Trillium zwanze day

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  1. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    First, I'm super pumped to be able to attend this year. Just looking for some basic info. I know it's a ticketed event and all but should I expect a long line prior to open? Leaving from NY and just trying to plan my arrival.

    Second I imagine this is one of the busier days at canton facility. Do they typically, or do you think that the retail shop will run out of brews due to the influx of people? Wondering if it would be wise to grab beers to go before entering the event.

    Thanks for any input !
     
  2. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,153) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    They'll have plenty of beer there and there's no reason to line up before they open. The lines end up forming at the bars inside so there isn't really a way to avoid that. Last year, the line was big at the one pouring kriek/zwanze and the other bar was easy to get a drink at. They split different cantillons between the two bars so you could go to either.
     
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  3. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    What were they pouring at the other / easy one?
     
  4. mhull

    mhull Crusader (403) Apr 11, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Curious on what bottles were available last year? Fou Foune?
     
  5. dwmetsfan13

    dwmetsfan13 Zealot (708) Jul 22, 2013 Massachusetts
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    As I recall, the bottles were only Trillium. I think they had Classic, Iris, Mamouche, and Kriek from Cantillon on draft and the rest were their own (both draft and bottle).
     
  6. soheadyithurts

    soheadyithurts Zealot (515) Jan 4, 2013 Massachusetts

    180 tickets so it shouldn't be overly busy.
    Tilquin was pouring and Iris was grand cru. Other than that it was all trillium.
     
  7. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    They had 1 trillium option aside from the zwanze pour everyone gets? I looked at other hosts and places say there will be multiple options
     
  8. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,153) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I think at the easy line the Cantillons were Iris Grand Cru and Classic. From Trillium, I can only accurately say there was double red stonington. Probably a Soak and some IPAs on the other taps.

    I also remember the Kriek pouring slow AF. Maybe from foaming too much. So that could've been the whole reason that line was so long since most people were ordering it.
     
  9. sdaly3

    sdaly3 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2009 New Hampshire

    Instagram said a zwanze day info email will be sent out shortly. A buddy of mine just sent the Monks Zwanze draft list and it included, gueze,nath, st hilles, st lamvinus, vigneronne, kriek, zwanze. Hopefully we get quite a few as well.
     
  10. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    Yeah, I looked at other places hosting and they had a bunch of different ones.
     
  11. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    Well the teaser list consists of 8 cantillon options. Which is amazing. With "many surprises To come"
     
  12. soheadyithurts

    soheadyithurts Zealot (515) Jan 4, 2013 Massachusetts

    What are the 8 teasers?
     
  13. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    Kriek, rose, cuvée, nath, st lam, classic, zwanze, vignerrone
     
  14. mhull

    mhull Crusader (403) Apr 11, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Draft:
    Zwanze
    Classic Geuze
    Cuvee St Gilloise
    Vigneronne
    Nath
    St Lamvinus

    Bottle:
    Kriek 2017
    Rose de Gambrinus 2017
     
  15. bla211

    bla211 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2015 Colorado

    Damn, that is lightyears ahead of last year's draft list.
     
  16. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (1,897) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Anyone going to Seymour, or have thoughts on how the Seymour event went last year? Going there with some friends for the 2:30 session.
     
  17. dwmetsfan13

    dwmetsfan13 Zealot (708) Jul 22, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Yes it is and the entire approach this year seems much better than last year in terms of cost.

    Last year was $100pp for 2 glasses, 30 total oz of beer, 1 pizza, and an ice cream. This year is $15 for 1 glass and 1 beer (guessing 5 oz?) so unless the draft pours are exorbitantly priced this will end up being a much better deal.
     
  18. sandman3479

    sandman3479 Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2006 Connecticut

    Sad to say, but I very much disliked it. They did all beers as courses, which kinda took forever, and they didn't tap the Zwanze at the specified time all are supposed to tap it. Overall bad experience.
     
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  19. sandman3479

    sandman3479 Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2006 Connecticut

    Fingers crossed. I'm a little worried about the pricing.
     
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  20. sdaly3

    sdaly3 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2009 New Hampshire

    My type of event, the perfect amount of people, plenty of beer to go around and prices on certain beers that people can't complain about. Hopefully I can win the lottery again next year.
     
  21. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    Thought some of the bottle prices were a little much but that was a pretty sweet fest. So happy I got to attend
     
  22. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    What were they charging for bottles?
     
  23. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,218) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Lottery sucks
     
  24. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (1,897) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Demand massively outpaces supply. What's the better choice? Mad online scramble at noon on a random day sucks just even more.
     
  25. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    So does showing up hoping for the best. Years back that was fine. Cantillon's cult following has been infiltrated by the rare chasers. It makes events like these harder to navigate.

    Lottery rules.
     
  26. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (1,897) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Beats paying for scratch off tickets. Still pissed at Portsmouth for that nonsense.
     
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  27. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    $30 for 375 rose/ kriek

    $60 for spon/ A & G

    Roughly
     
  28. soheadyithurts

    soheadyithurts Zealot (515) Jan 4, 2013 Massachusetts

    Nice to see Lord Hobo zwanze day prices still live on. $75 for a 750ml of Fou. Thanks Danny
     
  29. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Yikes. That's awful. Paid $25 for a 750 of Vig and $16 for a 350 of rose tonight. No zwanze no prob. Trill is really pushing it with pricing across the board.
     
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  30. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,218) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Nah, at least that way you know right away if you got a ticket. Having to wait for 3 days only to find out your a loser sucks
     
  31. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    That being said most of the draft prices were pretty good. $8/9 for st lam, vig , st gilloise etc...

    Trillium beers were any anywhere from $3 - $10
     
  32. JCTetreault

    JCTetreault Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2008 Massachusetts

    thought I'd chime in quick...we did a bit of diligence about how to do mark up from wholesale pricing as this isn't something we're super familiar with. so we landed at prices on par if not lower than other shops that are lucky enough to be able to pour these special beers. aside from the general shittiness of taking advantage of lambic enthusiasts like that, we expect the van roy family and shelton folks would be pretty disheartened to see the intention of spirit of zwanze stomped on by doing something like that. clearly lambic is going to be pretty expensive...and we didn't shout about it through our ticket sale process or during the day, but we take the incredible enthusiasm for this stuff and amplify it in to something more impactful; we have proceeds from the event going to Family Reach, an organization that helps families experiencing financial distress due to cancer http://familyreach.org/our-mission/
     
  33. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,218) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    A bit more: having demand outstrip supply is not a unique problem. Happens frequently in sports, music, Broadway, etc. But very rarely (never?) Do you see public lottery as the only mechanism for getting tickets.

    Better than pure lottery would be a Golden ticket like method which awards customers a chance to win. You can take that in many ways which gives preference (or not) to frequent brewery visitors. As least this way you know you're giving tickets to frequent customers. This is why Super Bowl tickets are awarded by lottery only to season ticket holders, and then weighted by tenure. Reward your best customers

    But, open lottery to anyone is the worst of all world's.
     
  34. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    Hope I didn't come off as complaining. Maybe I should have stated it was a little high for me.

    Awesome people, staff, beer and atmosphere. So happy that I got to visit from NY. Won't soon forget yesterday. Thanks so much for having us!!!

    P.s the only non lambic beer I consumed yesterday was the experimental hop perm #22. If you ever can or bottle that I'll be making the trip again!
     
  35. juliolugo

    juliolugo Crusader (499) Jun 22, 2015 Massachusetts

    I respect your opinion, but totally disagree. I strongly prefer the open lottery system (perhaps even deprioritizing attendees from the previous year to allow new people to participate) to any other system and consider it the most fair, and it's not even close. It's also the simplest system to manage for Trillium.

    From a business perspective, the only reason to prioritize frequent buyers would be to either increase revenue from those customers (because they feel Trillium has rewarded their patronage) or mitigate loss of revenue from those customers (because they feel Trillium hasn't rewarded their patronage). I just don't see either of those being big enough factors to cause Trillium to take on the additional overhead of a more complicated ticketing system.
     
  36. dmolz

    dmolz Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2014 Connecticut

    were the glasses for sale besides the event itself after?
     
  37. Phreeballing

    Phreeballing Zealot (709) Sep 19, 2015 New York
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    Not sure, crazy I saw people just putting them down and leaving without them. I have a few
     
  38. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (1,897) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Assuming you were at your computer at a precise time on a random day. Life happens and most people can't rearrange it to buy beer tickets. That system is the least fair. Giving everyone sufficient time to enter and then randomly selecting winners is fair. It just is. If Trillium wants to hold a few slots for its best customers and long time supporters, more power to them. Maybe they did.
     
  39. Rysk22

    Rysk22 Savant (1,216) Nov 12, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I believe last year they were
     
  40. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    This too shall pass, my child.
     
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