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Release Tröegs - The Mad Elf Grand Cru

Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by jmdrpi, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Looks like 11% abv, 750ml bottles, and distributed to Troeg's full distribution footprint.
     
  2. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (52) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Damn! Sounds like a perfect Christmas beer. Too bad we don't get their stuff in these parts.
     
  3. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, North Carolina is the furthest south:

     
  4. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,197) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Yeah and I'm not sure they have full coverage of those states yet. Less than a year ago I was in Blacksburg, VA. They have the Vintage Cellar there (one of the outstanding VA bottle shops). In a chat with the manager, as I was checking out with some stuff not easily found around here, I learned that they were soon to have a public tasting session with the Troeg's rep and there were already some discussions going about which beers and how many cases.
     
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  5. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (130) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    I may have to give this a try, I usually bring Mad Elf to the Christmas Tree party I attend maybe this one goes with me this year.
     
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  6. seth27

    seth27 Initiate (155) Mar 16, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    So is this basically just regular Mad Elf but like 1% abv higher and bottle conditioned or am I missing something?
     
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  7. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,197) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Typically Grand Cru is used to describe something unique or special. Compare the description of the ingredients above with the regular Mad Elf and you'll find that there are a few other differences between the regular and the Grand Cru versions.
     
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  8. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (8,881) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I hope it has more cherries in it. Any sightings in PA or NJ? I haven't seen it yet.
     
  9. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    The post from Troegs said "In early November".

    Same ABV. The Troegs sell-sheet for Mad Elf lists the cherry varieties as Bing, Lambert, Van, Royal Anne, and Monmarte. Those are all sweet cherry varieties except for the last one (appears to be a typo, should be Montmorency?)

    The sheet for Grand Cru says it uses the same cherries as Mad Elf, plus a lot more tart cherries of the Balaton variety. Plus the raw sugar.

    http://www.troegs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sellsheet_Individual_MadElf.pdf
    http://www.troegs.com/asset/sellsheet-mad-elf-grand-cru/
     
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  10. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (8,881) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    Well the additional tartness should be interesting, and probably lead to a better balance but we'll see.
     
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  11. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I think Mad Elf is better after a year of cellaring that seems to dry out the sweetness a bit. Maybe this Grand Cru will taste similar.
     
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  12. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Devotee (437) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Just drank a bunch of Mad Elf at a wedding reception this weekend (for the first time in years) and would agree with this assessment.
     
  13. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (8,881) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    So since this is out there, does anyone else think that the Mad Elf used to have more cherry to it? And I don't mean recently, it might go way back. I remember Chris Trogner having a growler at the Grey Lodge one night that had much more cherry to it than it has now - no idea what year that was but it was soon after it was introduced, if not the first time.
     
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  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Devotee (437) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    After not having it for years, that was my first impression on Saturday. "This doesn't have as much cherry as I remember."
     
  15. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (8,881) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    Hmmmm. It used to be my wife's favorite beer but she seems to think it's lost cherry over the past 4 years or so and she actually gave away the sixer she bought this year after having only one or two.
     
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  16. onthebusin03

    onthebusin03 Initiate (139) Jan 11, 2008 Pennsylvania

    It has been a totally varied run over the years as far as my relationship with that beer (original Mad Elf). Hated it early on > started getting back into it > didn't drink it for a year or two > really enjoyed it the past two years > this year, have had it just once.... didn't care for it. Seemed like a sweet gloppy quad with little to zero cherry.

    Could be all me, I guess. Or could be a bit of me and a bit of the beer.

    This release screams for a side by side, though. I'll pick one or more up if the price isn't outrageous.
     
  17. HoppingMadMonk

    HoppingMadMonk Defender (612) Mar 3, 2017 New Jersey
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    First time I've had it,seemed a bit thin and light on the cherry flavor. Still decent and was impressed by how well the high abv was hidden. I consider it to be good,maybe very good,but not great[​IMG]
     
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  18. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Ugh, I still hate how the new label looks like a drunk egg-headed baby. Gotta be the worse of the re-designs.

    Glad it is diminished on the Grand Cru label.
     
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  19. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Update on release date - November 6th:

     
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  20. Bchlver

    Bchlver Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Bought it today at Wegmans in Mechanicsburg/Silver Spring shopping center
     
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  21. onthebusin03

    onthebusin03 Initiate (139) Jan 11, 2008 Pennsylvania

    What was the price on it at Wegmans? Breski has it for $13.99/bottle. Usually Wegmans is a buck or three cheaper.
     
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  22. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Initiate (126) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Lol
     
  23. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Meyvn (1,297) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Cane here to say this. "Grand cru" to me is another way of saying "best of" in wine i believe grand cru region of the vineyard is the best humanly possible section of the land for growing comparer to others on the property
     
  24. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Initiate (126) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    From my "sources", this beer is one you don't want to miss. I have not tried it, but plan on getting a bottle or 2.
     
  25. onthebusin03

    onthebusin03 Initiate (139) Jan 11, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Not accurate in your experience?
     
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  26. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Initiate (126) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Very accurate. That's why I put lol.
     
  27. rudiecantfail

    rudiecantfail Initiate (156) Aug 9, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Picked up some regular Mad Elf at Wegman's, but didn't see the Grand Cru. I'm sad.
     
  28. Crumps_Brother

    Crumps_Brother Initiate (130) Jun 24, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    checked a couple of Weis grocery store sections for Grand Cru version but didn't see any

    checked the distributor in town yesterday and they had a spot for it on the shelf but it was empty

    the owner texted me later to let me know they had some that he was holding back so it didn't disappear over the weekend while he was gone

    in his word, it's "super limited"

    i live about 60 miles north of the brewery for what it's worth

    the first post led me to believe this would be more easily obtainable
     
  29. Giantspace

    Giantspace Defender (632) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania


    Does he not want to sell it? Why does it matter when it sells. If he wants a few for himself just have the staff hold back a few.

    Enjoy
     
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  30. ESHBG

    ESHBG Aspirant (223) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    That's what I like about it and every time I see it I laugh :slight_smile:
     
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  31. Crumps_Brother

    Crumps_Brother Initiate (130) Jun 24, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    my assumption is he held a few back for regulars or preferred customers of sorts to get it since they didn't get much in
     
  32. BenBreeg

    BenBreeg Crusader (789) Mar 18, 2014 Belgium
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    This one's on my bucket list ! Hope to get one in a trade...
     
  33. cser

    cser Initiate (29) Feb 12, 2015 Pennsylvania

    $12.99 a bottle at a distributor in York.
     
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  34. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Initiate (126) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Wilkes-Barre or close to it? Apparently the brewery store is flying through it.
     
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  35. TheCrimsonKing

    TheCrimsonKing Aspirant (224) Jul 28, 2017 Ohio
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    Our distributor didn't even mention it to us as he hadn't even received it in his inventory yet. I'm hoping we get a few bottles.
     
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  36. Crumps_Brother

    Crumps_Brother Initiate (130) Jun 24, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Northumberland, just a little outside of Selinsgrove for reference
     
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  37. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Initiate (126) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Very cool. I am assuming you are very familiar with Selins Grove and Rusty Rail quite a bit.
     
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  38. EricThompson

    EricThompson Initiate (124) Apr 8, 2016 Pennsylvania
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    Picked up 3 bottles at Bounds in PA. They have a few cases.
     
  39. Crumps_Brother

    Crumps_Brother Initiate (130) Jun 24, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    More so Selins Grove

    Going there is really what sparked my interest in craft and micro brews

    It takes a good half hour to get to Mifflinburg from my house so I don't get out to Rusty Rail too much
     
  40. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Initiate (126) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Got my bottle! Will most likely crack it open next Wednesday or Thursday.
     
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