem responsive to feedback so I'm sure they'll get it right someday.
     
  14. parg0

    parg0 Initiate (64) Feb 22, 2018 Massachusetts
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    There still isn't a single place on the entire new site that shows on-site bottles. How they could overlook this/get this wrong is beyond me.

    I've tweeted at them twice asking how to find on-site bottles with no response. Their online/social media team continues to impress.
     
  15. inkman15

    inkman15 Devotee (431) Oct 28, 2013 New Jersey
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    How do the single can sales work at Canton? You can just request a single of anything they have in 4pks? Do they break up the costs proportionally (e.g. $20 4pk = $5 single can)?
     
  16. Justin42

    Justin42 Aspirant (227) Apr 3, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Yes to both
     
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  17. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Initiate (45) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire
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    I picked up a 4pk of DDH Melcher st. I probably haven’t had it in over a year and a half and was surprised how much hop burn there was . I will let them hang for a while and see how it turns out but I was still a little disappointed after dishing out $20.20
     
  18. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Zealot (543) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts

    The best hoppy beer I've had from Trillium lately is the gluten-free beer. Everything else has been meh, or in the case of anything DDH, burny as hell.
     
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  19. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (69) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    Maybe I haven't experienced a severe case but I kind of like hop burn. Unless what I am thinking is hop burn isn't.
     
  20. Sheppard

    Sheppard Meyvn (1,172) Mar 16, 2013 Virginia
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    I'm not sure it will improve. The hop burn has been my more recent experiences with DDH Melcher. The burn may mellow but the intended fruity hop character might as well.
     
  21. Dukies222001

    Dukies222001 Initiate (111) Oct 21, 2016 New Hampshire

    I will admit I have no idea what hop burn is everyone always talks about on here. 70% of what I drink is super hoppy and I still don't know. Lol
     
  22. AirBob

    AirBob Defender (664) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I think people have varying levels of tolerance for hop burn, but generally I think of it as an unpleasantly astringent flavor accompanied by a slight to moderate chemical burning sensation in the back of the throat - I usually get a chaulky feel in the back of my tongue and throat too.

    I tend to pick it up pretty consistently from beers that use lupulin powder (see most of Mystics double IPAs). Trillium's Never & Again was a model example.
     
  23. robo55

    robo55 Initiate (62) Oct 29, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I get hop burn from all of Tree House’s hoppy offerings especially the last sip of a can. Trillium is a major offender too.
     
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  24. Dukies222001

    Dukies222001 Initiate (111) Oct 21, 2016 New Hampshire

    Hmm maybe I'm just immune to it. Drink TH and Trillium a lot.
     
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  25. Sheppard

    Sheppard Meyvn (1,172) Mar 16, 2013 Virginia
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    Yeah, it sucks when you've poured a good glass and then you see the last drops go in and it's just trub and hop particulate and you know you just ruined your beer (applicable to both of these breweries).
     
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  26. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (474) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Shake your cans people...

    The funny part about this is that the new ferm profile was intended to soften out the harsh hop burn that was characteristic of Trillium's pale ales and IPAs. Now it comes back a bit and folks are complaining. Classic...
     
  27. Thomsboyle127

    Thomsboyle127 Initiate (15) Jun 13, 2019 Massachusetts
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    Holy complaining. I enjoy trillium albeit they are getting a little big fast, but good for jc and Esther. They pushed the envelope and people used to seek them out, still do. Most of the people complaining I bet have spent an arm and leg or traded the same for some of their beers in the recent past and were not disappointed. Enjoy it for what it is. Beer.
     
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  28. Sheppard

    Sheppard Meyvn (1,172) Mar 16, 2013 Virginia
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    "Come back" - hop burn's been there for a while, bud.

    Classic...
     
  29. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (69) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    I believe most breweries say decanting is the preferred method and surely you aren't shaking your cans before you open them, are you?
     
  30. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (474) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Plot twist...it was there the whole time!
     
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  31. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (474) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Shake shake shake
     
  32. 7irondave

    7irondave Zealot (574) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Honest question:
    Where are you seeing or hearing this? This may be true but the only brewer/brewery I remember talking about decanting was Noah or Peter Bissell and that was a couple years ago.
     
  33. LukieBL

    LukieBL Initiate (116) Jun 10, 2015 Massachusetts

    Swirl the last 2/3 oz of the can or don’t drink it.

    Is this a serious question ppl have?
     
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  34. rhino88888888

    rhino88888888 Initiate (119) Dec 12, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Loving that Trillium is doing Cask Fest and brewing traditional English beer styles but disappointed that half of the beers are 6.8% or above (17oz pours!). Can’t wait for NERAX for a true cask session!
     
  35. SnugTeam6

    SnugTeam6 Initiate (94) Apr 7, 2014 Massachusetts

    The real hop burn was the friends we made along the way...
     
  36. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (69) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    I thought I read it in a thread here with people giving examples. Then I remember thinking the majority of the examples landed on decanting.
    Alas, I cannot find said thread. I actually thought about not creating that post but then I chose the words "I believe" so I could cover my ass if I found myself in this very situation.
    What have you heard is the best technique for dealing with sediment?
     
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  37. Mikecap

    Mikecap Champion (804) May 18, 2012 Rhode Island
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    This thread is a great bi-weekly read.
     
  38. 7irondave

    7irondave Zealot (574) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Not exactly a "technique," I generally will pour about 12-14oz in the glass to drink then swirl the last 4oz or so and have that. The resulting sediment (if there is any) is usually pretty concentrated since it's only a 2-4oz supersaturated sip resulting in decent hop burn. I don't dislike it, it just tastes like a different beer.

    The Veil, Other Half and Trill (in that order) are the three that I find the most hop burn in. I generally don't find it (sediment) in fresh Tree House or even fresh Trillium for that matter. Maybe my concentrated sediment sips have built up my immunities to hop burn but I haven't experienced it in much Trillium lately.
     
  39. Stormfield

    Stormfield Initiate (142) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I haven’t been to Trillium in over a year, mostly because I became disappointed with and burnt out on the beer itself and the dog porn and baby fashion show at Canton. And the inside of that place is an echo chamber.

    But, I am intrigued by the casks this weekend. I live pretty close by, but I really don’t want to walk into a lined-filled shit show.
    Now that I’m done running down my gripes, what’s it like in Canton these days on Saturdays? I’m hoping that it’s at least a bit mellower than it was 2 or 3 years ago. Plus I wouldn’t mind trying their Pilsner. How is it compared to something like The Standard from Notch or Prescott from Honest Weight?
     
  40. Rysk22

    Rysk22 Aspirant (226) Nov 12, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Why not dilute the sediment more?